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How did a thread about battering become a debate about linguistics?   ​


There is no one American accent
http://accent.gmu.edu/browse_maps/namerica.php

Or English accent
http://accent.gmu.edu/browse_maps/europe.php

And yeah Christian Bale was under stress, but he's a successful, working actor, doing a job that he loves and even if he weren't that's no excuse to beat up his mom.
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That's a really sexist ad. Kind of ironic..."respect animals but don't respect women."

I really want some broccoli now.
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I just found this documentary:

If you go here and look in related videos you can see an option to watch the full film.

I'm not sure if geoblocking will let you watch it outside of Canada, though.






Sorry canada but claiming ownership of ice just seems kind of silly....

1. How could the United State "veto" you using what is currently considered native canadian waters. Typical anti-america bullshit I have to listen to all the time. If Canada had the resources to spare and wanted to patrol the passage, there is nothing the US could do to stop them.

2. How reputable are the sources claiming US subs were using the passage? We spend like 8 billion dollars on each sub to make sure that noone can detect them. So the idea that we would pop up and flip you off so that you know we are there seems proposterous.

3. If in fact making the passage international waters attracted any sort of piracy or smuggling it would not be the Candadian government who would  clean it up. The United States Navy battles pirates, smugglers, and cartel ships across the entire world, if this passage is really that important we will do so there as well.

4. The claim that the people living in the artic are endangered is bullshit. How many people live in the arctic circle? Less than 1 person per square mile. Something tells me the international community wont feel any repercussions of that.
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1. The United States didn't veto us posessing the waters...sorry but you misread. They vetoed us purchasing subs to patrol the waters, and then complained we don't have the military strength to protect the arctic.

2.  I just found this document online. Sorry, I was mistaken I thought it was subs found, but it was two American ships. Canada believes there were U.S. subs in the arctic in a particlar incident, however, the U.S. denies this and it hasn't been resolved.

"...Two voyages by the U.S. tanker S.S. Manhattan in 1969-1970 and the U.S. icebreaker CGS Polar Sea in 1985 highlighted the issue of Canada’s sovereign control over its Arctic territory and stirred public debate.  In 1970, the Canadian government enacted the Arctic Waters Pollution Prevention Act, which asserts Canadian regulatory control over pollution within a 100-mile zone.  In response, a U.S. foreign relations document from 1970 stated, “We cannot accept the assertion of a Canadian claim that the Arctic waters are internal waters of Canada. … Such acceptance would jeopardize the freedom of navigation essential for United States naval activities worldwide.”

(Full Document Here)


3. This is a good point, however, I don't think many Canadians would be happy about the U.S. having a military prescence to the south AND to the north. To try to understand- ow would the U.S. feel about a Russian prescence to the direct north and south of them? Technically they're allies, but there is a lot of resentment.

4. Native people have lived there for thousands of years, and have remained largely protected and isolated. Whether there are few people are not, they are still people who will have a difficult to impossible time relocating to anywhere else.


Yes, the Maple Leaf shall send chills down our enemies spines!!!

For a second I thought you said the "Maple Leafs" as in the hockey team. Stanley Cup this year? :( Don't think so... :( I've lost my faith.
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Weird, I've never even considered this, but yeah... it's ours... but then again... it's ICE. I couldn't care less personally.

I can understand why you (and others) might think that, but our country's known for its natural beauty and even if it's ice, don't you think we should try to preserve it? It's also wildlife, and there are native people living up north as well who would be affected by unregulated transit through the passage. Plus anyone who comes illegally through the passage would end up in Canada- gun smuggling, drug trafficking could become  harder to impossible to monitor.
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I think the only one added me on facebook is strangeluv...I heard he has everyone on his facebook so maybe he'd be the best one to make a group if people wanted one.
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except that's not a choice they have to make! it's not "you can either be pro-choice or pro-death penalty" they can be pro life and still against the death penalty. the people who argue that they'd rather kill a murderer than a fetus are making a stupid argument because they don't have to do either.


Right it's a bad argument, but it's one of the strongest ones that they have. I'm not trying to argue for them, I'm trying to show what their sort of mindset must be like. That's why I mentioned the irony of it still (that they are willing to kill  one person but advocate for the life of another). No one is forcing them to make that decision, so it's simply unfounded that they should make that argument.
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Velfarre, I referred just to him because he was doing it constantly in the university thread, involving swearing and name calling, and Omcifer hasn't.

Coxwain- I didn't mean to imply that abortion was killing babies- I was trying to phrase it from the POV from someone who would be in that situation (pro-life and pro-capital punishment) since someone who is pro-life will probably think of it as killing babies. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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...Peta....we're making some changes.
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Huh? I think you guys are misunderstanding- I'm against the death penalty. It's because people were commenting on how people can be anti-abortion but be for the death penalty. I was playing the devil's advocate and saying if one HAD to choose one, they'd probably pick to not kill the baby, so you can sort of understand the person's logic. But I still think it's ironic that one can be pro-life and for the death penalty at the same time.

Omcifer- I'm not sure what you're upset about. Is it that I referred to fetuses as babies?

And magical n, I'm getting really tired of your personal attacks. If there's anything which points out a bad argument, it's one person constantly flinging insults at the other person rather than actually looking at their arguments. I get the feeling you're really just trying to start something for the sake of starting something, so I'm not going to help you occupy your time any further by responding to you.
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Well, granted, if I was one of those people and was forced to choose between "killing" a baby, and a convicted serial killer, I'd probably pick the latter...

:-/

But it is pretty ironic actually.
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Duhhh...Chun Li was always white- just like Goku.
Come on can't you tell by their names?



(Seriously being an Asian actor sucks).
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Ok sure! I was just trying to suggest some things to talk about. I can erase those ^_~.

EDIT: done! I just put in my opinion.

To be fair, I'm not trying to copy and paste every bit of Canadian news...I realized after the university strike and coalition government thread that there are a lot of canadians on GW and our news and issues don't always get addressed in most mainstream international communities, so I thought I'd take an initiative to try to talk about things which are important to Canadians but also important to others internationally. ^_^ I see your point in concern, though!

(Also forgive my style of making topics, but it's how I'm used to doing it at debating clubs, I will try others).
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Briefly...
 
(keep in mind I go to a Canadian university and have heard about this issue from a largely Canadian perspective which is likely to be biased about this issue).


-This is about the area/passage of the arctic which lies closest to Canada
-The northwest passage was originally British territory but was given to Canada. At the time it was believed to be useless territory
-Global warming has caused the ice bergs to melt. In the near future, the northwest passage will be the fastest route between northern Eurasia and North America, opening up endless trade and tourist possibilities
-Canada maintains its sovereignty over the Northwest Passage, however, other countries (such as the U.S. and Russia) claim that it is international territory and no longer (and never did) belong to Canada.
-Most likely it will become international territory
-The U.S. has continually sent naval vessels through the Northwest Passage, causing anger from Canadian Media/Citizens when they argued that they did not need to seek permission from the Canadian Coast Guard.




Some International Strait Arguments
-Britain never had the right to give Canada the northwest passage in the first place
-One cannot claim sovereignty over icy areas as they're essentially water
-Without military presence Canada cannot claim sovereignty.
-The Canadian military is unable to protect the arctic waters anyway, so regardless of whether they maintain their sovereignty or not, international dangers in the area will remain the same.
-With Canadian sovereignty in place, the U.S. would be in less of a position to protect themselves against Russia.

Some Canadian Arguments
-The northwest passage indisputably belonged to Canada until it became of use to other countries, after which their minds were suddenly changed.
-At its narrowest point, the passage is less than twelve nautical miles wide, making at least that portion of it indisputably Canadian.
-Any oil spills or accidents would have to be cleaned by Canadian services
-The native people who live in the arctic are Canadian, and any damages made to their home can't be protected by the Canadian government if they don't maintain their sovereignty.
-If it's made an international strait, Canada will not be able to maintain the cleanliness and quality of its arctic water, envirionment, or wildlife.
-Canada did make an effort to place better military prescence in the arctic, but their appeal for subs was vetoed by the United States.
-The northwest passage can open up increased smuggling, piracy, and terrorist activity which Canada will have a harder time protecting itself against if they cannot maintain their sovereignty and prescence in the arctic.



I'm aware of the lop-sidedness of the arguments presented, but like I said I go to a Canadian university and read largely Canadian articles, which is also why I'm opening this up to debate to see what everyone's opinions are on the subject, and other arguments (if you have them).




Arctic Map



The Northwest Passage
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Medical News Today

Avian flu has fallen largely under the radar since it was the centre of widespread attention in 2005, but now it has emerged in a turkey farm in southern B.C. Examiners aren't too worried since they say that this is not really a deadly strain. However, it does raise some questions-



Some thoughts...
Personally, I find that the avian flu prescence in North America is a reminder of our need as a global player to take part and maintain our medical and preventetive standards to preserve lives around the world, and that even three years after it was seen as a major cause for concern it's stiil an extremely potent threat. If not this specific disease, then others like it. It could be a global pandemic because it's impossible to control birds and flight patterns...while it does seem to emerge mostly in domestic and non-flying birds, however, I do think it's possible for us to prevent teh disease's spread by imposing international inspection laws on all poultry.
I do not believe our international health systems are ready, as most are largely concerned with their own country, which, while effective, will ignore a good portion of the world that does not have teh same finances or medical advances to maintain their peoples' health. The result will be teh disease existing in certain parts of the world and continually spreading to otehr parts, overloading the stabler systems.
On the flipside, a global pandemic would force international leaders and palyers to consider more thoroughly the prescence of global trade, economy, prescence, and medical relations. Now, more than ever, when telecommunications and transportation bring the world closer together, we must learn to work together internationally in order to assure our own survival.
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(this isn't to say I agree with the death penalty because I don't)

But as to the people saying China's being barbaric for having the death penalty, doesn't the U.S. also have capital punishment? Not as frequent but they still do it. So it's not only a "western" assault then on China (in this thread) since capital punishment is in practice also in the west.
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They could still strike illegally, engage in work stoppage/walkouts, or rally students to occupy facilities.

I know for damn sure that if I was one of the TAs I'd be looking for ways to organize and stir shit up after being fucked by the state like that.


TBH, I don't know if most York students would rally to occupy facilities for the TAs :-/
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Just cause this seems to be a lot about the death penalty now- what do you guys think about cases like Paul Bernardo? Do you think it'd still be unwarranted?
(FYI for non-Canadians: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bernardo )
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(Thanks Mark)



Can we get screencaps?

The editor is at someone else's house but I can see...since we're not shooting I haven't been to his house for a while. The reason why it's like this- I have a laptop and windows movie maker, and he has 3 terabytes of space on his PC and adobe premiere +after effects. Next time I go over I"ll get some screen caps. Right now the only one I have saved is just me in it and I don't want to just post that XD.


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We started it...but we had to wrap up production cause we were shooting in one of the Parklands and it being Canada the leaves died and changed so we couldn't film anymore (plus the cold). Are you from TO? We're going to need some extras later on in the summer if you'd be interested! Send me a PM.


As to how far along- we have all the costumes and weapons made, the scripts finalized, and some of the scenes down on camera. But it's gonna be a loooong summer! I think it's gonna be great (or as great as you can make on 6 people working minimum wage jobs and going to school lol)
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Just an update (I'm aware this is old but I don't want to start a new thread)- this will be delayed longer...


(expl: if you feel like reading)
5 of the 7 principals and 2 of 3 crew members go to York University and because of a strike situation that was just settled they'll be in class until June (we were supposed to resume in April). Hold in there, though, we're still working! Just a...minor(major) setback.