remember your myspace?

is there seriously a porno site called "xhamster"???

Hiretsukan, the guy who was making Fury², worked on Guild Wars and other stuff.

i know a few people in and around the industry, the guy who taught me data stuctures/C was involved with making the xbox360, one of my close friends is always working contract gigs for game studios(SOCOM 4 was his last credit on console software) and another is doing graphic/web design in the Xbox division at MS... you're in seattle right? it's pretty hard not to bump in to someone who's in that racket 'round here, a few weeks ago I was talking with some dude at a bar who worked for Zynga and was trying to convince me that the company isn't simply a shady data-mining operation.

Depends on the kind of work you're looking for. A lot of transplants that I know are working for tech companies that basically had their move paid for by the company that hired them(Amazon, eBay, Google, etc.) and they got put up at company digs for a while to get settled. Most people who I know moved because they got hired by some specific company rather than chose the city first. So I'd start by picking whatever company you'd want to work at and look at where they've got offices or you could go to places like indeed.com and look at the kind of job openings are available in your desired city.

14/88 white pride worldwide

lol

ugh god this makes me nauseous. everything sucks, just realize that, feel free to enjoy it who cares im gonna watch youtube videos of people pretending to pee in front of cops

Well, I'm posting on the web so I think that falls within the realm of "talking with ebuds"... I'm a little more diplomatic talking to people face-to-face but whatever, but I'm not standing on a soapbox and I can be flippant on here and not care as much. I'm not causing any harm aside from being a little dismissive of things I disagree with on Saltw.net's forums. I'm not sure if I follow what you mean by "replecating the language used by proponents of oppression", but like I said I'm not so invested in this respect. You're right that I do think it's cute to be dismissive in a way that provokes angry responses or whatever, it's cathartic, but I'm not being a 'proponent of oppression' by any stretch of the imagination(well maybe it you want to stretch it into being "epistemologically oppressive" but then we're wading even further into the academic swamp of subaltern discourse). If that's where you have a problem then maybe we don't share the same sense of humor, at least be upfront about it being beside the point. I don't really care what people's intentions are cuz it's just a plea for acknowledgement, for people to 'think right', and that ain't my grumpy marxist bag.
 
I think what differentiates a platitude/pseudo-critique is that critique questions the object while a pseudo-critique assumes it as premise and in doing so precludes actual criticism. These pseudo-criticisms are actually recuperated and end up reinforcing the state of affairs in very real ways. Unions 'sit at the table' and are actively involved in the process of cutting salaries/benefits and laying people off, women and homosexuals now get the chance to kill and die on the front lines of wars, now we have multiracial cops and prison guards, etc. Great... Lets have a universally fair and unoffensive representation of everyone to be consumed as images holding our attentions between viagra and tampon commercials.

Quote from: Barack Obama on April 02, 2013, 07:23:43 pm

i don't think you're "unfairly calling me out" and i'm not flashing any badges, this isn't about me in spite of how much you would like to make it about me. I'm not making fun of the complaints(the example i used was simply the furthest away from the "GIRLS in NYC" premise I could think of) and I'm not abusing anyone aside from suggesting that the line of reasoning is a dead-end. I mean if you have a point about why it is serious critique rather than desire for accommodation, then make it.

again I don't think you're getting my point. I've deliberately not said anything on whether you are right or wrong to call it a desire for accommodation or a critique because it's not what I'm talking about at all. the line you added in your edit just now, however, was what I was looking for:

Quote from: Barack Obama on April 02, 2013, 07:23:43 pm

>seriously though, i'm not a big fan of identity politics or the academic post-structuralist liberalism which gave rise to them and I'm not-so-subtly invoking existing critique of "intersectional" analysis with statements like that.

whether you are a fan of it or not, I hope you'll at least agree there are a lot of well-intentioned people active in those circles today. I don't see why you have to take and misuse their language specifically to get a rise out of them. you can't not expect that that's what's gonna happen if you do that. you do this and then you claim "well, but you're wrong to call me out, I've got legitimate criticisms of them too" as if that makes it all right.

again, if you have real, legitimate criticisms, make 'em. that last thing I quoted at least has substance. you don't really expect everyone here to roll their eyes and grin when you sarcastically talk about "checking your privilege", do you? that's not criticism, that's just you flippantly making fun of other leftists you don't like. and I don't think that's helpful.

Quote from: Barack Obama on April 02, 2013, 07:23:43 pm

what it comes down to is that you're just hopelessly moralizing. "The media ought to be representative." Is just a platitude divorced from any serious assessment of the structure, origin, history, and function of the media as it exists today. A platitude that comes from more or less valid concerns, but a platitude nonetheless.

you say you don't like identity politics, but identity does exist and I think identity is still a valid concept. I don't think it necessarily interferes with preexisting ideas about, say, class. it's true that when we talk about representation in context of the mass media, we're sort of conceding its function as a means of propaganda and social control. but I don't think doing that serves to validate that function. I don't think saying that mass media ought to be representative is the same thing as saying "the media is fine but it needs more PoC". I said, everyone I know of who makes this complaint also realizes its limitations, and that the problem goes beyond something so simple as representation. as you yourself have said, the concerns themselves are valid.

I did make a critique. see the conversation prior to your addition to it. I'm not saying that anyone is "wrong" to call me out and I don't really give a fuck how well-intentioned people are; I don't feel obligated to placate every disagreement I have with "they're good people with their hearts in the right place" Sorry, not interested in that the most you'll get is an acknowledgement that the concerns are valid. If that makes me insensitive or kind of a dick, so be it. Why not discuss the point I made rather than deliberately avoiding it to take shots at me personally or my tone?  

re: media
again, you're not getting past platitudes. The mass media as it exists today can't and won't be equally representative and even if it could, I'd question if that's really how it "ought" to be. Again, it's a pseudo-critique, it has the form sans the content of an actual critique of the media. The line of argumentation ends in a request for an equal-opportunity spectacle, a desire for universal accommodation in the community of capital... is that what "ought" to be?

Quote from: Barack Obama on April 02, 2013, 06:01:06 pm

because it's something i made up dada, jesus fucking christ, I thought that was pretty clear. but if there's any asexually-queer afro-pagans having a hard time with oppressive colonial ontologies that are reading this out there then my sincere apologies i'll check my privilege in that regard from now on.

oh, I got your point, and I got the fact that your example was fictitious. ironically, you don't seem to have gotten my point. my point is: you don't get to flash your supposed revolutionary credentials like a police badge to justify making fun of legitimate complaints, whether or not you think they're just radical poseurs. you don't mimic the abuse they get hurled at them by the status quo for daring to speak out on issues like representation for the sake of what you deem a more useful critique. and you're doing exactly the same thing, making fun of the language, in the same breath that you use to complain about being unfairly called out by me.

to do that sort of thing is imo harmful and divisive, and I think it's obvious that it would be. it helps no one.

 
i don't think you're "unfairly calling me out" and i'm not flashing any badges, this isn't about me in spite of how much you would like to make it about me. I'm not making fun of the complaints(the example i used was simply the furthest away from the "GIRLS in NYC" premise I could think of) and I'm not abusing anyone aside from suggesting that the line of reasoning is a dead-end. I mean if you have a point about why it is serious critique rather than desire for accommodation, then make it. 
 
what it comes down to is that you're just hopelessly moralizing. "The media ought to be representative." Is just a platitude divorced from any serious assessment of the structure, origin, history, and function of the media as it exists today. A platitude that comes from more or less valid concerns, but a platitude nonetheless.

because it's something i made up dada, jesus fucking christ, I thought that was pretty clear. but if there's any asexually-queer afro-pagans having a hard time with oppressive colonial ontologies that are reading this out there then my sincere apologies i'll check my privilege and consult my Oppression-Metric in that regard from now on. seriously though, i'm not a big fan of identity politics or the academic post-structuralist liberalism which gave rise to them and I'm not-so-subtly invoking existing critique of "intersectional" analysis with statements like that.

if you'd bother to follow my point i more or less said that such concerns are valid, but it's more of a plea for accommodation(a desire for HBO to repackage and sell an image of their own life experience and identity back to them) than critique and shouldn't be confused as such.

"keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer" evaluate

There's no such thing as friends.

yeah maybe so. idk, something about that sort of sweeping Yeah But Who Cares type of argument deals with dissent a little too tidily for me sometimes

well it's just that I kinda see it as a pseudo-critique. what if everyone was equally and fairly represented in the media? we'd all be unoffended while passively consuming images that condition and represent our roles and identities. neat, an equal-opportunity spectacle.

frankly i'm more comfortable with people just enjoying it than the 'cultural critics' objections of "nope! not real enough, too much white traditionally-abled cis-female-assigned persyns, doesn't intersect enough with asexually-queer afro-pagan discourse with oppressive colonial ontology." There's a point where it all becomes more of a veiled plea for accommodation with a radical posture rather than actual critique; and that's valid i guess but i wouldnt really call it dissent.

PUUUUUUKE

~the revolution will not be televised~

Part of why the show is funny is the response it gets from people. I mean the actual content is pretty boring for all the reasons that've been listed, but it's interesting how much flak it's caught over not being 'representative' enough by people who are about as boring as the show itself.

Do we really want 'representative' television shows? To me, most of the criticism sounds like people whining about the fact that HBO isn't reifying their own life experience and selling it back to them. "I want to consume images of myself!!!"

I'd be horrified if I actually identified with anything on television besides the perps on COPS

I say jump in if you have the time. If you can make something halfway decent and get it out by the year's end you'll probably get on some top-20 lists and make quite a bit.

One problem that I do see is that it's pretty much hands-off on Ouya's end in terms of keeping track of who bought what so they're just there to pair you up with the customers, the payment API doc basically says 'keep track of your receipts, cuz who knows what could happen, they're your customers.' lol

As a potential purchaser of the console, it's certainly something I plan to have. Particularly as it is the only console in my price-range and I like TV games. My scepticism / grumblyness is as a possible maker of games for the thing. Better than the costs and processes for existing consoles though.

I don't think the actual development of games for it will be much of a problem at all, seems like there's a lot of work being put lowering the barrier to entry and letting people at the hardware of the system, Nvidia has also done a lot to make the Tegra platform attractive for game developers. I don't think Android will really get in your way at all. The only issue I really see with this is actually getting people to buy the stuff you make for it, but that's a big problem with just about any platform you develop for. People are probably a little wary of Ouya right now because it's new and nobody really knows how much money to expect from it.

I think they're pretty open about letting people root these things so people can make their own android distros for it and putting the Google Play Store on there would be pretty trivial... So it seems like this thing could(probably already does) have the library of the android store on there. 
 
idk android is basically like any other OS but heavily dependent on a big old Java VM runtime, plus it's compatible with a ton of peripherals & software, seems like this thing could be a neat low-power HTPC/game console replacement.   

I don't really know much about the Ouya, maybe someone can fill me in, but isn't it so that most of the Android games/apps are built for touch interfaces and don't necessarily translate very well to the controller paradigm?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouya

I mean, there's a lot of android/iOS games that don't really translate well to touch+accelerometer either, so i think the 'controller games' will likely find their way to this platform.