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Since we're talking strategy here, there's Grandia (all 3 of them). G3 has  piss poor story, but the best battle system.

But it's true about action games, unlike turn based ones, where once you learn the best spells, the "strategy" is CAST BEST SPELL x10, action games don't (usually) have that. Like Tales and Star Ocean games. Sure you have the best spells, but they don't do much more then you could by just running up to the enemy and smacking them.
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final fantasy tactics doesnt count because its a strategy game more than an rpg
never played grandia or the shin megami series (well i played demi kids I think it was called but that was also CAST BEST SPELL/AUTOATTACK YOU WIN!!!) so maybe you win this time
I'd also like to remand my previous statements the Pokemon series has a lot of in depth strategy in say the battle tower and metagame but if its just a normal battle then your level 96 charizard is going to beat misty no matter what with whatever attack, but yea the EV and IV and the choice of moves and type bonuses and special abilities and all that is very in depth. Pokemon series for best rpgs!!!

I onyl said Chrono Trigger was the best jrpg of all time because I hear it a lot I don't actually know!!
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final fantasy tactics doesnt count because its a strategy game more than an rpg
never played grandia or the shin megami series (well i played demi kids I think it was called but that was also CAST BEST SPELL/AUTOATTACK YOU WIN!!!) so maybe you win this time
I'd also like to remand my previous statements the Pokemon series has a lot of in depth strategy in say the battle tower and metagame but if its just a normal battle then your level 96 charizard is going to beat misty no matter what with whatever attack, but yea the EV and IV and the choice of moves and type bonuses and special abilities and all that is very in depth. Pokemon series for best rpgs!!!

I onyl said Chrono Trigger was the best jrpg of all time because I hear it a lot I don't actually know!!

Well I'm pretty sure Demi Kids (or SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI : Devil Children as it's called in japan) is said to be the easiest .. or one of the easiest in the series.
Along with Devil Summoner(thats a action RPG ONE MWAHAHAHAHA,dont ask me why I did that I just felt evil)

Also I could barely tell Demi Kids was a Shin Megami Tensei game I found out like 2 years after I beat it.
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man there are a lot of things jrpgs do wrong... a few to name a few:
can't save when ever and were you want

BS like bosses being immune to every spell and status effect ever made. seriosly, I had to fight some Shiva clone boss thiing in FF12 and no magic worked on it. not even fire. the only thing you could do is equip ice sheilds that half the damage to ice, have your tank character plow into her and keep your others as far away as fucking possible casting heal and haste and shell.

somtimes enemies get to attack twice in 1 turn if it's turnbased or little freebie attacks like in FF12 that are fuckin like the plague that give you every single status effect known to man kind ever to all your party members.

man sometimes the hardest enemies ever revive them selves to full strength by casting some magical spell you can't learn. this happened in FF12 a few times too, some bosses would just cure itself full of Hp while your sitting there running out of potions and shit and your Mp is all gone.

sometimes the movement speed fustrates me, even when you have a run button. actually this one applies to many games, like Mass Effect(only run in battles), Morrorwind(walking is reallly slow AND running is like 2% better), Halo(mister chef can't run?), ff12(every monster moves faster than you) and etc...  though the problem isn't always the speed, it's the distances between plot points usually due to bad design. especially when you have to backtrack because you forgot something or the game is being stupid and isn't clear on what to do so you go back a long ways and find out you have to go back again.

maybe this is because I'm a good runner irl but seriously it seems like some characters just move so sloww...

also ff12 had so much crap to put up with looking back...
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*mashes x, character is actively doing something on screen*

*presses x, character casts fire II, wait for characters next turn, press x*

One of these is inherently more interesting than the other

also the "strategy" you're talking about is *CAST FIRAGA III* but don't  tell anyone  :shh:

like seriously even in chrono trigger THE BEST JRPG OF ALL TIME or whatever in the final battle all I found myself doing was *cast best spell, heal/revive, repeat* yay for the complex strategies!!!!
heck even in FABLE i find myself rolling around and defending and waiting for the opportune moment to strike which is more strategy than firecannon XII *deals 992 fire damage*
and Morrowind I have to plan things out carefully cause I play sneaky characters with few combat skills on hardest difficulty so even the first cave with the smuggles in it is a painful ordeal ("okay now that I stole this sword of paralysis and have a ring that grants invisibilty I will be able to paralyze the one with the spells while I try to kill the guy with the huge axe OH GOD I SHOULD HAVE PARALYZED THE AXE GUY MY STRATEGY IS POOR)

so much for your "more strategy" argument, heh heheheheh hehe heh  :welp:

edit: like honestly the most strategy i think ive found in any rpg (besides strategy rpgs like fire emblem) are like Craze/!\'s rpg maker games and its pretty bad when the best example of a piece of your genre is from RPG MAKER

Yeah i repect your opinion but dont agree with it one bit please go out and buy one of the games jrs listed play it try to beat it than complain about strategy.
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Yeah i repect your opinion but dont agree with it one bit please go out and buy one of the games jrs listed play it try to beat it than complain about strategy.

what makes you think he hasn't?
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i respect your opinion but i think its worth shit because you havent played this so go play it you asshole


oh wait i guess i dont respect your opinion at all!!! LOLL
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All the SMT games really add (except the old SNES ones) is more emphasis on elemental weaknesses. So instead of spamminf SUPER DUPER FIRE ATTACK 3 on everything, you use that and the other elemental counterparts depending on enemy. And that's all that's really neccescary, generally.

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what makes you think he hasn't?

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never played grandia or the shin megami series
probably  :fogetshrug:

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All the SMT games really add (except the old SNES ones) is more emphasis on elemental weaknesses. So instead of spamminf SUPER DUPER FIRE ATTACK 3 on everything, you use that and the other elemental counterparts depending on enemy. And that's all that's really neccescary, generally.
ah yes, such deep and complex stragedys
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yeah but jr listed other games too didn't he?
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baten kaitos.
which i have also never played.
lets just say i haven't played any jrpgs and am just making broad assumptions from things i read on the internet

(or that my little brother plays lots of jrpgs)
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baten kaitos.
which i have also never played.
lets just say i haven't played any jrpgs and am just making broad assumptions from things i read on the internet

(or that my little brother plays lots of jrpgs)

What about the Legend of Legaia games?(I'm not to sure about this one since I haven't played them much)
Also my bro was telling me Lunar 2 was pretty hard.
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have you played any western rpg;s (like baldur's gate)
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yes. elder scrolls series, fallout 3, fable(or is fable an action game i think it is) SOME planescape torment, neverwinter nights
 there are probably more on this list but thinking is for losers
also what is legend of lagaia why are there so many strange names. games with madeup words in their titles kind of always put me off
who really wants to play CHRONICLES OF IXACULON THE CRYSTAL FORGURANT OF IRE
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lets just say i haven't played any jrpgs
this is a very good thing, I hope you hang on to this and never get exposed to any of that garbage.
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this is a very good thing, I hope you hang on to this and never get exposed to any of that garbage.

Heh dont listen to this fag go and buy some jrpgs,take some of your lil bro,or pirate them if you want jus beat a really good one like ff4,6,9, or 10 if you have a gamecube baten kaitos or skies of arcadia just please do rajew.......Or else i might go into overdrive and Blitz Ace your ass  :mad: .
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finally hong kong does something right
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this comment was on that article:

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since the announcement of the game going multiplatform I decided not to buy it. I knew that going multiplatform was gonna kill the quality of the game, and it seems it did.


what kind of confused thinking causes someone to think this is the problem

edit: jesus it gets worse

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dual layer dvd FAIL¡¡¡¡¡¡
thanks x360 for kill this game piece of crap

my favorite though:

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guys its a boycoting , abig terotorial boycot , how that magazines rated teh awful MW2 10/10 and now they rat FF13 4/10 and they said its bad , do realy believe this , guys from french magazines played the game in japaness and confirmed that the have a good gameplay and lifetime , hey FF13 is good game dont suport 1 year games like MW2 of shit and boycot a long time dev game like FF13 , your killing gaming world like this

o shit  :fogetgasp:
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