How do you feel now that Obamacare was ruled constitutional?

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libtard

#161 July 17, 2012, 01:37:07 pm

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Take a look at your posts from 2007-2008.

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dada

#162 July 17, 2012, 01:37:55 pm

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Quote from: libtard on July 17, 2012, 01:33:50 pm

You're the one who never had any besides "Think of the single moms!"

Okay, let's take that as an example. You're claiming that I don't have good arguments. Let's have a look at exactly what I said about single moms:

"And yes, inequality is a bad thing. For one thing because the inequality is astonishingly large, so large there are no valid adjectives to describe it. It's slaves and masters. And yeah, some people are smarter than me, and some people work harder than me. But you're not going to convince me a single mother working overtime with no benefits and poor health-safety regulations is literally millions of times less useful to society than a financial company's CEO. The poorest people are so absurdly poor despite working so hard that I have a hard time seeing how you could miss this."

This is actually very conservative compared to most of the other things I've said. And it's very simple, too. All I said here is that the inequality that exists is so absurdly great that it is completely and clearly unfair. I'll leave it to the other people reading this to decide whether they think this is a valid argument or not.

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#163 July 17, 2012, 01:39:46 pm

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Quote from: libtard on July 17, 2012, 01:37:07 pm

Take a look at your posts from 2007-2008.

I preferred Obama over McCain in a system that permits only one of those two to win the election. That's evidence that I'm a fan of Obama???? Look at EVERYTHING I'VE POSTED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OBAMA'S POLICIES. Look at everything I've posted here. Everybody who knows me knows that I think Obama is an extreme right-winger who doesn't care one bit about anything I hold dear.

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dada

#164 July 17, 2012, 01:40:19 pm

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PS when are you going to reveal what your previous nickname was? Because you're kind of a coward for not doing so.

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libtard

#165 July 17, 2012, 01:51:54 pm

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Quote from: Dada on July 17, 2012, 01:39:46 pm

I preferred Obama over McCain in a system that permits only one of those two to win the election. That's evidence that I'm a fan of Obama? ??? Look at EVERYTHING I'VE POSTED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OBAMA'S POLICIES. Look at everything I've posted here. Everybody who knows me knows that I think Obama is an extreme right-winger who doesn't care one bit about anything I hold dear.

No, Anders Breivik is an extreme right-winger, Obama is just what all leftists are: a liar and a thief who thinks he knows better how everything should work.

Also I was just bluffing as I wasn't here in 2007-2008, but thanks for confirming my suspicions that you would favor obama!

Holy shit how can someone be so predictable

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Vellfire

#166 July 17, 2012, 01:52:37 pm

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lol you seriously think obama is left at all

how can one person be so damn wrong

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Faust

#167 July 17, 2012, 01:53:59 pm

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libtard, you're coming across like an aggressive troublemaker. The large post you made was full of such rhetoric and personal insults that you're putting people on the Daily Mail forum to shame. Like you'd be representative of the crazier style of poster there.

Like seriously, when did it become ok to actively use personal insults about people around here?

Besides, all of your arguments seem to come down to "LOL YOU ARE A COMMUNIST, FUCK THOSE WELFARE MOMS" or something. I assume you're a previous GW user, given your familiarity with finding this place, and that implies that you're in your twenties or later. If that is the case, then you really need to avoid the completely immature way you've been posting. I mean fair enough, I'm pretty immature in my posts, but I try not to be in SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS where people's feelings are clearly up.

Hey hey hey

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#168 July 17, 2012, 01:55:02 pm

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Also, what does "leftist" mean?

I've only really heard this specific twist on the word "left wing" coming from the mouths of extremists really.

Hey hey hey

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#169 July 17, 2012, 01:57:19 pm

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Quote from: libtard on July 17, 2012, 01:51:54 pm

Also I was just bluffing as I wasn't here in 2007-2008, but thanks for confirming my suspicions that you would favor obama!

Of course, do you think I was gonna say Ron Paul?

I'd support Obama over Paul with no qualms, in spite of being an actual libertarian (you know, the type that Locke wrote about, the exact opposite of what they call libertarian these days). That doesn't mean my views are at all in line with the American liberal mainstream. Even Noam Chomsky has said he'd support Hillary Clinton over Ron Paul, and he's not exactly a liberal.

And I think the only reason you're not giving us your previous nickname is because you're ban evading.

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#170 July 17, 2012, 01:58:40 pm

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It is kind of hilarious how I'm literally a "communist piece of shit" yet he's seriously trying to convince people that I'm also, at the same time, a fan of Obama's policies.

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dada

#171 July 17, 2012, 01:59:50 pm

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That's like being a Kurd who's a fan of Bill Clinton.

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libtard

#172 July 17, 2012, 02:00:09 pm

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Quote from: Dada on July 17, 2012, 01:57:19 pm

Of course, do you think I was gonna say Ron Paul?

I'd support Obama over Paul with no qualms, in spite of being an actual libertarian (you know, the type that Locke wrote about, the exact opposite of what they call libertarian these days). That doesn't mean my views are at all in line with the American liberal mainstream. Even Noam Chomsky has said he'd support Hillary Clinton over Ron Paul, and he's not exactly a liberal.

And I think the only reason you're not giving us your previous nickname is because you're ban evading.

Chomsky should stick to being a linguist

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libtard

#173 July 17, 2012, 02:02:08 pm

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Also, no, you're not libertarian, you're just dellusional

Plus I'm missing a flamewar that's all

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#174 July 17, 2012, 02:04:59 pm

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Quote from: libtard on July 17, 2012, 02:00:09 pm

Chomsky should stick to being a linguist

Yeah, because his message is starting to resonate more and more with the population, and that's making it very difficult for extreme apologists for capitalism such as yourself. People are beginning to see why this sort of ideology that you're espousing is aimed solely at creating an extremely sharp wealth divide in the population, with one rich upper class controlling the rest for their own benefit.

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Faust

#175 July 17, 2012, 02:05:59 pm

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Why does the word libertarian mean something DIFFERENT in the US?

In the US it seems to mean "EXTREME SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE", and "LET ME OPPRESS PEOPLE WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION".

It's like if National Socialists suddenly decided to use the word "Conservative Jew" as a label for themselves XD!

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libtard

#176 July 17, 2012, 02:06:16 pm

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Quote from: Vellfire on July 17, 2012, 01:52:37 pm

lol you seriously think obama is left at all

how can one person be so damn wrong

He's what the so intelligent liberals voted for.

It's actually pretty hilarious that people had to choose between him or McCain.

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#177 July 17, 2012, 02:07:38 pm

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seriously give us your old username

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libtard

#178 July 17, 2012, 02:08:36 pm

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Quote from: Dada on July 17, 2012, 02:04:59 pm

Yeah, because his message is starting to resonate more and more with the population, and that's making it very difficult for extreme apologists for capitalism such as yourself. People are beginning to see why this sort of ideology that you're espousing is aimed solely at creating an extremely sharp wealth divide in the population, with one rich upper class controlling the rest for their own benefit.

Yeah, 'Things will be better and more equal if you put me in power' is a message that always resonates with the population. That usually ends up causing all the things you're against.

Also: people care as much about him as they care about 'right-wing' intellectuals (not at all)

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#179 July 17, 2012, 02:10:02 pm

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Quote from: libtard on July 17, 2012, 02:02:08 pm

Also, no, you're not libertarian

You literally have no idea what the word means. You've probably never read John Locke or Adam Smith or any of the other Enlightenment figures. The word has been morphed into its exact opposite, and Ron Paul is an exemplification. Today it means being an advocate for complete tyranny, which favors completely handing over the reins to private power, which is even worse than state power because at least that's still somewhat accountable to the public. That has nothing to do with what the term originally meant, and still means everywhere else in the world except the US and a good part of the West.

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libtard

#180 July 17, 2012, 02:11:11 pm

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Quote from: Faust on July 17, 2012, 02:05:59 pm

Why does the word libertarian mean something DIFFERENT in the US?

In the US it seems to mean "EXTREME SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE", and "LET ME OPPRESS PEOPLE WITHOUT GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION".

Most of them aren't even the evil billionaire oppressors you hate (but buy macbooks from).

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