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FTR star wars has like dozens and dozens of books which is a pretty good parallel to the books in the bible.

What he's saying is that if the stories in the bible are in fact history, he'd like to see the records from outside sources. IE. the egyptian account of the jewish slaves being freed.


edit: as for the record of Jesus being an actual person, I'd bet my life there wasn't actually a Jesus, at least not the one in the bible. I don't have a link for it but there's this whole thing about the egyptian god Horus, which has a virgin birth, was crucified, etc... and it seems a little convenient that Jesus would be unconnected.

edit2:here's a pretty good chart of jesus vs horus
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5b.htm
Last Edit: June 13, 2009, 06:49:16 am by Mongoloid
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FTR star wars has like dozens and dozens of books which is a pretty good parallel to the books in the bible.

What he's saying is that if the stories in the bible are in fact history, he'd like to see the records from outside sources. IE. the egyptian account of the jewish slaves being freed.


edit: as for the record of Jesus being an actual person, I'd bet my life there wasn't actually a Jesus, at least not the one in the bible. I don't have a link for it but there's this whole thing about the egyptian god Horus, which has a virgin birth, was crucified, etc... and it seems a little convenient that Jesus would be unconnected.

edit2:here's a pretty good chart of jesus vs horus
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5b.htm

Yo don't forget Mithra, Mithra is also a lot like Jesus.

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so they adapted the story of HORYS KRST (our Lord Jesus Christ) to apply to a more contemporary setting. big shmeal. he still existed, idiots.

really tho if you read that site and don't think hmm..somethins a lil fishy here, there is something wrong with you or you are a young warrior atheist. iirc there are like 20 Horuses and that page never says when this horus originated which could have been after jesus's time.
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that page never says when this horus originated which could have been after jesus's time.
holy shit

dude, Egypt's history goes back THOUSANDS of years before jesus's supposed existence.  Horus was worshipped during the pre-dynastic period, which was 4000 years before christ.  Hey, that's around the time the world was invented!
Last Edit: June 15, 2009, 03:04:16 am by Xanqui
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u have to read the first part of the sentence in order for the part u quoted to make sense
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i think i saw this in the da vinci code but then my monsignor told me it was all a bunch of hooey so i don't know who to believe.

you know what i don't like about catholicism? priests. especially when they get all "who gave YOU the right???!" to protestants about con- vs. transubstantiation. and other things. then i try to think of beliefs that i have held so strongly as a belief in god would be and i couldn't really think of any that were totally belief-based. you believe in the wind don't you? that it exists? well you can't see god but you can't see wind either except in the ripples it creates and things that it swirls around and god makes ripples too. so how do you know to attribute them to god. well how do you know to attribute it to the wind? you just do. well it's like that with god too if you would just use your senses. i hope no one makes this argument. crows would be scared to munch breakfast dinner or lunch in the presence of that argument
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so they adapted the story of HORYS KRST (our Lord Jesus Christ) to apply to a more contemporary setting. big shmeal. he still existed, idiots.

really tho if you read that site and don't think hmm..somethins a lil fishy here, there is something wrong with you or you are a young warrior atheist. iirc there are like 20 Horuses and that page never says when this horus originated which could have been after jesus's time.

wait, do you mean horus still existed or jesus did?
What you said makes no sense; if jesus's story is just a culturally adapted story of horus, that negates jesus's existence. the only evidence of there being a jesus is the bible, which you can throw out the window if you think it's an adaptation of horus's story.

Also, Horus was only one god, but represented the sky, moon, sun, etc... which were worshipped separately so that's where you're getting that. Regardless of it, you're suggesting that horus was worshiped less than 2000 years ago is kind of silly.
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That's exactly true. Maybe you should check out some egyptology Earl, egyptian religion began decades before Jesus Christ even supposedly existed. It's just like how Adolf Hitler never existed, he's just a cultural bricolage of prevailing villainous archetypes.
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I think he's trying (badly) to suggest that there could supposedly be 20 different versions of the Horus story, and just because the figure existed and was worshiped long before the story of Jesus Christ was written, doesn't automatically mean that every single story referencing the figure was invented at the same time. The evidence that ties the biography of the figure Horus to that of Christ could come from sources that came about more recently than the Bible's story.

Although I'm quite certain the story about Horus being born of a virgin along with the other factors that tie his life to Jesus comes from evidence that is proved to exist long before the bible. The truth of the matter is that the connection is actually shared among a large set of dieties among varying religions and cultures throughout history. The source of which can all be tied to astrological phoenomena that happen during the equinoxes. (which explains the positions both Christmas and Easter hold on the calendar)
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wait, do you mean horus still existed or jesus did?
What you said makes no sense; if jesus's story is just a culturally adapted story of horus, that negates jesus's existence. the only evidence of there being a jesus is the bible, which you can throw out the window if you think it's an adaptation of horus's story.
I know you're a mongoloid but let's get real bub: jesus is horus. horus existed. the bible is the story of horus adapted to a contemporary setting. you weren't even supposed to take this part seriously

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Also, Horus was only one god, but represented the sky, moon, sun, etc... which were worshipped separately so that's where you're getting that.
This isn't true at all. You can browse the wikipedia page for Horus and have a better understanding of him than this.

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Regardless of it, you're suggesting that horus was worshiped less than 2000 years ago is kind of silly.
hahaha, I'm pretty sure Xanqui did the same thing before he edited his post. you know the egyptians, they were still around 2000 years ago. the rulers of Egypt during Jesus's time, the Romans and before that the Ptolemies, accepted the Egyptian religion. and since Egypt didn't become an arabic state until 636 AD, the Saviour Horus could be an adaptation of jesus by the egyptians or christian missionaries but you dummies are too busy doing fistpumps to even notice things like this.

Although I'm quite certain the story about Horus being born of a virgin along with the other factors that tie his life to Jesus comes from evidence that is proved to exist long before the bible. The truth of the matter is that the connection is actually shared among a large set of dieties among varying religions and cultures throughout history. The source of which can all be tied to astrological phoenomena that happen during the equinoxes. (which explains the positions both Christmas and Easter hold on the calendar)
You are quite certain?? I'm amazed, this must have been quite the deduction given how little effort the site put into backing up their claims! oh, but it's the truth of the matter. get real.
Last Edit: June 16, 2009, 07:01:46 am by earl
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hahaha are you joking or not?
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Last Edit: June 16, 2009, 08:54:04 am by Coxswain
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that is possibly the gayest analogy I've ever made in my life I'm pretty sure and I'm proud of that one.
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To those that asked about the bible being historical fact. As far as I've read, we have no proof whatsoever that the jews would have been in Egypt and then escaped. Plus the bible was rewritten so many times so it becomes kinda just... useless I find. It's full of contradictions etc.

To those arguing about Horus, I'm pretty sure Jesus' existence is historical fact because we would have found enough evidence such as roman scripture about births etc to prove it. Now, yes the guy existed but it's still possible they just made a story around him or whatever. Plus A LOT of deities share very close similarities. Christianity especially since they would just adapt a thousand things from other religions. Jesus is born at Christmas? WRONG Christmas comes from Yule etc...
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hahaha, I'm pretty sure Xanqui did the same thing before he edited his post. you know the egyptians, they were still around 2000 years ago. the rulers of Egypt during Jesus's time, the Romans and before that the Ptolemies, accepted the Egyptian religion. and since Egypt didn't become an arabic state until 636 AD, the Saviour Horus could be an adaptation of jesus by the egyptians or christian missionaries but you dummies are too busy doing fistpumps to even notice things like this.
I edited my post from just "holy shit" to adding the second part, because I thought I should elaborate.  Horus was around since BEFORE the major empire of Egypt existed.  He came in during the late pre-dynastic period, which was a fuck long time before jesus.  Christian arrogance tends to make people ignore other religions or make them think that their beliefs inspired things that existed long before christianity.  Hell, the creationists are so far up their own asses that they think the world is only 6,000 years old. 

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To those arguing about Horus, I'm pretty sure Jesus' existence is historical fact because we would have found enough evidence such as roman scripture about births etc to prove it. Now, yes the guy existed but it's still possible they just made a story around him or whatever. Plus A LOT of deities share very close similarities. Christianity especially since they would just adapt a thousand things from other religions. Jesus is born at Christmas? WRONG Christmas comes from Yule etc...
None of that evidence has been found though.  If it has, please let me know.  I've looked for websites and books about this evidence, but I've never found any.  If you're just saying "well they must have been found," then you're basing your argument on evidence that you yourself don't know whether it exists or not.
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Xanqui, I'm actually pretty sure we do have that evidence although I might be mistaken. If I remember correctly from one of my history classes and a religion class I've had, we have that evidence.
EDIT: I'll check when I have time, right now I'm studying music theory so... hahaha. However, if you say that you weren't able to find anything reliable, I trust ya dude.
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You are quite certain?? I'm amazed, this must have been quite the deduction given how little effort the site put into backing up their claims! oh, but it's the truth of the matter. get real.

Yeah, I'm too lazy to back up my claims. Quite frankly, the truth of the matter is that I don't care what anyone reading that thinks or believes. Really I have no idea what I'm doing in this topic or why I bothered posting. (I actually had to come back here to remember whether or not I had actually posted that in the first place. I was saddened to realise I actually had posted in this instance, since a lot of the time I'll write up a reply and read over it just to realize I have no desire or reason to post in the first place.)

Regardless of that, I still have no interest in showing I'm right, or giving any reason or source to what I claim, so posting in this topic was indeed a mistake, and that much I can easily acknowledge. If you care that much about me bering wrong, you can do the research to disprove what I claim, I'd suggest that you simply disregard what I say and don't put too much energy into worrying about it.
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Why does it matter even the slightest if a guy named Jesus existed? Of course there were millions of Jesuses but if it's not the messiah it's hardly worth having evidence for, right?