no, because the top of my list entails real TERRIBLE people who are actually bigots. Those take priority and if I sat here preaching to DDay who isn't the sharpest screwdriver why he shouldn't say the word fag I am pretty much wasting my time and sounding like a pessemistic asswipe. Which is why alot of people that do that shit (harp on miniscule ignorant shit like that) end up getting ignored in the long run.

yea tots i hate minoritys

I'm not being an extremist at all DDay, I don't know why you think that.  It's not that extreme to expect people that I know are good people (like you DDay) to be respectful of other people.  Think about what you said--you wanted to tell some people that they needed to be ashamed of themselves.  So you called them fags.  You're literally saying that being a fag is the same as being ashamed of yourself.  How do you think that makes a gay person feel?  I'm not BEING EXTREME I'm asking you to consider other people's feelings because you're a better person than that.


e: Also before you call me an extremist, consider that the majority of people are PRETTY HUGE ASSHOLES.  If being an extremist (by which I think you mean a minority voice) means going against the huge amount of homophobia and sexism and what have you in the mainstream, I'm pretty happy to be in that category.


DDay, you're a good guy.  BE NICE.

Did you think about how this hurt me vellfire to be told you can't be who you are because your line of thinking. Humen gave words meaning but still every one associates them with the hateful parts. I'm not saying they gays need to be ashamed of there self. my option is fag doesn't need to be in any category and doesn't need to refer to gays at all.

My problem is that, in the case discussion of minority issues, bitterness arises when one is excluded from a controllable thing. Like saying a word or join a discussion group/topic related to it. (I distinctly remember in fact a conversation had here on SW where it was said that non-minorities don't have anything worthwhile at all to say on the topic of a minority's hardships, and should be allowed to participate, this comes off as completely untrue.) Having some sort of controlled differences between groups of people reinforces stereotypes and destroys unity among the human race.

If I encountered a poor black trans woman disabled lesbian and the topic of all her troubles came up and she refused to hear my perspective, I'd tell her like-wise.

It does refer to gay people though DDay.  You don't get to decide what words mean.  If at some point in the future it refers to something else then that's one thing, but right now it refers to gay people and you need to understand that.  If what I've told you has made you feel bad, then you're starting to get a glimpse at what you're doing every time you call someone a fag, and it's all the more reason to stop doing it.

I don't feel bad but Feel hate toward me and the word I pick I view words on a low on a scale and I give action higher wight.To use the word to a person that is gay is true hate and is normally followed up with constant harassment. I used the word once not really to hurt anyone and Still don't care how the world perceives the word fag. As long as I know I didn't mean it as it is perceived.

Your words have effects beyond your intentions, DDay.  No matter what you meant, you still hurt people in this very thread.  You know, your buddies?  I don't understand why you keep insisting on saying you did the right thing.  How was hurting us the right thing?  How can you feel comfortable that you did right when you're saying things that hurt people you like?  The better thing to do is understand why you hurt people and apologize for it and not do it again, instead of to continue being hurtful.