Yesterday I was watching something about animals on the discovery channel and there were some intelligent people trying to prove that animals can think and etc, and they showed how dolphins blow ring shaped bubbles and then swim through it just for entertainment and how if they placed two buckets, one with a pic of stapler and the other with a pic of an apple in a monkey infested zone the monkeys would check the bucket with the apple picture first and etc. Also there were a bunch of chimps beating up another one (because he had an undesirable personality) and when they stopped the victim climbed up a tree and another chimp (with a higher status) got near him to stop the other chimps from beating him up again.

So they do everything we do but in a smaller scale (because they don't have the same motor coordination we do). Don't even come with that "duh but we can go to the moon in a rocket ship" because you can't and won't ever do that, you're not smart enough to go to the moon or do anything else or else you wouldn't be reading this. Don't say "it's just chemistry duh" because so are you.

So, how do you feel about animals being just like people? Feel free to post your outdated 19th century ideas.

cat: "Graaaowww"

me: "ok basil, here's your seat on the sofa"

cat: "Graaoooowww!" *jumps onto sofa*

me: "ok where am I gonna sit now"

animals are pretty cool, there's a movement to grant legal protection to our fellow apes. I really hope it succeeds.
elephants and gorrillas are ace, I remember reading about like Koko and her friends, the gorillas that could speak and form sentances in sign language, and could form new words by combining symbols.

A thousand monkeys can sit for a thousand years by a thousand typewrites and they'll still write a more interesting book than Tom Clancy.

I remember this awful pbs program where they had a bunch of idiots with glasses and sweaters sitting around a table masturbating and acting like they know things. they were talking about music, and one of the guys stroked his chin and said "one of the major differences between animals and humans is that humans have the capacity to enjoy music" then he smirked and his friend giggled and they finished each other off.

so I guess the point is that some people get these weird ideas about animals that sort of downplay their intelligence or abilities. like, they really want to make sure they're different from/superior to other animals. it's really strange. I hope we get someone like that here.

of course people also attribute things to animals that they simply cannot do but that seems pretty normal to me, everyone wants to feel like they have a smart pet

i am glad animals can think.

good job animals!

Very few animals are capable of actions like this. The current belief is that most great apes and other mammals do have the ability to empathize with others, in the sense that they feel stressed when they notice others are in trouble, but aren't able to translate those feelings into actions. Chimps are the smartest of the bunch and have shown themselves to be highly social, but they're really the only ones, and their abilities are still miniscule compared to even the earliest humans.

It's just an example dada....  ​ The point is animals do things people in the 19th century tought only humans did.

No it's not because I said it's ok to post outdated ideas, I wanna read them too.

9i like anymals.. there kewt


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So they do everything we do but in a smaller scale (because they don't have the same motor coordination we do).

i dont think motor coordination is the main reason chimps' social activities are on a much smaller and primitive scale than humans

noting the capacity for certain species to think, specifically primates, is pretty important in understanding the development of our own species. However equating human intelligence to that of other animals is p. naive and overlooks a lot of pretty significant differences that distinguish the human brain and its capabilities as a remarkable product of evolution.

also: dolphinsex.org

to answer this you need to answer some philosophy questions on what thought and intellect are. is the autistic calculator intelligent? thoughtful? an illiterate rapper?

plenty of animals do smart things and i'm pretty sure all of them have REM sleep so there's something going on behind INPUT/OUTPUT in animals too.