Topic: sonic youth (Read 479 times)

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lee ranaldo is coming to my city next saturday, i'm going to check out his exhibition. i have no idea what to think of it from the description though:

http://www.scotiabanknuitblanche.ca/exhibition.aspx?zone=B&rowID=2&cur=Anthony%20Kiendl
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you don't need to like all good music. there's a lot of music i don't really feel like listening to but that doesn't mean it's bad. sonic youth is one of those bands nowadays. i used to listen to them some years ago and even though i was never that much into them, i did enjoy the albums i had (daydream nation, evol, sister, goo and washing machine, still got those actually) but i just don't feel like listening to them anymore. i still acknowledge it's good music though. basically i'm just saying you shouldn't force yourself to like something if you don't feel like it just as long as you don't make any stupid and ignorant comments (all rap sux). not saying you shouldn't check out sonic youth if you never tried though! catamites' post is a good way to get started.

If I gave off the impression that I thought they were bad I apologize. I was merely saying I just didn't really get it. And I did read the catamite's  post, but I thought that was more helpful to people who already liked them but didn't know much of their stuff as opposed to someone who didn't really understand them but wanted to try. I'm assuming Daydream Nation would be the best place for me to start, but as I've heard some stuff from that and still was kind of "meh" towards I was just asking if there was a better option for people like me.
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no one's forcing you to like them, listen to whatever you think is good bra
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If I gave off the impression that I thought they were bad I apologize. I was merely saying I just didn't really get it. And I did read the catamite's  post, but I thought that was more helpful to people who already liked them but didn't know much of their stuff as opposed to someone who didn't really understand them but wanted to try. I'm assuming Daydream Nation would be the best place for me to start, but as I've heard some stuff from that and still was kind of "meh" towards I was just asking if there was a better option for people like me.
No, you weren't giving me that impression. I was just saying that if you have listened to them and didn't get them, that's alright. You don't need to like them. You were just kinda giving me a vibe that you might be trying too hard to like something which isn't your cup of tea when you said they are one of the bands you "should" like. You can give their albums a few listens over time and see if it grows on you and if not, then that's fine. You can return to their stuff maybe in a year and see if you like it then. There's no point in forcing yourself to like them like flowerpower said. There have been countless bands I didn't initially like and I just let it be and later on they clicked with me but never because I was trying to like them. Just keep an open mind.
Last Edit: September 27, 2010, 05:25:39 am by Ghost_Daddy
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If I gave off the impression that I thought they were bad I apologize. I was merely saying I just didn't really get it. And I did read the catamite's  post, but I thought that was more helpful to people who already liked them but didn't know much of their stuff as opposed to someone who didn't really understand them but wanted to try. I'm assuming Daydream Nation would be the best place for me to start, but as I've heard some stuff from that and still was kind of "meh" towards I was just asking if there was a better option for people like me.
ugh i came off bit of a dick unintentionally so sorry! i really haven't listened to sonic youth like AT ALL, two songs off from confusion is sex and long time ago couple songs off from daydream nation and i was underwhelmed of the pop.

let me explain why i did what i did: to me, it sounded like you had a prejudice on an artist/band + were lost with the band’s big discography so you asked us to ‘prove you wrong’ to put it jokingly heh and that's fair game since these hoodlums know their sonic youth.
except that…  the only way to ‘make you like it’ would be by showing something from them that was more in YOUR area of good musicality eg. more conventional sense of melodiness? or alternatively get confirmation that you are right about your hunch.  prejudiced expectations based on to sticking to your sense of what is good music too much. cognitive dissonance... so i made a lazy & harmless jokepost about this. didn't mean it to be the shitty gw elite flaming or whatever!

this is not to say that you can’t like music your way (however you can even determine it) and of course DragonSlayer is dead-on about forcing to like stuff (basically breastfeeding opinions without putting effort into thinking of them (steel says…)) but a lot of what MAKES music worthwhile is perceptions and seeing into other people’s views - through songs and discussions - and to relate to them. likewise, a lot of good/worthwhile music discussion is usually about seeing into other people’s perception of things and to learn from them. music is… mutually benefiting for all sides I suppose!

but a lot of this is pretty redundant anyways because you already pointed out that you just haven't listened to them much and that the initial impression wasn't good or that you possibly didn't understand what you heard. if you want to understand, catamites' post is still pretty good regardless since despite popularity (with their more accesible records) sonic youth is good! adhsdghasgh aaaaaaa whatever in reality ramci reflected and saw him in you, dissing david bowie and i was like no...NO...GRUNT.... *mucles bulge*

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*groaaaaan* ds or dx either of you point out that my post doesn't make sense and i'll swear, i...i'll fucking rip ya...


sorry if that post doesn't make sense i've only got 4½h of sleep!!
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There are also a bunch of b-sides, different versions, and "unreleased" songs that used to be available through their website. (Scratch that, I just checked. They still have some stuff up, but it looks like it is only a fraction of what they used to have...)

Confusion is Sex and Washing Machine are two of my favorites, but I also rate NYC Ghosts and Flowers up there pretty high, if only as a bit of contrast to their other stuff.

In my opinion, Sonic Nurse is better than Murray Street in pretty much every conceivable way. I'd mark Murray Street as their weakest release in the last ten years, but even it still has some good stuff on it.

My recommendation would be "get everything and learn to love it," but I might be a little biased, considering I always keep one of my guitars tuned to the "Brother James" tuning.
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