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hero_bash

#1 May 18, 2010, 02:50:49 pm

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Am I the only one thinking braid sucks?

Apparently no.
http://www.gamesradar.com/f/beloved-games-we-hate/a-20090320114310208068/p-4

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Boring. Full-of-itself. Distilled snobbery. Tedious, frustrating and filled with laughably emo prose.

That’s how I feel about Braid, a game I excitedly bought and downloaded the very first day of release. I have made three separate attempts over the last seven months to give the game a fair shake, but its pretention and obliquely maddening puzzles turned me off every time. I realized I was forcing myself to like something just because everyone else loved it.

That’s the biggest problem with Braid: you're not allowed to hate it. I think many gamers and journalists honestly love this game, but I also believe that many jumped on a "games as art" bandwagon. Add to that all the press Braid’s creator, Jonathan Blow, got as the poor little auteur making it all by himself and, suddenly, you look like a cruel monster for criticizing it.

Braid may have fooled the world into liking it, but the avalanche of praise stops here. Not because I'm not getting the dense meanings of it - oh, the guy lost a girl, but in reality he is chasing this girl in reverse, accidentally making himself the hero and the villain of his own game! And oh, isn’t the stage layout just so chic with the Donkey Kong and Mario Bros. references!

Blargh. I may be glad that this game exists more than, say, a new Army Men title, but it needs to get over itself big time.

and um, soulja boy..

i'm almost ashamed to mention him

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#2 May 18, 2010, 03:02:50 pm

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If you ignore all the wanky nuclear bomb metaphors or whatever the fuck was going on it's a pretty game with well designed puzzles and a neat gimmick. What's to hate? That lots of people like it?

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Supra Mairo

#3 May 18, 2010, 03:06:15 pm

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It's about the most boring game I've played.

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#4 May 18, 2010, 03:35:12 pm

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Quote from: Supra Mairo on May 18, 2010, 03:06:15 pm

It's about the most boring game I've played.

whoa uh i get the diss on the whole indie/hipster game esthetics but really dude.

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#5 May 18, 2010, 03:48:48 pm

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Quote from: Hero Bash on May 18, 2010, 02:50:49 pm

and um, soulja boy.. i'm almost ashamed to mention him

How dare you say that! If soulja boy likes it, then fuck any other available opinion.

woooooooooooooooooooop!

Although seriously speaking, is there any actual reason it's called braid? Like, since it's so full of itself with pretentiousness and hidden meaning, I can only assume there is some kind of hidden connection you get to that title from actually playing the game, but with that name all I'm thinking is why isn't this game using the storyline for Rapunzel?

If they had instead called it "Braids" and replaced all those Donkey Kong references with Magic the Gathering references, I would be all over that shit.

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#6 May 18, 2010, 07:51:38 pm

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Quote from: EvilDemonCreature on May 18, 2010, 03:48:48 pm

Although seriously speaking, is there any actual reason it's called braid? Like, since it's so full of itself with pretentiousness and hidden meaning, I can only assume there is some kind of hidden connection you get to that title from actually playing the game, but with that name all I'm thinking is why isn't this game using the storyline for Rapunzel?

been a while since i played it but i seem to remember one of the first visuals in the game is the guy remembering a girl with a long braid (someone confirm this)

anyway braid is a great game what is you problems, dudes?????

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hero_bash

#7 May 18, 2010, 08:29:03 pm

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Personally my problem is not the game itself, I'm actually happy an indie game became successful and all that, I thought the gameplay, art were really great but I won't go as to praise it so much, since honestly I can't get 'into' it.

This is exactly how I felt about Braid:

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That’s the biggest problem with Braid: you're not allowed to hate it. I think many gamers and journalists honestly love this game, but I also believe that many jumped on a "games as art" bandwagon. Add to that all the press Braid’s creator, Jonathan Blow, got as the poor little auteur making it all by himself and, suddenly, you look like a cruel monster for criticizing it.

I mean you don't like it and you would get the 'you just don't get it' treatment. Maybe I don't? idk

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Jester

#8 May 18, 2010, 08:42:51 pm

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Then why hate the game, rather than just hate the fans? Fanboys are dumbasses but I don't see how that somehow detracts from the game?

Hardcore football fans are morons, but that doesn't affect my views on the game itself.

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hero_bash

#9 May 18, 2010, 08:53:59 pm

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I don't 'hate' it. But I don't exactly like it either, I mentioned gameplay (time rewind and puzzles) to be quite unique and that's great for creativity but as a game I didn't enjoy it or had 'fun' playing it. It's just not my taste.

But yea, I realized I'm quite guilty of having bias on judgement because of being affected by other things besides the game itself.

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Hundley

#10 May 19, 2010, 02:55:28 am

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braid didn't really do a lot for me either. i tried the demo and thought it was ok, but it didn't really strike me as some supremely special game. there have been a couple other indie side-scrollers that i enjoyed quite a bit more.

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Ryan

#11 May 19, 2010, 02:59:03 am

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boring game

its well made and well thought out but i dunno. a game that fundamentally isn't enjoyable or intriguing to me in any way is missing the point of why i play videogames

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Parker

#12 May 19, 2010, 03:49:36 am

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nobody show soulja boy portal he will lose his mind

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#13 May 19, 2010, 07:15:51 pm

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Braid was really average to me. I never really understood the hype, but I bought it anyway because of how much it was being talked about.

I don't know. Something about the graphics, the sound, the gameplay.. It just all equaled a very boring experience for me as a whole. The game was fine itself, I just couldn't make myself enjoy it.

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#14 May 19, 2010, 07:23:49 pm

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I'm going to play braid tonight. You guys better not be DEhyping this game up if that makes any sense. Soulja boy tell em'

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#15 May 19, 2010, 07:29:58 pm

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Quote from: Parker on May 19, 2010, 03:49:36 am

nobody show soulja boy portal he will lose his mind

Forgive me if I'm missing something, but I fail to see anything even remotely negative about this happening.

Well, unless someone fails to film it and post the results on the internet. That's literally the worst thing I could imagine happening from this hypothetical situation.

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hero_bash

#16 May 19, 2010, 07:57:10 pm

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nobody show soulja boy portal he will lose his mind

I would pay to see this

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Drule

#17 May 19, 2010, 09:10:29 pm

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Braid has a wonderful mood and atmosphere with a pretty sweet and relaxed puzzle gameplay. The visuals, audio and storytelling is cool, and the plot twist was a neat and ambitious touch for an indie game. Add to that that the game is one long-running subtle reference to the Manhattan Project that was first discovered months after the release.

What's there not to like? I'm having a hard time finding indie games that are better in any of these regards.

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#18 May 19, 2010, 09:28:40 pm

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I agree with drule, but I think the game does put it's foot in it's mouth from time to time. Hundley I'm curious about whatever games you are talking about. Aside from Iji and Cave Story, I think most indie side scrollers have fell far from par.

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#19 May 19, 2010, 09:34:06 pm

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bummer I never got around to beating it and now I have a decent idea about the ending's twist... than again I don't have much care in the story.

in any case, When I heard about it I rolled my eyes at a lot of the people hyping it up and the overall look of the game of it seemed "hey I'm indie" and that sort of thing actually tends to be a minus in my book. However the little that I played I found enjoyable.

Also, the gamesradar guy, I feel the same way about Silent Hill 2. I prefer the original, or 3 to Silent Hill 2. Oh and fuck that Wii remake of the original. they fucking butchered it.

Also Don't understand why everyone loved Time Splitters 2. The controls on that game blew and it felt really floaty.

Finally,

Quote from: Jester on May 18, 2010, 08:42:51 pm

Then why hate the game, rather than just hate the fans? Fanboys are dumbasses but I don't see how that somehow detracts from the game?

Hardcore football fans are morons, but that doesn't affect my views on the game itself.

I feel this way about Halo and its fans. I actually like most of Halo (the first one is probably my favorite FPS of all time, on console or the pc version) but most other fans that I know seemed kind of rabid and moronic. (also fuck matchmaking)

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#20 May 19, 2010, 10:00:16 pm

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Also by just skimming over that gamesradar I can only assume this guy has no idea what he is talking about and just made this article to score sum web hitzzzz kind of like when ign or whoever the fuck claimed ff7 was one of the 10 worst games of all time. Dumb article, and why even attack an indie game? Just kind of pointless. I was thinking about reading the article cause maybe they have something intelligent to say but from that little cut out about braid this guy just seems angry that something is popular. Of course idiots are going to look too much into it or put it on a pedestal or whatever, why the hell does that matter. It's just dumb and I guess this article kind of made me angry for some reason! And I didn't even read it!

And I don't even like braid that much, I thought it was good, and it did what it was supposed to and didn't jerk around or try to be something it's not. It's a simple game so jeesh why go though so much trouble trying to bring it down a few pegs, does it really matter? The problem I have is really he didn't even review the game, he just said he didn't like because other people liked it too much. Which is dumb, it brings just as little to the table as people saying it's the best thing since sliced bread.

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