I remember a day when creative people had a genuine interest in expressing themselves through a genuine love of the products they are advertising. That love showed in the advertisements they produced and it was a golden age for everyone.

Now advertisers are only college graduates who are disgruntled about not doing more "creative" work and can only make advertisements that are ironic or cynical of the true joys brought to the world by consumerism. The people at the heads are trying to find those people who could make advertisements with genuine love in them, but all those men are now just as cynical as the college grads because they were pushed out on the streets to live as homeless bums because their positions had to be replaced by younger, more hip individuals.

I thought jamie meant making serious commercials for Big Business is kind of below them. because that's kinda true but these commercials don't represent their work and I wouldn't have known they made them if it wasn't stupid fricking unguided

otherwise who cares about any of this stuff. they've probably wanted to make real commercials for a long time, just going by everything they've done online and on adult swim. I mean you can tell they really wanted to make that nfl one. and unlike the fake commercials on their show or their site, these come out of nowhere and surprise you.

I don't think it's worth speculating what non-creative impulses they might have had for making these commercials, how much money they might have gained from these jobs, or how they ended up using this money. and who knows they could have put all their dough back into awesome show, which seemed to have some expensive stuff going on in the last two seasons. or maybe they just wanted to make some easy cash, I can't care when it's for stupid stuff like vodka or old spice. they're pretty much making fun of the product in every case anyway

is it just me or did their presence in check it out this week make the episode worse?

the pilot was great. i mean the whole restaurant segment and subsequent follow-up in the studio had me rolling and the sushi part was pretty good too but i was really looking forward to something like that where brule just interacts with people i've never heard of while he stutters and gets their names wrong. it felt like they were kinda monopolizing the already short time that reilly has to define a funny character, which would've been cool if they hadn't been doing the exact same shit they did in awesome show.

here is my opinion of check it out with steve brule:

hey guess what steve brule is not just a little behind preparation wise now but he is actually mentally disabled lmao. let's watch him as he wanders around LA with no purpose, no money, and no hope. lmao, spazzy.

guess what: i didn't like it.

is it just me or did their presence in check it out this week make the episode worse?

the pilot was great. i mean the whole restaurant segment and subsequent follow-up in the studio had me rolling and the sushi part was pretty good too but i was really looking forward to something like that where brule just interacts with people i've never heard of while he stutters and gets their names wrong. it felt like they were kinda monopolizing the already short time that reilly has to define a funny character, which would've been cool if they hadn't been doing the exact same shit they did in awesome show.

i agree with everything you said here.

it'd be pretty disappointing if the series is going to resemble the second episode rather than the first. i really like the steve brule character. it's pretty clear that reilly's goal has always been to play a very young boy in a grown man's body, who apparently learned everything about the world from watching television. it's a bit of a sad character when you get past the goofiness, because you kinda want him to figure it all out and be happy(which he evidently is not) but it's this inevitable loop of misconceptions and failures that prevent him from really being a functioning person. i always kinda felt like he was pretty separate from a lot of the awesome show characters in that you aren't really just supposed to laugh at brule as some absurd, scarcely human spectacle, but someone you kinda laugh at in the same way you'd laugh at some silly child proudly mispronouncing words and being generally confused by simple topics. kinda has the same function as yogi berra

the third episode of check it out is really good. pretty much on par with the first episode, probably because tim and eric weren't there to hog the on-screen time.

richard dunn passed away.

he was really good, too.

it's hard to see how doing commercials really furthers their career, though. i mean yeah, i obviously don't know their situation or why they chose to do it, but doing commercials is generally a SELLOUT sort of thing to do and not really the kind of thing creative people should really feel inspired to do if they can avoid it. it's using their creativity for a genuinely lame or unproductive cause. kinda makes them look like they don't really take a significant amount of pride in what they do and are a bit more concerned with the money end of it then any sort of artistic integrity they might have.

i don't think anybody really makes(or is making) a supremely big deal about this, since it isn't that big of a deal, it just generally reflects somewhat poorly on them. they don't appear to be starving at the moment and are having fairly successful careers, so this isn't exactly like orson welles not finding any decent work at all and kinda needing to do commercial work to stay afloat, especially considering how visibly halfheartedly welles took the responsibilities of doing commercials. for a long while i've kinda regarded tim and eric as not too serious about what they do, and them doing commercials kinda fortifies that notion. i'm pretty sure everybody in the creative business is at least peripherally aware that doing commercials is regarded as a crappy thing to do either willingly or by choice, so their choosing to do it amidst a strong point in their career probably shows that they don't really have much desire to be taken seriously, or perhaps have sufficient disrespect for the intelligence of their audience to think that they wouldn't really care. i find it kinda hard to side with a creative person that eagerly allies itself with some mega corporation's advertising campaign.

I was going to respond to this by pointing out that the Absolut commercials were pretty clearly mocking the product which I think is kind of respectable in its subversiveness but I am GREATLY DISAPPOINTED to learn that they actually directed those Old Spice commercials.  I remember seeing those on TV and thinking they were just weak attempts at Tim & Eric style humor but to learn that it IS Tim & Eric style humor just breaks.  my.  heart.  not necessarily because they're making commercials (although that's part of it) but because they really aren't very funny.  Hopefully they are doing it to pour the money back into their own projects like earl suggested in which case I don't have any issues with them doing this because it's not like HI I'M TIM HEIDECKER AND THIS IS MY OLD SPICE COMMERCIAL.  like they don't really seem to be trying to bank on their image to sell the product, although they are using a recognizable form of their humor so maybe that's not the best point to make?  I guess my point is that sometimes in order to finance the work you WANT to do you have to work on something you wouldn't normally do (david lynch, for example, has done a number of commercials that have helped him finance other projects, and he did dune so that he could do blue velvet I believe), and I'm HOPING that's the case here, but obviously I don't know for sure.  It's kind of a shame either way but that's the business I guess.

at the same time I don't want to give off the impression that I'm TOTALLY OK! with the idea of doing commercials.  because I'm not.  but I think it's kind of this unfortunate reality and as long as the motivation behind it is in the right place then it shouldn't reflect too poorly on the director. 

wow, i am really surprised richard dunn is dead. it felt like he was right in the middle of it all, and he has been posting on the internet and everything in the last few months so i thought his health was generally good. very sad to hear it.

i really liked richard dunn. tim and eric used to have the most interesting stuff for him to do. sure some of it kinda felt like they were just BOTHERING AN EXCEEDINGLY FRAIL OLD MAN, but i always thought they handled dunn the best of the show regulars(except for galifianakis, and i guess he counts). it was more along the lines of real sketch stuff, and his part of it made the show a lot better. he really was a perfect fit for what they were doing with the show.

anyway, i like how he pretty much made a little career for himself later in life by playing CRAZY OLD GUY and actually kinda hit it big. it's pretty sad that he died just as he started having a lot of luck and getting a following.

TIME

ps he wouldn't be dead if you faggots had sent him your bones like he fucking asked

gj killing richard dunn you bone misers

You're such a g00n buttkiller

g**n