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Hello everyone.

My laptop broke a few weeks ago so I have mostly been browsing GW from my phone here and there. I also just graduated from college a week ago and have been in SAYING BYE TO FRIENDS / PARTYING mode.

Congratulations ase!


I'm not sure what your point is, but we're not trying to steal, destroy or ignore anything. GW has been dead for a few years, so we're just trying to find a way to carry on the GW spirit and preserve some content.

Bullshit, GW hasn't been dead. If that would be true it would've been dead all the time I've been here, and I've gotten a surprisingly lot of things from a dead site. Actually, now that I've gotten over everybody claiming that GW is dying and seen how things are paced here, I have come to the startling realization that there's nothing wrong with GW. It could be better, it could be more active, it could have a mainsite, but really we're doing fine.

I couldn't care less for your completely uninteresting rpgmaker-style game making or your stubborn attempts to get a community around it. I don't know who the hell is interested in that, but it doesn't hurt me either, so go ahead. What makes me angry is that in the making of this new community you are ripping GW apart, just because you still think GW is what it apparently was years ago. You're ripping GW apart, while claiming that you're saving it, even though in it's present state GW is producing topics, projects and discussion that are both fun and interesting at a better rate than any other internet community I know.

So go ahead and build your new Astrojone, I'm not interested but I wish you well. Just accept the fact that this community is past that and leave GW out of your plans. You're trying to stuff it to a hole that it doesn't fit and I'm afraid that while doing that you might break it. You are, after all, the admin here.
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its not dead its just not as productive as it used to be because no one gives a shit because no one new is viewing/coming to the site so its pretty much the same bullshit all the time

I want a new site but not exclusively about fucking game making that shit is so limited
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I think we should hire some 14 year olds with nothing better to do to create content for GW
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I'll not TAKE ANYTHING you write like this seriously because it looks dumb
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Bullshit, GW hasn't been dead. If that would be true it would've been dead all the time I've been here, and I've gotten a surprisingly lot of things from a dead site. Actually, now that I've gotten over everybody claiming that GW is dying and seen how things are paced here, I have come to the startling realization that there's nothing wrong with GW. It could be better, it could be more active, it could have a mainsite, but really we're doing fine.

I couldn't care less for your completely uninteresting rpgmaker-style game making or your stubborn attempts to get a community around it. I don't know who the hell is interested in that, but it doesn't hurt me either, so go ahead. What makes me angry is that in the making of this new community you are ripping GW apart, just because you still think GW is what it apparently was years ago. You're ripping GW apart, while claiming that you're saving it, even though in it's present state GW is producing topics, projects and discussion that are both fun and interesting at a better rate than any other internet community I know.

So go ahead and build your new Astrojone, I'm not interested but I wish you well. Just accept the fact that this community is past that and leave GW out of your plans. You're trying to stuff it to a hole that it doesn't fit and I'm afraid that while doing that you might break it. You are, after all, the admin here.
Well, GW is dead in the sense that it barely has any activities and that there is not much interest in the members to discuss or create content aside from the few topics that show up in G&D and the occasional Troubadours album. If you don't think this is a bad thing then that is fine. I know a lot of "dead" website that are still active in the same sense (Home of the Underdogs is a good example) but I don't think most people would consider this a good thing. Every community site I know of that has eventually died out has been in a similar lingering oldbie state before everybody stops caring and the site is shut down due to inactivity.

This new website is probably not going to affect your browsing of GW more than in that you'll be able to use your GW account on the new website, and that when GW is put down you'll have somewhere else to go that is at least somewhat similar. :-)

I don't know what's ticking you off about this idea but I hope this post clears things up.
Last Edit: June 03, 2010, 07:08:43 pm by Drule
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Well, GW is dead in the sense that it barely has any activities and that there is not much interest in the members to discuss or create content aside from the few topics that show up in G&D and the occasional Troubadours album. If you don't think this is a bad thing then that is fine. I know a lot of "dead" website that are still active in the same sense (Home of the Underdogs is a good example) but I don't think most people would consider this a good thing. Every community site I know of that has eventually died out has been in a similar lingering oldbie state before everybody stops caring and the site is shut down due to inactivity.

This new website is probably not going to affect your browsing of GW more than in that you'll be able to use your GW account on the new website, and that when GW is put down you'll have somewhere else to go that is at least somewhat similar. :-)

I don't know what's ticking you off about this idea.

Gazzwa telling about his trip to South America is content. Mark making joke posts is content. Taft Talk is content. Reading about Velfarre's new dog is content. Ragnar talking about why old games are better is content. Chef & Co's minecraft adventures are a hell of a lot content. And Troubs is content too.

Of course everybody would like to see more of all that, and more of G&D projects too. However, if this site really would be dying like you say, then the only sensible thing to do would be to get all these people that make up this community to get posting and get more active in whatever way fits them. As you can see from my list there, those ways are pretty diverse. If that can't be made to happen then so be it, GW is dead. It's dead because the people how made it are not interested in it anymore, a natural death. Forcing it on some specific path that isn't natural for the people here anymore (rpgmaker stuff) to keep it alive by any means necessary is not going to help. Instead it will alienate people, possibly divide the community and so make sure GW really dies.
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I pretty much agree with marge but I'm not sure anything like this can actually kill gw/newsite even if it fails, as long as we've got a place like these forums. on the other hand if the forums are transformed into this we're dead meat

also I think we can have lots of game engine stuff as long as it doesn't overshadow the actual creation/final product side of things, and all that stuff Marge mentioned is still an important part of this new community. and by important, I mean not buried under all that game engine stuff. I don't see why we can't have both, and I don't see why we need to identify as singularly an indie game engine game making indie site for that to be a successful part of the future community and a successful tool for creating a new use for the site and providing new content to keep us in the game and on the radar, if that's what you wanna do
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also I think we can have lots of game engine stuff as long as it doesn't overshadow the actual creation/final product side of things, and all that stuff Marge mentioned is still an important part of this new community. and by important, I mean not buried under all that game engine stuff. I don't see why we can't have both, and I don't see why we need to identify as singularly an indie game engine game making indie site for that to be a successful part of the future community and a successful tool for creating a new use for the site and providing new content to keep us in the game and on the radar, if that's what you wanna do
yeah, i agree with this


In response to Marge:

- No one said anything about GW going toward an RPG Maker path... at least, I don't think any of us did

- Probably the biggest reason we are doing this is because Bart is not interested in paying for/hosting the server much longer so, as much as you might like to keep GW the way it is, it is going to DIE in the most literal sense of the word (as applicable to websites) quite soon.

- I can speak for myself, at least, in saying that all of those people and stories you mentioned are awesome and I don't want to lose any of that creativity. I don't really understand what is prompting you to think that by moving GW to another server and trying to get a few more members to join by emphasizing game design/creation is going to make all of that go away.
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It might just be how Drule has been saying things, but to clarify what I meant in that part of my post you quoted, it DOES sound like we're going to be losing that stuff, placing it in the back seat to concentrate on our new primary focus (indie game dev stuff). if we do that, I do think we're going to slowly lose the best thing gw ever had
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This is in no way an attempt to revive GW.

 Which is what's wrong with this picture.

If you want to retain the existing structure and items while adding additional content, or even moved it to a new server and add additional people to run the site, do so, but don;t alter the core  or throw away the existing stuff just because you think the old makers aren't popular any more. To use an odd metaphor- keep the same skeleton, but add new flesh and a few more limbs. Move it to a new house if you want to , but it should still be the same animal underneath.

Earlchjip, yes,. We can expand our focus to include these other things  without losing what's already there.
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Then a new body, but with the old mind, and some upgrades. Ase, we're a little afraid that a shift in emphasis is going to change the makeup of things, thereby precipitating a sea change into something unrecognizable. Move things if you must, add more people and topics, but keep the primary focus the same- merely WIDEN it.
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you are making this unnecessarily dramatic with your cunning metaphors
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THIS YEAR

ONE WEBSITE

WILL CHANGE THE COURSE OF HISTORY

DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN-DUN
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I once dreamt that my children and my children's children would have a gaming world where they could post their crappy RPG Maker games! This dream has come to pass.
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you are making this unnecessarily dramatic with your cunning metaphors
You may be right. All I ask is that you try to keep what's good about this site when you move to the next one so the legacy will continue.  Please merge the current GW into the new site in a sense.
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I still don't really see what the problem is here. If you could maybe be more specific about what is wrong with creating this new website.
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Creating a new website is inherently wrong!!!
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Then a new body, but with the old mind, and some upgrades. Ase, we're a little afraid that a shift in emphasis is going to change the makeup of things, thereby precipitating a sea change into something unrecognizable. Move things if you must, add more people and topics, but keep the primary focus the same- merely WIDEN it.

We can rebuild him! we have the technology but don't want to waste much money!



Anyway, what kinda frustrates me is people who say GW isnt dead, when they have only been around since 2008 onward.
Yes theres still life breathing in the forum, any forum with such a close community such as ours will keep beating somewhat, But its absolutly nothing compared to what GW was back when it was booming.. We are basically a forum on life support for the last few years, with a few failed surgeries,  think of the new site as a restructure of the GW body n mind and help get it off life support! :fogetbackflip:
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