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A while ago, we had a couple threads dedicated to abandoned buildings and amusement parks, mainly centered around this Japanese website: http://home.f01.itscom.net/spiral/. In this thread I'll talk about some of the sites I've had the privilege to visit myself. The first one I'll cover is the Reading Viaduct, an abandoned elevated rail line in Philadelphia.


The Reading Viaduct spans the the whole city of Philadelphia, but the above-ground section I explored is situated within in the Callowhill or Chinatown North neighborhoods. This part of the city is also known as the Eraserhood, because it is where David Lynch lived as a poor art student, and served as the inspiration for his first feature film, Eraserhead. The film's empty, lifeless, industrial spaces echoing with antisocial machine-noises were directly based upon Lynch's experiences here.



Built back in the 1830's, this track was once part of the east coast's largest passenger railway system. If you've ever played Monopoly, you might remember the Reading Railroad space - this is what that tile is referring to.

As you all know, private automobile traffic had largely replaced public transportation by the mid 1900s. Inter-city transportation was, and remains today, almost exclusively limited to private automobiles. It was also during this time that SEPTA, the Philadelphia area's current transportation company, was introducing an integrated intra-city regional rail, subway and bus system, making the Reading Railroad largely obsolete.

Eventually the Reading Viaduct was no longer profitable, and the viaduct itself closed as a functioning rail system in 1985. But it still remained the property of the Reading Railroad, a private company, which means that the city could not touch it without purchasing it first. This proved to be unprofitable, too, as it was estimated that the viaduct would cost far more to demolish than any new business could ever make in its place.

For nearly three decades, the viaduct and the neighborhood around it has been a wasteland. In the meantime, a soil layer began to establish itself on top of the viaduct through the build-up of dust and debris, and wind-dispersed seeds found an open, sunny environment in which to grow.

The picture above and those immediately following were taken from the Reading Viaduct's facebook page.
















That is how the viaduct has looked for well over a decade, but recently a contractor has been hired to clean up the site for sale. By the time I got there they had already cleared almost all of the vegetation, and had begun removing the railroad ties and tracks. The construction crew was actually up there working and operating their heavy equipment while we were snooping around, but we kind of stupidly decided to keep going until someone told us to get out.

The following pictures (two below, six further down) are from my phone. They aren't great, but at this point they're all I have. More will hopefully come later




Currently, the neighborhood is essentially a wasteland of vacant lots, abandoned warehouses and parking. Though there are plenty of cars around, we saw no other people in the area besides construction workers and one person parking their car. Apparently, that's how this place has been ever since the viaduct closed. The warehouses really had no use once the trains stopped running, so they've largely sat empty since 1985. Several of them have recently been converted to lofts for yuppies, so I guess you can say the neighborhood is on the rise. It's better than when Lynch lived here, but it's still essentially a lifeless void.


a view from street level


a pile of rail ties, sitting upon stone aggregate that was recently introduced to the site - it often serves as a base for paving or or planting




something I'm not sure these pictures convey is how isolated you feel up here, despite connecting views out to the rest of the city. combined with the sparse streetscape below, it really feels like you're cut off from the rest of the world.


a white cherry tree somehow found its way up here





We only got to spend about 15 minutes wandering around on the viaduct before one of the workers came up to us and asked us to leave. We talked to him for a little, told him what we were doing up there and the project we're working on. He explained that the crew was clearing the site so that the Reading Railroad could sell it to the city, so that "they can make a park out of it, like up in New York". He also showed us our location on a map, and talked a little about the history of the site. He motioned and pointed at everything with a knife, and was generally nice, but at one point suddenly referred to our project as "whatever bullshit you're talking about".

The park in New York that he mentioned is the High Line, which most of you probably already know about. It's essentially the same situation, but mostly set within in a great neighborhood in New York, with a Frank "Puke and Diarrhea King" Gehry building nearby, and with much more track available above-ground. It was the perfect project for them, but is really the worst thing they could do to the Reading Viaduct, far worse than leaving it as an isolated, sublime urban wasteland. There have been talks about the conversion project for years, and it seems like the first step has been taken towards turning this place into a small-scale, unsuccessful reproduction of the High Line. The project we're working on will propose another use for the viaduct that will be unique to Philadelphia and, I think, will be much more successful too. edit - they pulled the plug

For more history, pictures, and general information, go here: http://www.readingviaduct.org/index.html

If you guys know of or have explored any abandoned trash-filled graffiti wastelands near you, I'd love to hear about them. I have one or two other spaces I can talk about in Philadelphia too. This would probably be better if I was skilled in photography at all, hopefully some of you can contribute better pictures!
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I visited an abandoned soviet airbase in Czech Republic a few years ago, I could make a post about it tomorrow.
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Man, i need to read this properly tomorrow but: i got introduced into this world of urban decay (and it's beauty) years ago when i was visiting america at summer years ago. me and chef were guided thru the urban desolate company district at midnight guided by hundley who was on dxm. we did prank calls on bighugegames and on some phonesex-line. it's a pretty dear memory to me, hundley owns :^) EDIT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiBv1pNR0do
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Makes me think of STALKER.
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that sounds amazing bonzi

I've never seen alot of stuff like that. Where I'm from its either urban or environment and you don't get alot of rundown places like that.

I really wanna do some stuff like this it seems pretty cool. I wonder if there are any urban decay night rave parties going on around there or something I bet that would be sweet.
 
Those are some incredible pictures btw
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I was infatuated with the Paris catacombs for a while in my late teens. I read about all the things people would do, or were rumoured to do, down there and how they would also get chased out and it seemed like this cool clash of you know, the old dark and spooky and cyberpunk hacking because they were going down there and setting up mini-cinemas in some of the larger chambers and stuff. A lot of the entrances around the city got closed up, and much of the catacombs are closed off to the general public but apparently there are still ways of getting in for those who know the right spots and the right people...or maybe there aren't...who knows!

Well, I wanted to know, so I went to Paris when I was 19 and I intended to visit the catacombs but the public entrances were closed cos they were doing something to them the whole time I was there. Crud!

I don't know if the place is actually as cool as I used to imagine, or if it is even remotely active. I haven't thought about them in a while actually. I'm considering going to France for a while this summer so maybe I will visit them and other places, too. I will report any findings.
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great thread.


there's a lot of this in Baltimore, where the crumbling skeleton of industry sits side by side with contemporary american bullshit architecture (mostly yuppie hives and chain stores).  my friends that i visit on the weekends live in what was essentially a major industrial park which has been turned in to row houses.  decaying factories, homeless shanties, rail yards littered with detritus side by side with brand new condos.


anyway, i never knew that about lynch.  makes a lot of sense though.
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great thread.


there's a lot of this in Baltimore, where the crumbling skeleton of industry sits side by side with contemporary american bullshit architecture (mostly yuppie hives and chain stores).  my friends that i visit on the weekends live in what was essentially a major industrial park which has been turned in to row houses.  decaying factories, homeless shanties, rail yards littered with detritus side by side with brand new condos.


anyway, i never knew that about lynch.  makes a lot of sense though.
actually, we did this in Baltimore!! i hadn't seen much of american achritecture before that trip (my eyes were bulging/i was looking amazed at the shotgun shacks in Queens while coming from jfk airport in NYC, must have seen funny to outsiders) and yeah, i didn't get to see the worst of it, the things you described. it was still good enough for me - huge, black-glassed sky-scraping office buildings that looked like from deus ex dystopia and bighugegames was in one of them so it's a funny constrast/serious americanism.

it was good though: before meeting with him, hundley scared me (i was young) that baltimore in a n.3 murder capital... i didn't think much of this... until me and chef went to the baseball stadium by a train/metro, in which
a. i saw the closest thing to those nyc slums you see in 90's police/hospital series at dark which was a uh pretty depressing and threatening site, so much grates/steel bars in front of windows/doors so much filth. purple orangutans eyes' were about to drop from sockets
b. a black police in a raincoat entered the near-empty metro and jesus christ i swear that i've never felt an aura like that/my first introduction to THREATENING GUYS. idk it's hard to explain but he just radiated violence (which sounds funny) but i was unnerved as hell because he looked like that he was ready to beat the shit out of anybody with his baton from the slightest of provocation.

young bonzi and baltimore!!! hundley lamented yesterday in irc that maybe he should really had shown that side of it but tbh i would had probably freaked out/been hella scared and unable to focus on any discussion since i was that impressed already. and maybe doing the crumbling side of baltimore at night wouldn't had been a good idea anyways, idk.
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ready to beat the shit out of anybody with his baton from the slightest of provocation

bunch of kids in an abandoned stadium in baltimore he prolly was dude. I've been through baltimore and I know what you're talking about as far as rundown but it was on the way to DC so I just saw stuff here and there off the highways. Only bad stuff I heard about baltimore is stay away from the hood and if someone tells you not to be somewhere they prolly mean it.
 
Oh I forgot there are parts of new orleans that are still run down but its mostly populated and people have been rebuilding since post katrina so every year theres less and less. I got to see right after katrina though and that shit was stupifying. IE: waterlines all across houses about 4-6 feet up from still water.
 
I think the delapitation has a different kind of fascinating charm to it though when its done via natural disaster like katrina.
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i live in baltimore there's an abandoned amusement park around here
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i live in baltimore there's an abandoned amusement park around here

edit sorry can't delete post, the place 4 this is probably in dumb topic... but i really do like that fact, mmmaaad rezpectz from bonzi... sorry, ill be off my way...
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i live in baltimore there's an abandoned amusement park around here


which one?
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lots of baltimore people here! apparently almost the entire american userbase lives within the philly-baltimore-dc area. I like baltimore a lot, though I haven't been there much. to me, it's kind of like a cross between Philadelphia and Detroit, but smaller and with more arts stuff than either of em (I originally wrote "like if Philly and Detroit had a child and put in waldorf school" but that was stupid). the tourist/urban core is more successfully developed and manicured than anything in Philly, but directly outside of that area it gets really rough. in Philly, the "Eraserhood" I mentioned is really the only neighborhood like that, surrounded on all sides by relatively well-off places. otherwise, the bad sections are classically limited to the periphery in the south, north and west, right before it predictably turns into upscale suburbs

don't you generally have to drive everywhere in baltimore tho

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yeah that's some top-notch stuff. I remember that's all I ever built in minecraft when we played. I think I'm more partial to vegetation reclaiming decaying urban structures and light pouring through dirty windows, but there's some real quality illegal exploration to be had there

there's a lot of this in Baltimore, where the crumbling skeleton of industry sits side by side with contemporary american bullshit architecture (mostly yuppie hives and chain stores).  my friends that i visit on the weekends live in what was essentially a major industrial park which has been turned in to row houses.  decaying factories, homeless shanties, rail yards littered with detritus side by side with brand new condos.
sounds pretty good! I would live in the abandoned factories rather than the condos tho. actually what am I saying I already live in a decaying half-abandoned building

Makes me think of STALKER.
I never played those games, but as I was making this thread I actually had to triple-check to make sure that one image with the billboard reading "STOLYCHNAYA" was actually a picture of the Reading Viaduct and not chernobyl; the two skyscrapers you can see are pretty similar to soviet architecture, and you can't see any other part of the philly skyline (it's almost directly to the right)
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don't you generally have to drive everywhere in baltimore tho



some parts are more walkable than others, but yeah.  i've heard good things about the bus system, but otherwise there's no public transit to speak of.  almost everyone i know that lives in the city drives pretty much everywhere and commutes to somewhere outside of Baltimore
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Makes me think of STALKER.
I never played those games
no no no no no no no no no no no

if you find yourself intrigued by this topic this movie is literally ESSENTIAL VIEWING
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b. a black police in a raincoat entered the near-empty metro and jesus christ i swear that i've never felt an aura like that/my first introduction to THREATENING GUYS. idk it's hard to explain but he just radiated violence (which sounds funny) but i was unnerved as hell because he looked like that he was ready to beat the shit out of anybody with his baton from the slightest of provocation.
that's funny. he probably thought you were being suspicious if you looked scared. it does sound like a really good trip, I'm jealous. the guy I met with the knife was a little intimidating too. I think it's mostly imagination, it's almost uncontrollable in these places at least for me

farren you might want to look up abandoned towns in your general area, the south probably has some of those. otherwise I don't know if decay like this exists in those areas
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I've visited quite a few urban wastelands in my day...mostly because they're fun when you're a teenager and want to photograph something. I visited an abandoned soviet base/factory in ukraine when I went a few years back, figured some of you might be interested...pretty much all of these look similar ie soulless metal machinery and block factories. i really wanted to go somewhere ~famous~ like chernobyl but even bringing up the idea is insane to these people. i'm not sure where this place is exactly, somewhere in western ukraine - we just stopped by because my cousin thought i'd like it. the place got overtaken by druglords for a while and used as their headquarters so there were a lot of needles and bottles everwhere.


























i tried to go inside this place but there were angry barking dogs inside












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I imagine one of the other places you're going to talk about is the Divine Lorraine, but what else ya got earl?  I love this urban wasteland stuff and I'd like to learn more about areas like this in Philly.  Except for north Philly of course, I KNOW ALL THERE IS TO KNOW about it.  In fact I'm sure I can dig up some pictures of various abandoned houses in the area from when I lived there.  I might also have some pictures of a derelict warehouse on (or around) 6th and Jefferson that some friends and I checked out last year.   
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Back in 2010 I visited abandoned soviet airbase in Czech Republic. The base is near a small town called Milovice (not too far from Prague) and it was taken by the soviets around 1968. It has been abandoned since 1991. Lots of empty old buildings, rubble, and piles of empty vodka bottles.. This is not forbidden or off limits like some of those place you guys have posted about, but I thought it was pretty neat. Here's a bunch of pics I took there










These days the airbase is used for different activities, for example it's really popular with paintball players. I also saw some guy using the airstrip to take off with his tiny propeller plane (one of those glider things). Thought it was funny because it's the exact same place where the migs used to take off


There's even an art festival held in the area every year. Unfortunately I just missed it, but I did bump into a rave party in the middle of the woods. Graffiti art is pretty much everywhere













Apparently these were the apartments the officers and their families used to live in. With nobody to take care of things, the apartments are in the middle of a forest now








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Your pictures never cease to amaze me. This time it's like you've lived Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl.