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ok, I'll be a nice kid. I'll comb my hair and tuck in my shirt. I'll do the homework in time. I'll say no to drugs whenever offered. And no alcohol as well, it kills brain cells. No promiscuous sex. Bed by 10. Healthy balanced diet, free of cholesterol. Always give money to charity. Empower women. Teach the street children and give them a platform to have a voice. Vegetarian. No cigarettes. Tolerant to all religions, no matter how far fetched. Perpetual volunteer to any social work.
LIKE A DAMN GOOD HOMO SAPIEN
more productive
comfortable
not drinking too much
regular exercise at the gym (3 days a week)
getting on better with your associate employee contemporaries
at ease
eating well (no more microwave dinners and saturated fats)
a patient better driver
a safer car (baby smiling in back seat)
sleeping well (no bad dreams)
no paranoia
careful to all animals (never washing spiders down the plughole)
keep in contact with old friends (enjoy a drink now and then)
will frequently check credit at (moral) bank (hole in wall)
favours for favours
fond but not in love
charity standing orders
on sundays ring road supermarket
(no killing moths or putting boiling water on the ants)
car wash (also on sundays)
no longer afraid of the dark
or midday shadows
nothing so ridiculously teenage and desperate
nothing so childish
at a better pace
slower and more calculated
no chance of escape
now self-employed
concerned (but powerless)
an empowered and informed member of society (pragmatism not idealism)
will not cry in public
less chance of illness
tires that grip in the wet (shot of baby strapped in back seat)
a good memory
still cries at a good film
still kisses with saliva
no longer empty and frantic
like a cat
tied to a stick
that's driven into
frozen winter shit (the ability to laugh at weakness)
calm
fitter, healthier and more productive
a pig
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lol i like that "empower women" is among "say no to drugs" and "bed by 10"
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ok, I'll be a nice kid. I'll comb my hair and tuck in my shirt. I'll do the homework in time. I'll say no to drugs whenever offered. And no alcohol as well, it kills brain cells. No promiscuous sex. Bed by 10. Healthy balanced diet, free of cholesterol. Always give money to charity. Empower women. Teach the street children and give them a platform to have a voice. Vegetarian. No cigarettes. Tolerant to all religions, no matter how far fetched. Perpetual volunteer to any social work.
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I don't think you really get what we're playin' at here. It really does boil down to what I mentioned before about being nice. That doesn't mean you have to become the Mahatma. You don't even have to be very friendly for all I care—all that's required is that you at least make a serious effort towards avoiding the use of words that confront people with the fact society considers them lesser beings. Even if it's just a joke, and even if your intentions are pure and you really don't have any ill feelings towards whatever group you slighted. Intentions really aren't relevant. This is, in my view, a really simple principle to uphold and a very fair thing to ask of members.
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Omeg, I'm hitting the hyperbole, trying to say you guys got so squared and self-aware! and PC!
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God forbid, we grew up ! ! !
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God forbid, we grew up ! ! !
So did I. So what. Does that mischievous inner child have to die?
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I'm pretty surprised by swordfish's post considering... well... being part of the trans community and all...

At the same time I acknowledge that line of thinking in that I think she's trying to say she hates worrying about not offending people rather than that she actually wants to go out and say nigger and faggot out loud, or say other hateful things.

She wants the technical freedom to say mean things, but doesn't actually have a need to say mean things (and potentially even other people to be able to say mean things to her). She doesn't want to have to constantly have an extra layer of mental filtering.

In a less absolutist sense. one might also probably doesn't want to take fault or blame for offending someone on accident. Since it was an accident, no one is technically to blame, and one should only take blame if they continue after being told not to say whatever it was that was offensive. (but Dada sort of already covered that I guess)

Swordfish definitely could have worded her post better though.
It's mostly this, what I meant was that, If I'm not saying anything offensive, why should I have to watch what I say? It's not racist, not sexist, not ignorant, not intolerant, then the only thing left is that your just offended by how I said it and well that's your problem as far as I'm concered becuase I'm not trying to be offensive in any way shape or form.

EDIT: That also doesn't mean You get a licence to be an asshole or anything like that becuase that just shows ignorance and that is somthing that should be called out.
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So did I. So what. Does that mischievous inner child have to die?
You say this like it's a good thing that people appreciate in children. People appreciate creative children who challenge conventional thinking by virtue of not having been subjected to it as much, but this is simply a matter of being nice or not. Whether you're 11 or 22, you have to try to be nice to people and live together with other human beings in a mutually respectful manner. It's just that when you're 11, you get a bit more leeway because you're young and might not know how to do this.

If you want to, as you say, keep that "mischievous inner child" alive, all you'll end up is being an awful manchild that no one will want to be around. I don't see that that's something worth going for.
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Thing is, I dont disagree with what you guys are saying. I practise that in RL.
All I say is I still find this forum as a space where I can have a more relaxed, careless, PI, approach (outrageous comedy)
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Kids don't rule? Adults don't drool?

LOL, "outrageous comedy" sounds like something you'd see on a DVD box.


I don't think you really get what we're playin' at here. It really does boil down to what I mentioned before about being nice. That doesn't mean you have to become the Mahatma. You don't even have to be very friendly for all I care—all that's required is that you at least make a serious effort towards avoiding the use of words that confront people with the fact society considers them lesser beings. Even if it's just a joke, and even if your intentions are pure and you really don't have any ill feelings towards whatever group you slighted. Intentions really aren't relevant. This is, in my view, a really simple principle to uphold and a very fair thing to ask of members.
whoa whoa whoa, intentions definitely matter. Its just that we can't read minds and even sarcasm detection and joke detection tends to fail on the internet.

Also not being a dick wad matters. (though maybe you shouldn't get a warn for being a dick wad? IDK grey area maybe) Really what you want to do is be practical and not allow these words because it covers a large swath of problematic behavior and alienates a large group of the population to use those words commonly in a community. Am I wrong here?
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whoa whoa whoa, intentions definitely matter. Its just that we can't read minds and even sarcasm detection and joke detection tends to fail on the internet.

When it comes to slurs?  No, intentions don't matter.  Slurs aren't okay whether they're as jokes or as full-on regular-old hate.
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Thing is, I dont disagree with what you guys are saying. I practise that in RL.
All I say is I still find this forum as a space where I can have a more relaxed, careless, PI, approach (outrageous comedy)

It's only relaxed for you dude!!!  Most of us aren't relaxed by ~*~hilarious~*~ slurs, especially those of us who are targeted by them!!!
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Thing is, I dont disagree with what you guys are saying. I practise that in RL.
All I say is I still find this forum as a space where I can have a more relaxed, careless, PI, approach (outrageous comedy)

yeah but the fact that you feel the need to unwind in such a way is pretty alarming imo!! i act "polite" irl too, but never in my life have i ever felt repressed by it and never have i felt the urge to go on the internet and scream nigger nigger cunt faggot nigger just because i could.
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When it comes to slurs?  No, intentions don't matter.  Slurs aren't okay whether they're as jokes or as full-on regular-old hate.
I'm a determinist. I can't be rationally mad at someone if they offend me unintentionally (and I know it was unintentional at least). Maybe frustrated with them though. Maybe some pity if they learned this behavior to the point that its ingrained in the psyche.
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When it comes to slurs?  No, intentions don't matter.  Slurs aren't okay whether they're as jokes or as full-on regular-old hate.
Agreed, If your not even saying it with serious intention, I think that's worse as you are not even considering it to be an issue, thats disreguarding what other's consider to be super important; at least those that that have hate are at least putting the issue at the same level as those that are opposite them (not that I agree saying it at all is ok). It's essentially insulting them and at the same time disreguarding the issue as well.
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I'm a determinist. I can't be rationally mad at someone if they offend me unintentionally (and I know it was unintentional at least). Maybe frustrated with them though. Maybe some pity if they learned this behavior to the point that its ingrained in the psyche.

I don't care if I know logically that someone wasn't seeking to hurt me, slurs that target me are gonna hurt me every damn time, and because of that I can extend that feeling to slurs that don't target me.  Why the fuck does anyone NEED to be using them anyway?  They aren't funny jokes.
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whoa whoa whoa, intentions definitely matter. Its just that we can't read minds and even sarcasm detection and joke detection tends to fail on the internet.
No, they don't really matter that much. Maybe someone would be content to know that someone "didn't mean it", but as I said before it's also the fact that people don't like being confronted with the knowledge that they are treated as second class citizens by society. So you can have the best intentions imaginable, and it would still make someone feel bad. And it really doesn't help to know that someone considers it good humor to say things that you take offense to.


This kind of reminds me of what the hacks like Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens used to say, about how the US is far better than Osama Bin Laden because we don't intend to kill children, and that puts us "in a different moral universe" (actual quote). But the truth is, it doesn't matter when you're a child that's staring at the smoldering remains of his house and family.
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yeah but the fact that you feel the need to unwind in such a way is pretty alarming imo!! i act "polite" irl too, but never in my life have i ever felt repressed by it and never have i felt the urge to go on the internet and scream nigger nigger cunt faggot nigger just because i could.
lol, is that your impression of me? I have a bit more of uh... depth than that

It's only relaxed for you dude!!!  Most of us aren't relaxed by ~*~hilarious~*~ slurs, especially those of us who are targeted by them!!!
I know!!!!! Ain't that OUTRAGEOUS!?!?!??!!!
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lol, is that your impression of me? I have a bit more of uh... depth than that
In that case I wonder why you feel so strongly that your humor or art has to rely on the use of slurs to "work"? That's certainly not the case for Targ or anything else.
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How do you not understand Sheppard that you saying Nigger on the internet alienates those who are actually black or offended by the term? Should they "unwind and chill out" because you enjoy using these words? Or should you think about how these hateful terms make people feel?

SEEMS PRETTY OBVIOUS IMO

I haven't lost a sense of humor at all and I'm known as a jokey kind of guy IRL, but that doesn't mean I think it's hilarious to say faggot and racist terms among people who have been genuinely oppressed by these words. Offline or online doesn't make a difference.

LOL STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT MY HOLOCAUST JOKES I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR GRANDPARENTS IM ON A FORUM AND JUSSS BEING SILLY ITS OK.....
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