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So here's the deal.  I built a desktop in like 2004.  It was really high-end at the time.  I upgraded it a few times over the years but it's now on its last legs and I'm ready to build a new machine.  But, I haven't known what hardware was the newest, best or w/e shit since...2004.  So, I figure you guys can help me out.  I want to say right away that I don't want a gaming rig.  Sure, I play some PC games, but almost all of them are so old/low tech that they could have run on the exact machine I built in 2004 so it'd take more effort to build a new machine that doesn't run them.  I have to emphasize this because most of the people posting on here do ask about gaming machines and this is not what I want at all.

What I do want is a machine that will edit video nicely.  My current machine runs Adobe Premiere but it's very slow and won't play back HD clips at all.  If I want to edit HD video I have to play the raw footage elsewhere and figure out the times and jesus this is terrible I want a machine that will do this as well as it can.  Though I will use this desktop for all sorts of things, almost everything else I do doesn't require any special consideration when building it.  So the only real focus I have to have is making a machine that will do this editing as good as it can.  I'm not sure what parts I should prioritize for this, so that's up to you dudes to help with.

I am going to be using the harddrive from my current machine because I bought it fairly recently so it's got nothing wrong with it.  Also, I'd be perfectly content to keep the Nvidia 8400 GS video card IF AND ONLY IF it's not one of the factors slowing video editing down.  I'm not sure what part of it is the bottleneck with playing back high quality video, but if it's not this video card I don't want to bother paying for a different one. 

I also don't need monitor/keyboard/whatever like that, I don't need a disk drive and I'll be picking out a case on my own.  So I guess the biggest thing is that I need a motherboard/CPU/RAM/power supply combo.  I'll probably have $500-$700 to spend, I'm not 100% sure yet because my mom's the one buying it for me but that's what I'm guessing.  Obviously I don't want to spend more than I actually have to, but I don't want to cut corners and regret it later (I also don't know what parts cost anymore).  I'm planning on getting the parts from newegg so please use their prices.  Other than these things, just GO AT IT help me out GW.
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sorry dada i already have one of these

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So here's the deal.  I built a desktop in like 2004.  It was really high-end at the time.  I upgraded it a few times over the years but it's now on its last legs and I'm ready to build a new machine.  But, I haven't known what hardware was the newest, best or w/e shit since...2004.  So, I figure you guys can help me out.  I want to say right away that I don't want a gaming rig.  Sure, I play some PC games, but almost all of them are so old/low tech that they could have run on the exact machine I built in 2004 so it'd take more effort to build a new machine that doesn't run them.  I have to emphasize this because most of the people posting on here do ask about gaming machines and this is not what I want at all.

What I do want is a machine that will edit video nicely.  My current machine runs Adobe Premiere but it's very slow and won't play back HD clips at all.  If I want to edit HD video I have to play the raw footage elsewhere and figure out the times and jesus this is terrible I want a machine that will do this as well as it can.  Though I will use this desktop for all sorts of things, almost everything else I do doesn't require any special consideration when building it.  So the only real focus I have to have is making a machine that will do this editing as good as it can.  I'm not sure what parts I should prioritize for this, so that's up to you dudes to help with.

I am going to be using the harddrive from my current machine because I bought it fairly recently so it's got nothing wrong with it.  Also, I'd be perfectly content to keep the Nvidia 8400 GS video card IF AND ONLY IF it's not one of the factors slowing video editing down.  I'm not sure what part of it is the bottleneck with playing back high quality video, but if it's not this video card I don't want to bother paying for a different one. 

I also don't need monitor/keyboard/whatever like that, I don't need a disk drive and I'll be picking out a case on my own.  So I guess the biggest thing is that I need a motherboard/CPU/RAM/power supply combo.  I'll probably have $500-$700 to spend, I'm not 100% sure yet because my mom's the one buying it for me but that's what I'm guessing.  Obviously I don't want to spend more than I actually have to, but I don't want to cut corners and regret it later (I also don't know what parts cost anymore).  I'm planning on getting the parts from newegg so please use their prices.  Other than these things, just GO AT IT help me out GW.

Most video editing and rendering uses processing power a good CPU is a must and the newer Nvidia card are suppose to act like virtual processes. I'll post more letter I don't feel like putting one together today.
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I lied I made one you said you wanted cheep so a AMD will save you money (and may stop me from blowing your budget) for slight trade off on speed but that's about it.Also the HD video problem that you have maybe card related so a batter card will help you on that.


Mother Board
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128444
$109.99
Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849
$265.99
Video
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125333
$234.99
Ram<-----------I have them my self and they work fine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227424
$164.99

And you can do the power Supply (I am assuming you know how to pick one out and if not then I will do that tomorrow too tired for this shit) but be warned NVIDIA's new cards eat a lot of power at full loads.

Also Note: I know with the power supply your slightly over budget but you could tweek it down the processor to a AMD 4x and save you a bit and maybe it would put it back on track.

Last Edit: October 11, 2010, 03:21:42 am by DDay
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Jesus that video card looks like overkill.  Also I should have mentioned it before but I'd really prefer to go Intel and not AMD.  I've had both in the past and was much happier with Intel, even if it means paying more.
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Jesus that video card looks like overkill.  Also I should have mentioned it before but I'd really prefer to go Intel and not AMD.  I've had both in the past and was much happier with Intel, even if it means paying more.

Ok well 6 core is out of the question since the Intel counter part is 1000$. :blarg:

And as for the video card it's not really overkill I pick this one out of the rest because it has 2 fans(and a good range of reviews) I hear that they run hot so 2 fans will keep this bad boy at bay at least some what also it's a Fermi card so it will boost your processing power and if your talking about the size then note that most of the newer cards now a days are big.

I hope you know princess your making this harder now since a good board for Intel is more too :(

I'll do all this tomorrow I need some sleep.
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Woah I didn't even see SIX CORE PROCESSOR good lord DDay I do not think you are exactly thinking about my needs within my budget here (are quad cores even a standard thing yet???)

DDay sometimes you have to consider a woman's needs....... :fogetnah:
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Woah I didn't even see SIX CORE PROCESSOR good lord DDay I do not think you are exactly thinking about my needs within my budget here (are quad cores even a standard thing yet???)

DDay sometimes you have to consider a woman's needs....... :fogetnah:

Let me explain this better to you since yesterday I was tired.

Video editing, photo shop and even 3D rendering relies on more Processor Power more then anything else so if you would like something that dose all these things then a good Processor is a must. and ram goes hand to hand with this since the processor sends information to and thru the ram 

As for play back of videos (witch is probably your card) and also gaming relies more on the video card. (I know you don't want this but your in luck most NVIDIA cards geared towards editing then playing games but since I'm recemanding you something newer it can also play newer games it's just one of the draw backs not like I'm aiming for it) But I can go cheaper but I would  still like to give you a Fermi Card but my cheaper option has mixed reviews normally on the cheapness it was made.

Yes six core is a bit over kill but AMD have them on the cheep but Intel on the other hand doesn't and also to answer your question I would say 4 core is the standard now a day since it's last gen technology so it's cheaper then it was.

I'll re-post my Revised list in a bit.

CPU
$208.99
My Thoughts:A cheep 4 core at least to Intel standers and I didn't read the reviews till now and saw it doesn't support tir channel ram but I was in luck and found a quad channel ram set at cheaper price about 20$ less and 2 more GB of ram. 

Mother Board
$129.99
My Thoughts: The mother board is compatible with the Processor


Video
$129.99
My Thoughts:I tried to find a cheaper card that had Firmi and it's not as powerful then the other one I suggested but it will do and meat your needs... I hope.

Ram
 $149.99
My Thoughts: CPU said it all I was only aiming for 6 GB of ram but found out that it won't work so I was reduced to going quad or duo ram set up but found a deal for 4 sticks of ram for 20$ cheaper then Tri ram set I originally planed so it was a no brainier

PSU
$109.99
My Thoughts:750W is a good amount of power and made by a reliable company. My reasoning for getting a 750W I don't know what the video card will take at full loads I hear all firmi cards takes a lot but 750W should be able to handle it and should have enough pins to do the job.

To get everything it will come to $725.95 without tax and shipping.
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Done I hope it meets your womanly needs.
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dday i mean i thank you for your efforts but i was incredibly serious about $500-$700, $700 is the absolute ABSOLUTE max I would pay.
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dday i mean i thank you for your efforts but i was incredibly serious about $500-$700, $700 is the absolute ABSOLUTE max I would pay.

That easy to fix with a change of the processor to bad I had to step it down too a dual core :( and it uses the same socket. but since your not using a 4 core I don't think you need a 8 GB of ram is needed since CPU will bottle neck the ram and may never get to us it.... maybe at max 6GB if your running windows 7 64bit which I don't think you are so.

CPU
$124.99
Ram
$109.99

Making it under $700 by almost $100

And if this isn't fine then tell me what are the specs on your computer now because I don't know what I'm improving upon if I have to go any-lower since because I'm getting the hint that all you really want to do is trade in your piece of shit for another piece of shit at this point.

What I mean to say if your old computer has a 2 core already I'm doing nothing better then what your computer is doing before I need to know where to cut off on lowering the spec too meet your needs. Hell I'm not sure if you old Video card could handle new Mother board chip sets since It maybe obsolete and they might not make ports for that now. First question I have about the video card is it PCI Express? But to be honest I do think it will hold it back a Computer is only as good as it's worst component and I'm not sure if there is something going bad on that card in the first place.
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CPU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115214

Motherboard:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131662

RAM:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145278

There is a problem here in that I don't know how RAM heavy video editing can get. If you notice you're constantly hitting a 4GB limit, then I'd recommend dropping 6GB in instead. I usually build with 4GB, but I don't do any heavy editing and the only time I've maxed it is when I opened a bajillion pictures at once. If you're editing HD video though, this could be a problem (although easily remedied by buying another stick!).

GPU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150467

This is really optional, but I thought it might be nice to have something with a little more kick. You will be able to game with this card, but it's not going to max Crysis or anything.

PSU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171052

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Subtotal:   $634.9

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Alternatives would be to grab an i5 instead of the i7 I have listed. The GPU can be dropped or exchanged for something like a 5550 (which iirc is comparable to the 8400). I don't know if you have anything against ATI GPUs. I am not knowledgeable about the newer Nvidia cards, so you may want to look elsewhere for information about them.
Last Edit: October 11, 2010, 09:07:52 pm by Farmrush
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I've never had an ATI card but I doubt I'd have any sort of problem with it.  I would have no problem going for 4GB and seeing how it does, and getting more in the future if I needed it.  This looks p. nice and within my budget!
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I've never had an ATI card but I doubt I'd have any sort of problem with it.  I would have no problem going for 4GB and seeing how it does, and getting more in the future if I needed it.  This looks p. nice and within my budget!

That's good and I really recommend at least a 4 core Processor anyways. If I Knew I could of used a video card outside of Nvida I would of since they make good cards for cheaper price but nothing that helps give the edge on editing but mah!

Hell If your only using 2 ram sticks you could use my 2nd CPU recommendation but remember it doesn't have tri channel ram support but the price is lower by about 70$ bucks. Here is a comparison
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The i7 has hyperthreading which will be noticeable when you're doing video editing, but the i5 760 is a good candidate too.

Here is the comparison:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/109?vs=108

The difference is not huge, but it is consistent.
Last Edit: October 11, 2010, 09:50:49 pm by Farmrush
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Welp I'm ordering my stuff tonight.  Going with the parts Farmrush suggested since they fit nicely into my budget, but I'll probably get some more RAM sometime in the future.  Took forever to explain to my dad that he couldn't have my old computer because the fact that it was entirely unusable was the reason I wanted a new one in the first place.  Been ages since I put a computer together so wish me luck dudes!


(who wants to place bets on how many times i cut my hands open while doing it?  i cannot open a computer case without slicing myself on a bit of metal before i'm through)
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Welp I'm ordering my stuff tonight.  Going with the parts Farmrush suggested since they fit nicely into my budget, but I'll probably get some more RAM sometime in the future.  Took forever to explain to my dad that he couldn't have my old computer because the fact that it was entirely unusable was the reason I wanted a new one in the first place.  Been ages since I put a computer together so wish me luck dudes!


(who wants to place bets on how many times i cut my hands open while doing it?  i cannot open a computer case without slicing myself on a bit of metal before i'm through)

That's only because your emo and you need the attention.

Also about the GPU when you get it I suggest you register it right away so you can the lifetime warranty since I think they only give you 2 weeks to do so. (or less I can't remember.)
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Thanks for that tip, I'll look into it.

Also I'm just really clumsy.  I end up either pulling or pushing on a part too hard or something and bumping my hand against the metal bits every single time :(​  Cases can be really sharp
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Thanks for that tip, I'll look into it.

Also I'm just really clumsy.  I end up either pulling or pushing on a part too hard or something and bumping my hand against the metal bits every single time :(​  Cases can be really sharp

Yes they can be but some cases have the Sharpe comers covered or removed. But that's only some. What case are you going with?

Also the motherboard that your getting is a bit concerning with that 1 review....
Last Edit: October 13, 2010, 08:52:17 pm by DDay
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