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I'm so pimped up for this game. It looks like it's going to be everything I hoped it to be, and even more! I'm not even bothered by the graphics, I think they look fine and people need to shut up about such trivial things.
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

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Welcome to gw beahball.
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

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Chaning nicks all the time.

I hate this.

This pisses me off.

I dislike this.
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

so wrong...
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Prog can be experimental and experimental can be prog, there is no definite rule for it. Symphonic prog rock WAS experimental when it first came out, not so much anymore. Why are we arguing about this again?

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Here's a cool video of The Tangent performing "Lost in London".

<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

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Generally musicians don't know politics any better than your standard Joe. It's a problem because their fans will obviously think they "know better" and maybe even adopt their views without understanding any of it themselves. It's dangerous to have people with way too much influence compared to their knowledge in any field.

No, I don't think it's a good thing to think that bands have a responsibility to be political. Personally, I don't mind politics in songs because I generally pay a little attention to the lyrics.
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

so wrong...
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dp knows fuck all about punk rock though and if there's one argument more tired than PROG MORE LIKE BORING TECH WANKERY it's PUNK IS LOUD.

That's pretty much it, I don't know anything about punk except that I don't like it.  Besides, if I were to post "I don't like punk here are 4 long paragraphs why" the post would have zero value to anyone who's into punk. No one will gain anything from me doing that and people will just be annoyed because "heh... HEH... well I DON'T like punk... it's loud and simple heh..." it makes me look like a jackass.

Just like you've shitted this topic up. I first read it hoping to maybe discover some cool new bands, discuss some prog and have a good time. But besides the inital article all I got are 2 pages of replies "prog is not good... heh... i know better,,,, ´heh you're music has no value". It's fucking irritating, you've made it very clear you don't like prog, now go post about proto-punk or something.
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

so wrong...
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first, you didn't say imo, you said it as if it were to be a fact

It was - quite obviously - my opinion. First of all, unlike some others in this forum, I don't really consider myself as any kind of an final authority in music. Second, I hope I don't need to add an IMO to the end of my every sentence. If I'm going to post facts, I'm also going to give you links and proof. Not the other way around.

And I already pointed out I can make a huge list of non-prog bands that are fantastic, so thanks for your omissive attitude

And I can make a list of prog bands that are better than any band in your list, what's your point? (also my dad is stronger than yours)

You should.

I'm still not going to.

edit: Oh yeah this is all IMO just to be sure
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

so wrong...
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what the hell does this mean?

It means that most prog rock bands sound better than most non-prog rock bands. I don't think I need to emphasize it, but IMO anyway.

If we're comparing genres to books, I'd say prog is no specific type of book. The first chapter might be fantasy, but suddenly it turns into a gut-wrenching detective story. But what's this, just as the villain was about to get caught... we're in the middle of an encyclopedia! After a few words have been explained, it goes on and takes the form of an autobiography.

My point being - I love prog because you never know what's gonna happen in the songs. It's full of surprises, twists and (this is the keyword) NOT BORING AND REPETITIVE. Now, I totally agree that prog is pretentious, bloated and at times meandering. That's just a part of the genre just as primitive, raw and simple can be used to describe punk (I'm not saying all punk fits those 3 words just as not all prog is pretentious - but most is). I like pretentious, over-ambitious, cheesy and artistic music, but that's just me.

Now excuse me while I visit the punk topic and loudly declare my distaste for that specific genre. (im not really going to)
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

so wrong...
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Can someone tell me how the term "shoegaze" got coined? I mean I can understand neo-classical trip-acid beats, but jesus...
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<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

so wrong...
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Saying whahay at everything and everyone. Oh wait I'm still living 5 years in the past...

I'd say many members of GW have the talent of being really obnoxious and likeable at the same time. I'm not sure how much of a GWism that is instead of just being the result of this environment, but it's definitely noticeable.
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

so wrong...
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my issue with prog rock is that just like metal they think they are so epic, virtuosos, so elaborate, so much *waves hands over head* it ends up ridiculpously pretentious and boring

and still they manage to sound better than most other rock bands out there, whahay!

I've listened to some Magma earlier (I think the album was MDK), but I'm gonna give some of these bands a shot.
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

so wrong...
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What dude no I feel terrible now, i didn't mean it this way.  :fogetsad: You ain't invading, its just a HEADS UP I PLAN ON WRITING THESE FOLLOWING ARTICLES SO DON'T TAKE THEM! sort of thing. By all means though, lets collaborate on modern symphonic.

Haha, no need to feel bad. I don't know that much about classic prog you see. I do have some albums by the bands you wrote about in this thread, but other than that, my knowledge of them is very limited. I guess I'm more of a new-prog/progmetal kind of guy? That said, I don't even know what Zeuhl is, so I'm waiting forward to your article. :fogetsmile:
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

so wrong...
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Well, I didn't write about Tull, KC, Rush, or Floyd because they aren't symphonic prog.

Oops :fogetshh:

I actually really don't consider them prog anymore, but that's a debate for another day?

Yeah I'm not gonna touch one with a 10ft pole.

I really would like to have been the one and only progressive rock scholar on GW

I didn't mean to invade on your turf, I probably won't have time to write an article anyway. I could help you to write the article on modern symphonic if you want to, just give me a call.
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

so wrong...
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ok gang

Erave is back in business and taking over the management of CG4 for at least a few months. Yours truly has been really busy with real life stuff like an internship.

HOWEVER, Erave is doing some stuff in some far away place this week so hold your horses - he'll probably start within a few weeks. Consider this time as the CG4 summer vacation.

Thanks a lot Erave!
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

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Very nice article! It feels like it's missing a few bands, but maybe you'll write about them later? (Jetrho Tull, King Crimson, Rush & Pink Floyd mostly)

I'm a big fan of symphonic prog and prog rock in general too.  Are you going to write about any modern bands of the genre like The Flower Kings, Spock's Beard or Magenta? If not, I might give it shot. Anyway, well written.
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

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heh heh i'm so old you guys dont got nothing on me

i am so old

that's very depressing actually

i am "old" in the internet

so depressing :sad:
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<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

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Ok I've received the chapter. Gonna playtest it later.
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<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

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Jethro Tull, Genesis and Yes are my most listened to artists from the 70's. Then there are Pink Floyd, ELP and other prog rock bands that I listen to occasionally.

Besides Metallica/Iron Maiden/Slayer/metal there are not that many bands from the 80's for me. A notable exception is KANSAS which I absolutely adore. Leftoverture is one of the best albums ever. Incidentally, Mariollion's Misplaced Childhood (also from the 80's) is another long-time favourite of mine.
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

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Well done! Let's keep this moving go go go go g
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<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

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Welcome to Music Creation AdvGui what kind of a nickname is that anyway?
<Drule> I can play the didgeridoo actually
<Drule> some guy on the street taught me
<Drule> come to think of it
<Drule> it was pretty gross how I played on his didgeridoo

so wrong...