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jamie

#1 August 14, 2009, 09:02:06 am

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So this is pretty disgusting:

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/13/arizona.immigrant.advocate/index.html

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Noting the phrase scrawled on many of the plastic water jugs -- "buena suerte," or "good luck" in Spanish -- the prosecutors said, "The obvious conclusion is that the defendant and No More Deaths wish to aid illegal aliens in their entry attempt."

This disgusting man.

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Citing a biologist, the prosecutors said that animals could eat the plastic and that others could get feet or antlers caught on the bottles.

Also, the rotting corpses of South American immigrants are probably a good source of nutrition for many desert scavengers.

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Farren

#2 August 14, 2009, 09:33:55 am

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yeah it sucks but if you were half intelligent and got into something like that then you'd have to expect that asshole border patrollers might jump your dick for it.

with only a year of probation and some community service I think he got pretty good out of it. Just switch one charity for another but the probations really gonna blow, and the fines.

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the bloddy ghost

#3 August 14, 2009, 01:44:25 pm

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that blows fields of dicks.

at best, this could generate attention for people who might want to help them. I hope they figure out a way to give water without plastic bottles. (don't know how they would do this.)

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Farren

#4 August 14, 2009, 02:16:16 pm

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shoot it at them with firehoses

DEUCE: MEETING THE URINE UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL AND REALIZING IT'S JUST LIKE ME AND MY PREJUDICES THIS WHOLE TIME WERE COMPLETELY FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF PTTTTHTHTHH GOD IT'S EVERYWHERE DEUCE: FUCK THIS TASTES LIKE PISS PANTS: WHERE IT SHOULD TASTE LIKE COTTON CANDY OR PICKLES DEUCE: OR AT LEAST LIKE URINE NOT PISS

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Rajew

#5 August 14, 2009, 04:50:12 pm

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Make paper jugs. They have paper cups, why not paper jugs?

Also I don't think animals would go around eating large plastic jugs, I think they only experiment with bite-sized potentially lethal things (balloons and bottle caps)

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Vellfire

#6 August 14, 2009, 05:27:21 pm

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Quote from: Rajew on August 14, 2009, 04:50:12 pm

Make paper jugs. They have paper cups, why not paper jugs?

Also I don't think animals would go around eating large plastic jugs, I think they only experiment with bite-sized potentially lethal things (balloons and bottle caps)

Nah people litter down my street all the time and my dog has torn up soda bottles before trying to get to the leftover soda on the inside. It's pretty possible man. Depends on the animal though, I doubt something would try unless it had sharp teeth.

But yeah milk can come in cartons so I don't know why water couldn't. Still, it's STILL LITTER so that doesn't solve the problem at all. It's just slightly better litter.

Last Edit: August 14, 2009, 05:30:36 pm by Velfarre

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Vellfire

#7 August 14, 2009, 05:31:22 pm

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btw I think it's awful that they're treating this guy like this, i'm just saying that "yeah it is legitimately litter we just all know that that's not why they're calling him on it"

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datamanc3r

#8 August 14, 2009, 05:31:39 pm

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Because ANIMALS are worth more than PEOPLE

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Vellfire

#9 August 14, 2009, 05:35:25 pm

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nope, they aren't

like i said, it's a legitimate litter charge law-wise unfortunately but it's bullshit to call this guy on it because he's helping people with it

people litter all the time let's go after the only guy doing it for a good reason. the only reason we care is he's helping dirty mexicans, luckily he littered doing so so we can fine him and put him on probation.

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Mince Wobley

#10 August 14, 2009, 06:55:36 pm

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Quote from: Juris on August 14, 2009, 05:31:39 pm

Because ANIMALS are worth more than PEOPLE

They are worth more than illegals at least

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Kaempfer

#11 August 14, 2009, 07:49:55 pm

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hello i am devils advocate!!!

Won't leaving water in the desert eventually lead to increased immigration through it? And wouldn't that lead to... more deaths?

"Hey I hear there is water in the desert let's make a break through there!"
*water jug empty*
"Shit!"

then they die!

I mean, it's good that he is helping people not die in the bleak flats of Arizona but on the other hand without the water being a reliable aid it will just end up getting immigrants hopes up and then causing them to die.

edit: Illegal immigration is a multi-sided argument and pretty much sucks for everyone involved but I don't think we should be encouraging people to take a treacherous route through the Scorpion Desert (I don't think the current policy gives them much choice but this seems like an even more deadly option than most).

Last Edit: August 14, 2009, 07:51:43 pm by Kaempfer

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jamie

#12 August 14, 2009, 08:10:30 pm

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Nobody is going to decide or even be reasonably swayed to or from the prospect of crossing a desert on foot because there is a possibility they may come across a bottle of water at some point, I doubt anybody has really even heard about it. This guy's little thing that he is doing might not be a great idea, I don't know. It doesn't sound terrible to me, maybe it saved somebody from passing out at some point, but it's impossible to truly gauge whether these things are worth it at all. I made this topic just to point out how ugly and stupid the prosecution's whole argument was, that it seems to indicate a really horrible attitude towards people who cross the Mexico-US border and see if anyone had any kind of knowledge about it.

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big ass skelly

#13 August 14, 2009, 08:14:16 pm

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I don't understand why they need bottled water anyway, couldn't they just lick each other's backs to quench their thirst?

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Kaempfer

#14 August 15, 2009, 01:42:26 am

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Quote from: jamie on August 14, 2009, 08:10:30 pm

I doubt anybody has really even heard about it.

I don't know, it seems like there are some pretty fast-acting channels of communication here. There have been cases of tunnels being dug for miles under the border and areas being exploited by thousands in a matter of hours so obviously it's not just a wild free-for-all. Many immigrants have family already in the US and... they do have phones in Mexico.

I am not saying a few jugs o' water are going to change any minds, but if a bunch of people got together and started doing this all over after this guy's example then it could have an impact. They aren't given many options, so even a glimmer of hope can seem like enough sometimes!

Quote from: Mark on August 14, 2009, 08:14:16 pm

I don't understand why they need bottled water anyway, couldn't they just lick each other's backs to quench their thirst?

Except that term comes from them swimming across rivers which they are obviously not doing if they're in the desert!!! GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT "MARK"

edit: Although like I said I am just presenting another point of view I don't think it's bad to give water to thirsty dying people!

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Mince Wobley

#15 August 15, 2009, 01:47:26 am

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If illegal imigrant friendly people started leaving water around the desert for illegals to drink then illegal imigrant unfriendly people would start poisoning that water so that's a good reason not to leave water around

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Farren

#16 August 17, 2009, 12:01:48 am

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there is no multi side to immigration by the way

its one world fuck your borders. Imaginary lines from imaginary people with imaginary societies..........all imaginatin shit

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Marge

#17 August 17, 2009, 09:23:21 am

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Wrong topic Coxswain: http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=10315.0

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Vellfire

#18 August 17, 2009, 11:35:31 am

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Quote from: Mince Wobley on August 15, 2009, 01:47:26 am

If illegal imigrant friendly people started leaving water around the desert for illegals to drink then illegal imigrant unfriendly people would start poisoning that water so that's a good reason not to leave water around

Except when somebody came upon the bodies of several mexicans clutching water bottles I'm pretty sure this is going to end with those people being tried for murder.

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Barack Obama

#19 August 17, 2009, 12:03:20 pm

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as long as they ain't takin' our jobs.....

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Mince Wobley

#20 August 17, 2009, 03:27:15 pm

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Quote from: Velfarre on August 17, 2009, 11:35:31 am

Except when somebody came upon the bodies of several mexicans clutching water bottles I'm pretty sure this is going to end with those people being tried for murder.

Except they were wearing masks and made sure they didn't left any evidence behind and used a delayed action poison so people who drink from the water will only die several days later

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