what if yo had a bulletproof dog? why wouldnt you let him go into law enforcement.

warpped655, do you have any idea how shallow and unfulfilling that would be?

was talking about the edit, not the robots. that would too be shallow and rewarding but in the same was as err masturbation i guess. it's 4D pornography basically

but hell, you don't need to justify yourself to what might as well be a talking crocodile

warpped you sound like a dude that has gotten their heart broken at least once in their life.  is this true?

how do we respond to you seriously? you're a virgin that wants to have sex but you're anxious around women. your philosophies justifying this and what you want are pretty lol.

Would you still consider it objectifying women or pathetic with there were sex bots/matrix style virtual reality where they perfectly replicated how a girl acts in a sexual situation? Just curious would like to get some opinions...

EDIT:
No. I'm not really disappointed in my virginity as some sort of failure(EDIT: I don't view sex as some sort of achievement, but as a thing to be enjoyed I want to enjoy it) because I don't try because I see getting into a monogamous relationship is to much work and time for little reward.

And my goal isn't to "bang a hooker" its to merely 'bang' a girl that is exceedingly attractive to me. I view just paying for it as more convenient, easier, etc. rather than to search for a girl that I find attractive and that finds me attractive, then likely date her for a extended period.

I'm OK with a emotional aspect, but only if its a "friend" connection. Not romantic. Basically I want a fuck buddy that I can also have a enjoyable conversation with. Few girls are interested in this because they instinctively want commitment. so this further reduces the number of girls that can work for this and extends the wait. I'm not that patient.

I genuinely think that too many people view 'love' as some sort of mystical unexplainable thing. Romance is a big part of this delusion and I sort of find it dumb/creepy/pointless.

Wow, you're such a romantic, I wonder why girls don't want you.

christ you guys are awful

Honestly I'm pretty indifferent about the whole strip club thing, on one hand, it seems like a pretty cool place to just enjoy yourself and get drunk w.e with some friends and not entirely focus on the whole concept of GIRLS SHAKING THEIR SHIT right in front of you though some creepy old men may see it that way. Then there's the morality issue about girls basically degrading themselves but honestly it's their decision to be there and they're making the cash that they want, and us as males generally consider NUDE WOMEN to be a very satisfying experience, I probably would if on the influence of a few brews. At the same time I understand why some people would be bothered by this fact, to me myself it's a little bit unsettling but really I could care less. It is what it is.

On a side note surprisingly my sister often goes to the strip club with her female and male friends.. from that I see it as more of a social type of thing.

Man some of you guys are really closeminded jerks.

"man I feel so morally superior to you right now, I'm just gonna HNNGH make fun of you from HHHNNNGH up here on my high horse HHHHHHNNNGHGH FEELS SO GOOOD"

thinking stripclubs are gross don't make you closeminded at all what is wrong with you

I wouldn't say they are gross, but definitely not a place with a whole lot of class.

stripclubs are just another measure of manhood.

its like going hunting or to a race track or a football game or a dozen other things in the same vein its all shit men and some women choose to do as a form of entertainment.

There is no claim on the mistreatment of strippers to be made GENERALLY because GENERALLY you can't go to a club and do anything that would obviously demean a woman without being kicked out. What some people choose to identify as a source of belittlement for women others view as empowerment and still others see as nothing but a form of entertainment.

Thinking there is something a little gay about a bunch of guys going to a club to watch women dance and comparing it to watching pornography with other men isn't the same. The women at the strip club are dancing on a pole for dollar bills, that is not the same as having a cock filling their asses for dollar bills. I can see how someone might be mistaken though.

I think some people in this topic are a little self righteous and there are others that are too defensive. I myself choose not to frequent these places too often because they can be pretty depressing but so is everything else, nothing to get on a high horse about.

Didn't read whole thread but did read some of it just now, really though it's not that big of a deal.. people getting defensive about something like this really just amazes me.

warpped, even I would say that visiting a prostitute isn't necessarily a good idea. Yeah when you're still a virgin, you think life sucks. It's as if you're missing out, as if someone is throwing the sweetest party ever in your own living room, and you aren't invited. But really, I think you just need to lighten up about sex. I know that can be hard, what with how American culture shoves sex down our throats constantly 24/7. In movies, on TV, on the radio, it's everywhere. And yet, paradoxically there is this twisted unhealthy mindset about sex, as if it is nasty, dirty, and wrong, and needs to be covered up. I think those conflicting values really fuck a lot of young people up.

You think that if you "take the plunge" and finally get laid, it will magically fix everything that is wrong with your sex life. But it won't. In fact, if you end up paying for it, I think it will be even worse for you. If your first experience is with a prostitute, you'll always have that hanging in the back of your mind. When you get an actual girlfriend and a relationship, what are you going to do when she asks you about your prior sexual experience? You can either lie your ass off, or you can fess up, and neither of those options will probably do you any good.

And I'm sorry to say this, but your problem with girls has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you are a virgin. Whatever anxiety you are experiencing around girls is the cause of your virginity, not vice versa. Whatever is causing that anxiety - most likely low self esteem - will not conveniently disappear just because you stick your dick in some pussy. It's not really that simple man!

Finally... sex just isn't that important. Yeah, it's fun, but it is not the meaning of life. Being so fixated on it, that if you don't get it you are miserable and afraid of girls, is unhealthy. There is so much more to life than just sex, my friend. And in my opinion, you shouldn't worry about people's opinion of you just because you're a virgin. There is nothing inherently "wrong" with you because of that, and anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is an epic fucking douchebag. IMO, anyone who tries to make you feel bad about being a virgin - including you making yourself feel bad - needs to readjust their value systems.

I hope this helps. And if you would like to talk more, away from a bunch of tremendous assholes who would rather put you down rather than offer up any human compassion, just PM me.