Poll: Would the current post history be essential to a new GW?

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Poll GW7 Functionality Suggestion Topic +Poll (Read 4615 times)

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Hey,

I am interested to hear what you, the site users would want as features in a future GW. You might be completely passive or you might be someone very creative. You could be an RM2k oldbie or someone who experiments with 3D. Perhaps you just make music! If you reply with a feature I haven't thought of there's a good chance I'll write it into the design.

This thread is just to help me cover any bases that I might not have covered yet.

I am designing a community to be the spiritual successor to GW. You've all probably seen this mockup at some stage or other. I'm not going to be posting any more information about it until it's done so as to avoid progress thread syndrome.

There is also the vote above which is basically asking if the project would be viable if none of the existing posts were carried over. Accounts and posts could probably be migrated with little difficulty (a user validation scheme) but I feel it would be disrespectful to the site administrator to do so. I am divided on my opinion as to whether the posts belong to the site or to the posters themselves.

I don't want a discussion over whether GW itself is viable, that's a decision I have already made - I intend to make it a community. It's not a business venture, there will be no adverts. I am doing this for the community which deserves a greater level of respect.

So please, lets hear your suggestions. They're all welcome even if they're wacky or outdated.

There is a plan in place but I am not going to waste my time posting about it. There are doers and sayers.
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At this point most of the older "classic" threads aren't available to us anyway so I don't think the post history matters at all at this point.  I liked the content you had in your mockup, I think it's more or less exactly what we wanted out of a mainsite.
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I've always thought of data pruning as a result of moving to a new version of a site as, frankly, being lazy. This data is important, it's part of our history and who we are, and it shouldn't be deleted simply because we've got a cool new site. That's how data gets lost: people fail to see the value of it, and years later down the road it's irrevocably gone. This has happened to numerous sites and continues to happen.

At this point most of the older "classic" threads aren't available to us anyway so I don't think the post history matters at all at this point.
I didn't like it when a lot of old posts were pruned when we moved to this new version of SMF (a lot of good topics are available in the archive forums though), but it's not like they're gone forever. With a good plan they can be brought back. A lot of the projects that were on the main site might be gone, though, just like pretty much everything before 2005 is gone.
But still, that's no reason to give up on the idea entirely.
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Nah, all the mainsite data still exists. In fact, pretty much everything save for the threads created in Graphic Arts during 2010 is still saved, but not available due to forum passwording disappearing in SMF 2.0. From a security and organizational standpoint I've decided to tuck it all away until I decide to sift through the multiple layers of archives upon archives created during my adminship as well as the previous admins.

The only thing that is truly gone is the backup Bart made when we moved from IPB to vBulletin. He said he couldn't find it, which is a shame, but I guess the original era of GW isn't that important to most of the current members anyway.
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Right now as it stands praying the data from Drule is imposable to obtain legally so it's ether no database or hack him for it. The point is now we don't have accesses to them at all at the moment so it doesn't matter maybe once we lock down the site and put salt world to shame maybe drule will concede and give up this charade.
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Right now as it stands praying the data from Drule is imposable to obtain legally so it's ether no database or hack him for it. The point is now we don't have accesses to them at all at the moment so it doesn't matter maybe once we lock down the site put salt world to shame maybe drule will concede and give up this charade.
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Feature suggestions please!
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Nah, all the mainsite data still exists. In fact, pretty much everything save for the threads created in Graphic Arts during 2010 is still saved, but not available due to forum passwording disappearing in SMF 2.0. From a security and organizational standpoint I've decided to tuck it all away until I decide to sift through the multiple layers of archives upon archives created during my adminship as well as the previous admins.

The only thing that is truly gone is the backup Bart made when we moved from IPB to vBulletin. He said he couldn't find it, which is a shame, but I guess the original era of GW isn't that important to most of the current members anyway.
Okay, that's nice to hear. Yeah it's too bad we don't have a backup of the old GW. The forum softwares we've used throughout the ages is mostly to blame because none of them make it very easy to migrate your data. This is in line with my rant earlier on IRC about how forum software is the worst ever and does nothing right and barely even changed since the late 90s.
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I agree that the database belongs to the members and I can understand some people not liking it being here if they have something against me or Salt World, but it's not like I'm going to hand it out to anyone who just asks for it considering it contains years worth of personal data. The DB is pretty much our lives chronicled since our teenage years - much of which is intended for private view between specific members only such as in PM or hidden forums - and I consider that highly sensitive.

As it stands now, I believe the best thing to do is to keep the DB where it is - which is closed and contained - and if the majority of the members are unhappy about some major aspect of the forum where it's hosted then that would have to be corrected rather than opening the DB up to the risk of being spread or shared.

If anyone wants to make some kind of spinoff site and it turns out that most members start gravitating toward this site, then I'd be happy to provide a solution to make it work, but I'm not going to carelessly send the entire DB to anyone who asks for it, just to make that clear right now.

In short, it wouldn't be fair to the 45,000 users who have submitted data to the site just because a select few members wants the data to be somewhere else due to various reasons, some of which are personal.
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You could omit entire tables in the process of saving the DB. That would mean empty inboxes is a possibility.

I wish we would talk about features and functionality now. The DB issue was intended as a sidenote. I am just going to try my best.
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I like most of the feature that we discussed before and the addition of the like button would help drive more to the site.

As I said before on steam we need to maintain an IRC channel even if you don't get it. it seems to be a lot of members like IRC.
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So in terms of content submission, what have you got planned?

I'd assume you'd have labels or sections for submitted games/demos. What about artwork or musical submissions, that way when people like ATARI and crotchkneed, etc, post albums it could effectively get posted to a "GW Albums" kind of dealio. So basically you'd need tags for submissions, off the top of my head those could be Games/Music/Artwork/Literature/Demo/Video(do we have any avid filmmakers here aside of pburn?).

Uhh, can't really think of much else.
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You could omit entire tables in the process of saving the DB. That would mean empty inboxes is a possibility.

I wish we would talk about features and functionality now. The DB issue was intended as a sidenote. I am just going to try my best.

Passwords, email addresses, there's a lot more than just PMs. Data protection is a legal obligation not just a moral point of view.

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I wasn't seriously endorsing what DDay said btw. You're absolutely right not to give the database out to just anyone.
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Passwords, email addresses, there's a lot more than just PMs. Data protection is a legal obligation not just a moral point of view.
Just a quick note but there are no passwords in the database, only hashes (which, incidentally, have been salted). So don't worry, nobody knows you use dEmImOOreLuv to get into your Gmail account.
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If the project is actually finished I would be more than happy to see a new mainsite even if it cost some history.
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wipe it all. Year zero this shit and lets start fresh
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wipe it all. Year zero this shit and lets start fresh

but...but my pips...

(can we have burger pips that is my biggest request)

Nah really there is no reason to worry about the database.  If in the future we did get the database we wouldn't want people posting in it anyway so it'd more just be an archive, that could be added at any time.
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