Topic: Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - WiiWare, XBLA, PSN Bound (Read 2757 times)

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In that background, what's with all those crazy squares embedded in that plateau?  That's all I want to know.
those are little windows to show that the rock is hollow.
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This release makes me happy. Before now people could forgive the shitty new titles because they had absolutely no connection with the originals.

Complain all they want, I can lump Sonic 4 in with Sonics 1, 2 and 3 and there isn't shit they can say to stop me!

Any time anyone tries to contrast anything Sonic related with the "original" games and talk about how they keep missing the mark, I am going to mention this game as one of them, so I can immediately start making comparisons that I'll generalize across all 4 titles in the "original" sonic series.
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what is a self respecting gamer

A gamer who respects himself.

By the way, my teacher said something interesting this week. "In a few years, the word gamer will no longer exist, because games are becoming mainstream. You don't ask people "are you a televisioner?" either, or "do you television?"

What do you guys think about that  :fogetbackflip:
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Gotta love the reactions to this.

Make a 3d game and all the fans bitch and want a 2d game.
Make a 2d game and all the fans bitch.


Obviously I can't really comment NDA blah blah blah. Gameplay looks fun.

Well the 3D games have taken a drastic change compared to past Sonic games.  The only ones I really absolutely despised this gen was Sonic 06, and I also like Secret Rings more than Black Knight.  No matter what though, my main beef with them is that the a lot of series' staples are either marginalized or put out there in a way that makes some things less fun to play around with.  For instance, Super Sonic has become a power relegated entirely to the final zone for some epic showdown with the game's final boss.  The only time I didn't mind it was the final showdown in Secret Rings because Sonic actually gained a new power in that one... well he did in Dark Knight too but being encased in golden armor was pretty lame and entirely expected.

I'm looking forward to this though, hopefully it turns out well.
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A gamer who respects himself.

By the way, my teacher said something interesting this week. "In a few years, the word gamer will no longer exist, because games are becoming mainstream. You don't ask people "are you a televisioner?" either, or "do you television?"

What do you guys think about that  :fogetbackflip:

Yeah, but how old is the name Nerd or Trekkie? Gaming might go mainstream, but so did --for this argument--star trek. Gamer is someone who plays games in a big way. Casual Gamer is just anyone who plays games once in a blue moon or whatever. It's also a sort of self-imposed social status or moniker. Your teacher doesn't know what 4chan is probably though, so I can't blame him/her.

Edit: also I think the term for someone who sits around watching TV all day is a couch potato.
Quote from: Urban Dictionary
1.    couch potato
a lazy person who does nothing but sit on the couch and watch television(see also sofa spud)

Please don't lie around like a couch potato. Get up and do something productive.
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Heh heh. Yeah you got a point. I'll tell him when I see him again.
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as much as i want to troll you or something, i think your comment here just kind of takes care of itself.
whats wrong atari? cant handle me being right?

whoop whoop!!
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i think it looks... okay on a visual level. but i dont give a crap because i think the core gameplay is most likely to be there and it's going to be yummy
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they know we're all sonic fans. couldnt they at least have released it for the genesis??

they couldve gone the route of megaman 9, going back to the old school style seemed to work well for it.
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people have made one terribly good point in this thread though


jazz jackrabbit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sonic
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its not 2d

velfarre idk, it is just what everyone is saying. regardless it is what the fans wanted at the very least.

but yeah a 2.5d sonic with ugly models and features added after s3+k was not what a lot of people wanted. but yeah again i have had no faith in this since the start!! nice to be proved right whoop whoop!!
there's no such thing as 2.5-D
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Yeah there is, its' what people call 3d graphics on a 2d plane IE you don't get to interact with the z axis at all. 2.5d is more punchy. You knew that dietcoke.
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The only Sonic game I ever really got into was Sonic 2, I think, the one with Tails. Tails was awesome, and I always played the game with my best friend. Good memories. Other than playing next to a good friend, I find the Sonic games really boring. That's probably just me, though.
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there's no such thing as 2.5-D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2.5D

sorry next time i will type "a sonic game that uses a graphical technique to project uninteractive 3D graphics on an otherwise 2D plane" which will have the exact same effect as me just saying "a 2.5D sonic game".
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I'm sorry, I simply cannot in good conscience get behind this new addition to the Sonic franchise. Not only are SEGA persisting with the hideous next-gen Sonic design (you call those spikes? please) but the usage of S&K-era jump physics and coin movements, coupled with the reviled 'autodash' feature , make it impossible to see this as anything other than a deliberate slap in the face to the Sonic fan community. Get a grip, guys.
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hey i dont care about this at all therefore anyone who does is a DOOFUS!!!!!! losers

seriously complaining that it's 2.5d and looks kinda hideous is not an overly stupid thing to do. it DOES look pretty hideous, and the inclusion of dumb moves made up once the games started sucking IS a bad thing. i dont see how its different than complaining about any other game (which people also do!!)
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:welp: it still seems a little bizarre and petty honestly when if i remember right sonic games have been about werewolf sonic with a sword and dual pistols and some horrible elaborate canon garbage for the past decade or so and a deliberate attempt to go back to retro styleee is met with a pretty exaggerated UGGGHHHHHH over something pretty superficial. its like looking at those new monkey island games coming out and going GUYBRUSH HAS A GOATEE?? FEH..... CHILDHOOD STATUS: RAPED.
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Yeah there is, its' what people call 3d graphics on a 2d plane IE you don't get to interact with the z axis at all. 2.5d is more punchy. You knew that dietcoke.
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for real it doesn't look bad at all. It seems like it's following the New Super Mario Bros lead and that was a fantastic game that looked pretty nice.
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:welp: it still seems a little bizarre and petty honestly when if i remember right sonic games have been about werewolf sonic with a sword and dual pistols and some horrible elaborate canon garbage for the past decade or so and a deliberate attempt to go back to retro styleee is met with a pretty exaggerated UGGGHHHHHH over something pretty superficial. its like looking at those new monkey island games coming out and going GUYBRUSH HAS A GOATEE?? FEH..... CHILDHOOD STATUS: RAPED.
eh, all im saying is a goatee and the homing attack which was one of the worst choices in the dreamcast sonics are not on the same level.

and yes, all of those things you listed have happened, and are kinda why anything bad about this one seems 1000x worse than it probably is. they have destroyed any credibility of being able to make good games in the last 10 years!!