uh don't go talking about fallacies with me when your ENTIRE POST was an ad hominem fallacy by attacking me personally, saying i am 15 and i "shouldn't be concerned with this". having such a malicious argument is not a way to debate effectively-- you essentially aren't saying anything in that post, you're just attacking me.

i simply like to know things. what's wrong with being interested in all sorts of issues, even if they aren't relevant to my personal life? i'm not saying that i CARE DEEPLY about internet dating or anything; it's just a topic that came up that i thought about and decided to post my opinion. i happen to know someone who met their husband online, so i mentioned it. i really don't see an issue here.

you are wrong to assume that people's views change when they get older. not everybody starts out as a conservative christian and turns into a liberal atheist through college. statistics would show that the majority of the USA is NOT atheist, so it's wrong to assume that religion is something one simply "grows out of". i understand you don't believe in religion, but that doesn't mean that people who do are wrong. learn to respect others' views, even if you don't understand or accept them. and perhaps through talking about it, you will be able to understand it eventually.

If you love someone enough then not even your god would be a reason to stop that.

who made you the authority on love? something's not true just because you say it is. i don't agree with that statement. for Christians like me, the number one priority in life is living God's way. you don't have to agree with me about the importance of that, but you should respect my priorities. it's not like i'm hurting people through my beliefs-- i aim to help everyone and live a moral life, trying to be Christ-like.

anyways, i know that being a Christian definitely can get in the way of relationships. personally, i do have experience with this, whether you consider it "valid" or not--after all i am a 15-year-old girl so everything i say must be about hottt guyz and shopping and fashion right!??? i've been dating a guy for, ohh... a little over 17 months now. i'm learning a lot about relationships and some of my views have definitely changed in these past couple years of knowing him. i love him, even though he has caused me a lot of heartache (you can tell me i don't know what love is but i don't care. i know my own feelings.). i didn't want to fall in love with him--after all, he reminds me of the type of person who i would find on GW!

anyways, all i'm saying is that i know FOR SURE that differing religions can cause relationship problems. it doesn't matter how much love there is between the people. my boyfriend and i love each other, but that doesn't stop problems from springing up about issues that are important to us. i want him to be more interested in religion--i mean really, he doesn't know the first thing about Christianity, even though it's so important to me. he wants me to stop doing drugs--but again, that's something important to me that i wish he understood, even if he didn't take part. relationships are complicated.

This isn't even on a level of worry or concern that you need bother yourself with. And any kind of loving or understanding god would not strike you down for caring for another person that does not believe

that has nothing to do with it. don't assume you know what you're talking about if you've never even had experience with this. seriously, it makes me so angry to see such ignorant things being said.

the idea of christians avoiding such personal connections with non-believers is simply to help avoid heartache and failed relationships. for one thing, it's tough for the christian! in a situation with one who doesn't share your morals, it becomes easy to give in to sexual immorality, compromised beliefs, etc... (i'm definitely guilty of falling into these sorts of things. love makes it seem okay. whether you think it's wrong or not, i can say that i personally believe it is, and so it causes guilt for me.)

it's also difficult for the other person-- as a christian, i have moral standards that others may not have. my boyfriend wants sex, but loves me enough that he doesn't care that i won't oblige. (not to say i haven't screwed up and given in to desires and stuff. but i feel guilty later. i'd prefer to follow my own morals rather than feel forced to follow others' morals, or lack thereof.) my boyfriend has views that are different from mine. it's hard for both of us to be able to step back and accept the differences.

finally, i believe i will go to heaven after death. i believe my boyfriend will not. i do not like the thought that he will be suffering in hell after death. (that's something that shakes my own beliefs, sure.) obviously, only god can determine judgment, but... all i'm saying is that i believe firmly in certain things that make it difficult for me to just passively accept differences. when i love someone, it makes me want to introduce them to GOD'S love too. it's the thing that has kept me alive all these years, even as i have gone through some horrible horrible things. to know that the guy i love doesn't have that comfort makes me sad.

it has nothing to do with fearing BEING SMITTEN BY GOD or something. god simply advises against these relationships because he doesn't want to see us struggling and suffering so much. often, the relationship ends painfully, with BOTH sides wishing they hadn't gone into it, even if for different reasons.

So regardless, don't fucking worry about it. All it is, is nonsense. Accept what you cannot change or just don't think about it right now because you're fucking fifteen and just because you have a boyfriend that does not mean that you should be thinking about love at all right now.

dude it's really not good advice to me if all i get all of it is the sense that you are talking down to me. let me just say... i can be concerned about whatever i want. you don't know me. you can believe it's nonsense if you want, but respect the fact that it is important TO ME. i know i can't change people (that's why it's necessary to avoid relationships with non-christians-- you can't always change them).

whatever, maybe it's not love. i know i'm still young and i know that i don't know anything. but i gotta believe what i know right now, even though i'm always open to new opinions. i believe i'm in love; i don't need to defend my relationship just to prove a point here. obviously i may end up breaking up with my boyfriend or whatever! i have no idea what will happen in my life. same thing can happen to anyone else. you should stop assuming that you know everything. you are young and stupid just like me. when you are 50, you may be vastly different than you are now--you may look back and think "jeez, i was such a pretentious liberal douchebag" just as you currently look back to your teenage years and think "wow, i was a stupid ignorant Christian".

This is something you both will understand when you're older (you and your wow advisor).

way to sound all high and mighty! i suppose you must be the wisest man on earth, huh?
my "wow advisor" is a college music composition teacher, a very caring woman who volunteers as a small group leader, and a wife to a fun but ignorant man. she's 39 years old and has been through A LOT in her life. she was a nerdy, liberal, atheist girl who spent her time on World of Warcraft home alone, for a long time. she went through ovarian cancer over a few years, which left her sterile and unhealthy for the rest of her life. she's married to a nice guy as far as i can tell, but she has a lot of pain in her heart because she knows he doesn't understand the love of God that she is so passionate about.
all i can say is that you should stop assuming things and just accept the fact that there are other people in the world who are just as smart and valuable as you, yet they have vastly different beliefs.

oh and last thing:

also that argument was a fallacy mkk, you cannot be well informed on religion because "being well informed" on religion counteracts what religion is.

how? i mean, i understand what you're trying to say, but it's kinda just wrong. you definitely CAN be well-informed on religion. people go to college for religious studies-- understanding the institution of religion and the differences between all the major belief systems. my small group leader knows a lot about that stuff. she's been a Christian for the past 9 years after having a life full of religious turmoil and now she is content. spreading God's love is the most important thing to her, and she wishes her husband would try to learn more about it and why it's important to her. he is like an average GW person who trusts in stereotypes and believes that anyone who isn't an atheist is simply wrong, even though he doesn't know anything about other religions.

anyways this has been a long post but i felt compelled to reply because i am angered by the fact that someone can post such malicious replies to such a calm original statement. i was just posting what i know about online dating through other people and about dating in general through my own experience. i don't get why that makes people so angry. i guess it's just more of a personal attack on me--after all, people do say that they can't get through any of my posts. i blame that on an unwillingness to learn other opinions, which is exactly what i am always accused of.

ugh. for real, Yugoslavian Ghoul, you need to chill out.