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Drule

#21 January 07, 2010, 06:29:13 am

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I'm not too excited about true 3D gaming and I don't really think it's going to have a big impact. I've seen a few movies in 3D and didn't have a problem with nausea or anything and I guess it was a pretty cool experience, but it's still just a gimmicky effect.

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Pulits

#22 January 07, 2010, 07:43:42 am

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I saw Avatar and A Christmas Carol in 3D and all I can tell it's stupid as shit. It's not cool at all and I hate how something that bland can get media and consumer attention.

I thought this stopped somewhere in the gayties or 90's when everyone realized those red-blue glasses were retarded, but no, it suddenly returned.

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#23 January 07, 2010, 07:58:13 am

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Did you guys know Alfred Hitchcock filmed a movie in 3D?

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#24 January 07, 2010, 08:01:40 am

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Quote from: Mince Wobley on January 07, 2010, 04:39:16 am

Volumetric display would only be useful for

1. tomographies
2. designing engines

Computers would only be useful for government labs and universities

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Vellfire

#25 January 07, 2010, 12:49:06 pm

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Quote from: Frisky SKeleton on January 07, 2010, 02:53:09 am

if you're looking for a true 3d experience go to a stage show, your point is stupid. we don't see in three dimensions we have two eyes presented with a 2d image and depth is implied, which is what these 3d things do

yes but you can't walk around a 3D screen to look at it from another angle

sure you can move a camera around but fuck it's a lot cooler to have something you can physically walk around and look at

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#26 January 07, 2010, 02:32:01 pm

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Quote from: Mince Wobley on January 07, 2010, 04:59:29 am

Lmfao it's not useful for gaming if you can see through the images!!

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#27 January 07, 2010, 03:24:10 pm

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What I would really like is the ability to watch football with depth perception as a lot of the time you don't really know where the ball is going if it's a long shot across the pitch. That I would buy.

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Vellfire

#28 January 07, 2010, 03:27:31 pm

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espn is about to launch a 3D channel isn't it? i just heard something about this, and yeah they were going to show football matches in full 3D

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Eltee

#29 January 07, 2010, 05:37:53 pm

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theres a bunch of "2010 gadgets" listed in the newspaper here today

amongst them is all that new 3d, along with 3d tv channels, so i do suppose, yes

also phone-watch and that apple touch laptop and some other stuff i dont care about

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Mama Luigi

#30 January 07, 2010, 05:42:38 pm

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I thought you could already do that, just not from the comfort of your own home. Don't some theaters show football games in 3D?

Also the absolute best and most convincing 3D gaming experience will be one that combines headtracking with Nvidia's 3D vision. An ideal end result would be indistinguishable from real life, as the stereoscopic picture would adjust for your head position - the same way that we see different angles in real life by adjusting our head position. Obviously we're a long way away from "indistinguishable from real life"... screen resolutions and refresh rates are no where near what they need to be... and there is no headtracking standard that all games support.

If you want to know more about headtracking, I recommend Johnny Lee's video where he uses a Wiimote to headtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw

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tuxedo marx

#31 January 07, 2010, 05:51:46 pm

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Quote from: Vellfire on January 07, 2010, 03:27:31 pm

espn is about to launch a 3D channel isn't it? i just heard something about this, and yeah they were going to show football matches in full 3D

just read about this and i must say the prospect of 3D world cup matches is quite exciting.

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#32 January 07, 2010, 06:46:39 pm

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Quote from: Mama Luigi on January 07, 2010, 05:42:38 pm

I thought you could already do that, just not from the comfort of your own home. Don't some theaters show football games in 3D?

Also the absolute best and most convincing 3D gaming experience will be one that combines headtracking with Nvidia's 3D vision. An ideal end result would be indistinguishable from real life, as the stereoscopic picture would adjust for your head position - the same way that we see different angles in real life by adjusting our head position. Obviously we're a long way away from "indistinguishable from real life"... screen resolutions and refresh rates are no where near what they need to be... and there is no headtracking standard that all games support.

If you want to know more about headtracking, I recommend Johnny Lee's video where he uses a Wiimote to headtrack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd3-eiid-Uw

I've been following this. If the sequel to Mario Galaxy comes out and it doesn't support this, then I am quite literally done with Nintendo based franchises.

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Eltee

#33 January 07, 2010, 07:11:10 pm

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What use would they have for headtracking and just HOW would they implement it in Mario?

Yeah, play with a wiimote, but to fully play the game, get another and strap it to your head~

Come on.

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Mama Luigi

#34 January 07, 2010, 11:29:05 pm

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Unfortunately - just like Mr. L says, it'd be pretty unconventional without some sort of standard. If Nintendo doesn't come out with some sort of headtracking kit (maybe a Mario cap with the IR LEDs?) and doesn't support it themselves, it's not going to take off.

Headtracking is alive and well in the PC realm, particularly in flight sims. Check out the TrackIR 5. I want it, however it doesn't look like many games support a realistic mode that just adjusts the angle based on where your location is... most of the modes supported by the TrackIR 5 are more functional (ie turn head slightly left to look left in game).

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#35 January 08, 2010, 12:18:50 am

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(maybe a Mario cap with the IR LEDs?)

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Frisky SKeleton

#36 January 08, 2010, 12:36:47 am

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Quote from: Vellfire on January 07, 2010, 12:49:06 pm

yes but you can't walk around a 3D screen to look at it from another angle

sure you can move a camera around but fuck it's a lot cooler to have something you can physically walk around and look at

theatres aren't set up for people walking around for a reason (it sucks when people walk around)

this latest 3d technology where all you have to do is don lightweight glasses is most likely to take off because TVs were headed that way (faster Faster FASTER) and it really doesn't require anything from the consumer or producer. aren't those nvidea shutter things compatible with anything 3d pretty much? your computer renders the full scene all it has to do is show you the same scene from a centimetre sideways.

i don't think this will be WHOA MIND BLOWING but more likely at best WASD controls where it just sort of becomes standard and it's really awkward and irritating switching back

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Frisky SKeleton

#37 January 08, 2010, 12:38:05 am

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also this would be cool with the new SUPER THIN SCREENS as a virtual window for people in apartments or something

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#38 January 08, 2010, 01:07:17 am

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theatres aren't set up for people walking around for a reason

games aren't like plays at all why do you keep making this analogy

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Frisky SKeleton

#39 January 08, 2010, 01:41:33 am

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because the only games it could really be used in RTS's where the perspective isn't fixed anyway? i only see disadvantages in it taking up physical space

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#40 January 08, 2010, 01:55:53 am

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then just use it in rts's that doesn't make the idea less cool

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