mince wobley made that one game using the rm2k engine but i have a feeling he coded his own editor for it.

LMAO!  ​ 

Mostly everyone that looks and posts at the screenshot topic are still making games in RPG Maker.

Well this isn't true at all.  Even in professional studios you really only have a handful of programmers writing things with raw code.  And they are developing tools that the designers use that are a lot like Game Maker, Torque, RPGMaker etc.  A lot of these tools are tidied up and published for modders, like the mod tools that came with Fallout and Oblivion.

And if you're talking about independent development, you're still usually using editors.  Torque, for example, is used for all sorts of high-profile XBox 360 arcade games:

http://www.garagegames.com/products/torque-3d/xbox360

EDIT: But yeah people should stop using RM2k3!  There are much better tools out there that have much better publishing avenues.

Well see, that's the difference. There's a pretty big gap between Torque, rpg maker and mod tools.

Especially since most game engines are made FOR THAT GAME or at least for a handful of games, which is why they can work so well.  When you try to make one tool for creating any game, it does not work very well.  You can't make a program to do EVERYTHING.  It's just like Scribblenauts, you can't account for other people's ideas.

wasn't there that one german game made in rm2k that actually looked and played damn well respectable. like it wasn't shitty at all.

i'm trying to remember the name. what ever happened to that game i thought it was going to be translated but it didn't.

I think you mean Velsarbor. I thought someone was translating it too 

http://velsarbor.rpg-atelier.net/