Topic: What's on your mind 2010 the Next Generation (Read 170357 times)

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Disregard this entire post. Listen to it all. It's all awesome. I have binged on Octahedron this year.

I subsequently binged on At The Drive In too. Listen to Enfilade.

I really enjoyed Tremulant, De-Loused and Frances... I just kind of gave up on the band when Amputechture came out. I just picked up Octahedron though, and I'm really enjoying it. The lack of saxophone and "random disconnected seven minute jam in the middle of a song that really didn't need it" are helping with my appreciation of it.

Enfilade is great, but I'm a little more partial to Quarantined. It and Heliotrope were the first two ATDI songs I heard, so they were pretty much responsible for getting me hooked.
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Didn't we have a dumpster diving topic a little bit ago?  Anyways, appalling at what people throw away.
http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/showthread.php?83371-Dumpster-Diving/page24
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zappa smoked weed like twice and didn't like it. He was very anti-drugs, and kicked napoleon murphey brock out of the mothers because he was doing coke (but then spoke with him again in the end of the 80's as he'd stopped doing it). So don't worry Ramci, Zappa didn't do drugs 8) 8D
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zappa smoked weed like twice and didn't like it. He was very anti-drugs, and kicked napoleon murphey brock out of the mothers because he was doing coke (but then spoke with him again in the end of the 80's as he'd stopped doing it). So don't worry Ramci, Zappa didn't do drugs 8) 8D
All the fake controversy that surrounded Zappa during his life is made extra painful when you consider that he was an incredibly smart, well spoken and politically conscious individual. Those who see him as "just a crazy rocker" should watch his testimony before the Senate on what he considered a road to the censoring of records. He was also on Crossfire at some point to talk about "the content of lyrics". Before his death he was planning on increasing his involvement in politics and it's a shame we never got to see that.
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That Crossfire show was pretty amazing because he was just running circles around his opponent and knew so much more about what was going on. He was a genius, like in "The Real Frank Zappa Book" he talks about his plans for a method of dispensing music which is, well basically itunes... in the 80's!
He does kinda have himself to blame for his public image though, because from the get go he deliberately crafted that image and it's really absurd that even before forming the mothers he seemed to have everything planned out.
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That Crossfire show was pretty amazing because he was just running circles around his opponent and knew so much more about what was going on. He was a genius, like in "The Real Frank Zappa Book" he talks about his plans for a method of dispensing music which is, well basically itunes... in the 80's!
Yeah, as I recall it the service failed (obviously, there just was no good infrastructure for it) but it was pretty amazingly forward thinking of him to have tried.

edit: hahaha awesome, just reading his Wikipedia page now and apparently he dissed the ADL back in 1979: Zappa vehemently denied any anti-Semitic sentiments and dismissed the ADL as a "noisemaking organization that tries to apply pressure on people in order to manufacture a stereotype image of Jews that suits their idea of a good time".
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Al Gore invented the internet Frank Zappa invented itunes

oh yeah other thing I still like about Japan what was the deal with that BS SYSTEM whatever it was called it was like a version of the SNES where you could play against other people online, or download games or something. even if only 10000 people in Japan used it it's like lol Japan doing stuff 10/15 years before everyone else we don't care how risky and stupid a business venture is someone in japans will do it we will fund ourselves with stolen Yakuza gold. I consider it like hyper-American or something this is the stupid crap we're supposed to be doing to be PIONEERS even if it destroys our lives we just have to see if we can market cheeseburger-flavoured ice cream condoms for turtles
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the pioneer thing is true ragnar.

my sister got a top secret beta-clif bar in the mail today, it was sent out only to the most devoted clif bar followers
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the pioneer thing is true ragnar.

my sister got a top secret beta-clif bar in the mail today, it was sent out only to the most devoted clif bar followers

I have the beta version of "Poky Little Puppy"
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Al Gore invented the internet Frank Zappa invented itunes

oh yeah other thing I still like about Japan what was the deal with that BS SYSTEM whatever it was called it was like a version of the SNES where you could play against other people online, or download games or something. even if only 10000 people in Japan used it it's like lol Japan doing stuff 10/15 years before everyone else we don't care how risky and stupid a business venture is someone in japans will do it we will fund ourselves with stolen Yakuza gold. I consider it like hyper-American or something this is the stupid crap we're supposed to be doing to be PIONEERS even if it destroys our lives we just have to see if we can market cheeseburger-flavoured ice cream condoms for turtles

yeah there was a thing in that gamepro blog i did about this.  nowadays if we can't get games beamed to our houses we think consoles are shit but back then they did this and people were like "what???? no i'm not going to get that why would i"

it's like how the 3do played music CDs and iirc VCDs too if you had some sort of extra thing and nowadays we expect our consoles to do this kind of stuff (the wii doesn't play DVDs??? WHY NOT HOW DUMB!!!).  it even worked as a karaoke machine which i don't remember seeing since then (but i guess with games like rock band and singstar or w/e it's redundant).  but back then it was one of the things that made the console so expensive and nobody wanted to buy it.  i wonder how much more game consoles would do if there weren't so many financial failures from things like this.  i guess it's easier to take risks now than it was then because everyone's a gamer now instead of it being a secret culture of nerds but at the same time who knows game companies are probably having fantastic ideas that we'd all love every day but they aren't using them because they might not sell well.  where did this post go.  i don't know how i got from there to here now.
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thing is companies took way more risks back then, because it wasn't the multi-billion pound market it is now. Like Nintendo had a stream of failures, it set them back money but they kept on doing it. Some of their stuff caught on(analogue control, rumble) and some didn't (virtua boy, that dumb gauntlet from that 80's flick).
I think Sony were the ones who kinda started by NOT TAKING ANY RISKS AT ALL and have continued down that path to major, if extremely bland success. Like playstation vs N64, the N64 had pretty innovative games that set standards (as well as some total dross) but very few psx games did anything substantially new.
Go back further, Sega with the MegaCD and 32X addons for the Megadrive. That kinda composite system was deemed a failure, but now you can get upgraded harddrives for your consoles, extended motion controllers, Wireless adaptors etc which totally change them. But after the megadrive, Sega went to p[lay safe with the Saturn and failed, then tried something new with the dreamcast (online gaming? on a console??) and failed because by then the industry and market had esentially become a bunch of people in grey suits. And the retro fandom had already kicked in.
Now every action is so carefully watched and market trends are followed that there is no risk. Like when the wii came out, they knew there would be no risk at all if they marketed it towards the pensioners and middle-aged-people-who-dont-get-out-much(ie my parents), and they did that, and low and behold it sold. There was no risk other than that percieved by 'gamers', and that is because 'gamers' generally dislike anything new unless it's a graphics processor, or a new retro game(????).
(though keep in mind, I dislike the wii)
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It's like that whole music market thing. Record companies in the 60's would just release anything and not care. If it sold, they'd sign em up for more, and if it didn't then they wouldn't. However they got the interns to say their opinions on what the kids would listen to because hey! they've got the same hair!
Now those interns are heads of the companies and are in charge of all the crap that's being released, because they know it will sell to kids, because they've seen the market data and because they were kids. Hey, they used to have the same hair!
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marketing is the end of everything get used to it

I wanted to make an unwrapping vid of the new clif bar, like those japanese mcdonalds videos I posted a while ago, but it got opened before I had a chance.
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haven't been on much but  if you guys saw the eagles game last Sunday my god it was an emotional ride and I'm glade I watched it from begin to end.

Chalk this up for an epic win
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Another track in the bag. Cosmic Love-Astral Heart!
Kinda low-fi but I think it's cute. Starts off a gentle trippy guitar bit for a few minutes. vaguely rambling then gets a bit noisey and returns to normal but then an extreme-trip solo takes hold for the remaining six minutes. Also some theremin dotted about the place to emphasise the spacey-ness, and some vaguely spiritual sounding vocal chanting merged in. Thinking of putting down some vocals proper for some tracks I'm thinking of doing, need to get a mic first as recording using my phone is shit. Also I can't sing, but I think if I just say Abeinspace several times in different voices I can edit it into something vaguely trippy. It's a laugh really, and that's the overriding thing in making music for me I think, the fun of it. Though Anti-Life syndrome and my cover of Maggotbrain were pretty emotional and expressive, I am thinking of getting a bit away from that and focusing on super-fun music!
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i think that political test thing is okay but it has some loaded language; i don't like a lot of the questions. this is my results: http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-6.12&soc=-5.18 i guess it's fairly accurate but i'm probably actually more left and down than that. i'm one o' dem crzy anarchists
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