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Poll SOPA (Read 4437 times)

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the point is to spread awareness
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 I wonder how many people know what they're fighting for and how many are following the crowd? Not that I don't welcome any of the latter in this case, but it's not always a wise strategy. Mind you, I'm on anti-SOPA autopilot right now, so don't expect me to be objective.

 Frankly I'd fallen in love with the idea of the Internet being akin to the mythical Wild West.  Hmm, I wonder if the Javascript blackout function might be related to the glitches I got while trying to use HTTPSanywhere...
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I don't really care tbqh. big business wants to screw over people in an attempt to gain capital, what's new? isn't everyone still consuming partially-hydrogenated dung and driving automobiles from one artificial box to the other while bloody wars go on and people starve in countries ravaged by imperialism?? not that this means no one should care about smaller problems like sopa, but I'm kind of irritated by how this is being portrayed as almost the worst thing since wwII and almost everyone has at least a casual stance on it

and sopas make a great lunch so it's hard for me to associate the word with something negative

facebook should be blacked out but they probably think they'd lose too much money
youtube wouldn;t go dark. i mean youtube as we know it would end, but the new youtube would force people to post nothing but 100% original content. not that im suggesting this is a good thing or anything, just sayin.
not sure about this. a lot of the more progressive companies like the free advertising and capitalize upon it. and wouldn't freeware/abandonware/creative commons stuff still be fine?
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yeah but you got shit like this http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/01/201211871157430829.html actually progressing in india (naked drule - avatars...) and you know, it would be a fair game if you said that i'm shit i'm too lazy (bonzi writes earl's rl name down meticulously, red marker pen around the name) but instead you go for we're bourgeoise shits as if's an actually credible argument, leave that shit outta my shight. we're all in this together don't deny it don't fight anything back... earl "REAL apathetic_david_cameron" chip... don't critisize fool, you wouldn't do any better!...who knows what he's up to, he has paws in many baskets...
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Sometimes I wish you guys would write in plain English.
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This is one of the better vids explaining the history of the entertainment industry thinking nothing but money. From audio and home cassette recording to dmca to sopa/pipa and beyond.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h2dF-IsH0I
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yeah but you got shit like this http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/01/201211871157430829.html actually progressing in india (naked drule - avatars...) and you know, it would be a fair game if you said that i'm shit i'm too lazy (bonzi writes earl's rl name down meticulously, red marker pen around the name) but instead you go for we're bourgeoise shits as if's an actually credible argument, leave that shit outta my shight. we're all in this together don't deny it don't fight anything back... earl "REAL apathetic_david_cameron" chip... don't critisize fool, you wouldn't do any better!...who knows what he's up to, he has paws in many baskets...
idk I just can't care that much. ya I disagree with it but to go so far as to actually change my facebook picture to "stop sopa" in motivational poster/instagram font...I think not...

I DO feel kinda shitty for almost being the guy saying "heh well guess what...children in africa are dying and you don't care about that, racists" but big business tries to pull this sort of thing all the time, and people say the reason barely anyone protests anymore is because we've got the internet to keep us docile and make us feel like our voice is being heard when it's really not.
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There was some bill that just got passed allowing the federal government to do whatever the fuck they want to foreign nationals with a subsect contradicting itself about domestic and foreign nationals and giving that patriot act bullshit even more momentum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012

I got it from an anonymous video link so it might be overexaggerated but I can't read the whole thing because the fucking wiki blackout and I can't disable java right now this is a public computer.
 
Edit: what would be nice though, is to see if this sopa thing passes or not. Because I think at this point it is being opposed on such a level that the whole world is kind of looking at it pretty closely and many are voicing their opinions. So if all that gets ignored or kind of half-ass aknowledged then maybe its a sure sign that armchair protests/passive protesting isn't working and won't make the difference people are hoping it will? Then maybe people will get riled up? Maybe????
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The armchair protesting seems to be working to some degree actually, according to NPR. As for the defense bill, that's a whole 'nother story.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4UA6PA2vIM&t=0m41s
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idk I just can't care that much. ya I disagree with it but to go so far as to actually change my facebook picture to "stop sopa" in motivational poster/instagram font...I think not...

I DO feel kinda shitty for almost being the guy saying "heh well guess what...children in africa are dying and you don't care about that, racists" but big business tries to pull this sort of thing all the time, and people say the reason barely anyone protests anymore is because we've got the internet to keep us docile and make us feel like our voice is being heard when it's really not.
well, as far as i know the illegalize sexual minority bill in russia got postponed due to protest there and in the internet and... i don't think you can effectively prove that this stuff wouldn't work 100% of time? especially if only thing you need to do is find a number of your area's representative and just even send a text message if you don't want to give a call and give a piece of your mind (especially since it's apparently a simple procedure/only few steps involved)? 15 minutes dude. i'm talking about possible results vs cost (minimal, physical) = efficiency man! not a shit gets done or discovered anyways if nobody does anything out of disbelief.

i can't do a shit over from finland other than VOICE DISDAIN IN FACEBOOK, the only people who can do even anything little at all are you. but if you still say after this that nah don't care then o     k     a     y .
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also there are many starving children in africa so relatively we don't really have any problem.
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NDAA is so far right wing and dangerous that it would make george bush and dick cheney blush and obama allowed THAT. basically what im saying is we all fucked. gonna go on a torrenting spree the next week and get every album i need before its too late.
There will always be a way to torrent even after legislation like that passes, don't worry. It's impossible for them to actually stop it. All that they can do is increase the level of encryption needed.
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well, as far as i know the illegalize sexual minority bill in russia got postponed due to protest there and in the internet and... i don't think you can effectively prove that this stuff wouldn't work 100% of time? especially if only thing you need to do is find a number of your area's representative and just even send a text message if you don't want to give a call and give a piece of your mind (especially since it's apparently a simple procedure/only few steps involved)? 15 minutes dude. i'm talking about possible results vs cost (minimal, physical) = efficiency man! not a shit gets done or discovered anyways if nobody does anything out of disbelief.

i can't do a shit over from finland other than VOICE DISDAIN IN FACEBOOK, the only people who can do even anything little at all are you. but if you still say after this that nah don't care then o     k     a     y .
I'm not the only american here who hasn't phoned his rep tho I did sign the google petition

I'm just irritated by this. apparently people will bawl if you try to take their pacifiers away, but don't care at all when the really horrible shit is going down
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The sad truth, earlchip. is that not everyone has the stomach to take on issues of human injustice.   Those of us that do will act. Some people do indeed travel in their insular circles but they can do good there.

And apparently megaupload was seized now. (I have a backup of the Chain game on my computer  so that's safe.)
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The sad truth, earlchip. is that not everyone has the stomach to take on issues of human injustice.   Those of us that do will act. Some people do indeed travel in their insular circles but they can do good there.

And apparently megaupload was seized now. (I have a backup of the Chain game on my computer  so that's safe.)
Ahahha holy shit, that's pr astonishing. yeah this will pretty much destroy youtube and eg spacechat, great... even India looks astonished now... if i could had seen in future i'd had dl all the albums intended from it...

i'm not arguing that you guys are shit btw! but just make a honest distinction to yourselves of what is your reason to not to do anything. i understand both of your points well as you should know but i am arguing that the action or time required to fight back legally are really small vs people's general view on doing legal complaints. i'm not in a good place financially either but if i were functional enough with an internet or a phone (bonzi presses fingers against the board, looks everybody intensively, everybody feels uneasy of the intense purple ape) i'd still would had done my part idk RIGHT AWAY if i were an american because i KNOW it really doesn't require much work. you can do while watching limmy's show on youtube for christ sake. it's propably slightly funny watching me taking this seriously but get the fuck outta my spacechat... this will propably affect our lives a whole lot on practical level anyways. idk if abandonware sites get away with this law.

anyways!!! i realize i'm propably yelling in an empty hall right now, i'll stop... remember that good music in 2011 topic?? it's shit who cares. you find all your best music solely from users (musicians, movie guys, walthrus) and music uploaders of youtube. i pretty much rely on that even for my own music exploration/material and i use media uploaders on regular basis to upload my own stuff or to dl stuff.
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Mega upload? I'm sorry but is the american govermant filled with retards? Doing this to megauplaod is like breaking your nose to spite your face or knocking down the building to get at the squatters. Megaupload can't help what it's user's upload and they upload far to much for megaupload to police effectivly, and worse arresting the people who run it? I didn't realise the FBI was that spitefull, becuase they can't stop or get at the uploaders there going to arrest the site owners?
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lol why do you think they raid medical marijuana facilities in states where that shit is legal? Cus they can...
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i don't really think it's much of a secret that megaupload was widely used for piracy... why is it surprising?
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lol i mean it sucks that the state is cracking down on this shit, but i mean i don't understand why anyone would be surprised that it happened or think that the government is filled with retards or whatever.


What!? megaupload/megavideo got shut down??? HOW COULD THEY!?