Man, are slurs ever okay?  Let's ask Straight White Male Comedian for the answer...

He was trying to justify the uses of those words just becuase when he first used them it didn't have the connotations it did as informed adults. IF he can't be funny without being hurtfull, then he should stop being a commedian.

being "anti-PC" is somewhere between being a gun nut and having serious opinions on goths and emos

or maybe I do? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Vj2iQSeboA

thanks for posting this, because it's awful and even Louie doesn't like that bit and doesn't do it anymore. not that a comedian is someone you should learn life lessons from

I've been reading my own past post.

My god I was ridiculous back then. I built up this online persona that was so polemic and pedantic. And I know I did it for fun, to shake the sheets a bit, specially when I felt GW was starting to decline evidently.

you're kind of boring. what if the edgy thing for you to do is actually be genuine and a half-decent adult??

its ok to remember the community's past, but it's more important to understand those things for what they were [horrible shit that should make you feel bad] and not to romanticize it as carefree youth.

~~~ it's the forum that made us what we are today ~~~

Proportionally speaking?  Might as well be.  Thanks for being obtuse so as not to have to confront your disgusting pride in some of the worst parts of our site's history though.

I'm really surprised by how strongly ashamed you feel about this site's 'dark' history.
I totally don't feel about it that way. I'm not saying what we did was right (because of course now we was great, sensible and evolved homo sapien), but it was good fun times. And I honestly feel like it's a shame you guys shun yourself from those times, if it was the Third Reich.

I am alarmed by how uptight most of you guys have become. And that Louis CK gig was hilarious. (only 13 unlikes according to youtube means rarely anyone got offended)

you're kind of boring. what if the edgy thing for you to do is actually be genuine and a half-decent adult??

I tackle that issue in RL. This is about GW's PI past and you guys shunning from it

I tackle that issue in RL. This is about GW's PI past and you guys shunning from it

Because it's fucking embarrassing and no matter how many times you keep telling us "I'm not like that in real life" that doesn't make it cool that you're spending your online time defending the worst bits of our history and in the present defending garbage like that Louis CK bit, which he himself is turning away from these days.  Wow, Straight White Male comedian misses being able to say Faggot, Nigger and Cunt.  Wonder why that wasn't such a problem for him.

thanks for posting this, because it's awful and even Louie doesn't like that bit and doesn't do it anymore. not that a comedian is someone you should learn life lessons from

i was just saying this on irc - about how he has gotten much better basically since he got divorced or around then. what i was saying though is I don't think he has renounced that kind of stuff, but just that he doesn't do it anymore (which is normal, he throws out old material every year). has he said something about how he now thinks that routine was stupid that i missed?

Political correctness is basically just a codeword for "the people around me won't let me be bigoted anymore and I For One Am Upset!!!"

shepperd I don't know why you care so much as to obviously rile people up, though. I know why everyone cares, because this is serious stuff that they deal with in their everyday lives, and it's really annoying to see yet another guy* bringing this stuff up like it's a revolutionary subject no one here has ever thought about before. I guess this is a fun exercise for you, and that's what irritates me. if you're just ignorant, fine, but if you know what you're doing and are just trying to upset people about significant parts of their lives, that's kind of despicable, don't you think?

*isn't it kind of annoying to share the same opinions as the media archetype/every other globalized internet user on the planet

about your cover issue, I think wastoid and others had good answers to that. whatever I don't really want to type a thousand words about this, just wanted to reinforce some points.

Sure it was fun at the time! But just a few posts ago you were justifying it as right.

I'm not uptight at all, but you are still wrong for romanticizing saying nigger and faggot. It's not up to you to decide whether people who have been subjected to the words should be offended or not.

We have plenty of smart, interesting and creative people. For instance this topic: http://www.saltw.net/index.php?topic=82136.0

If being interesting for you revolves around slurs, then you are the boring one. Being smart and evolving mentally as a person, is infinitely more cool than obsessing over not being PC. As you can see most of our old members agree, and even a lot of the ones that have left since our heyday would feel the same.

geez, you're not getting my point.
I haven't been talking about how to be humorous in the present. I don't disagree with you there.
It's about how you guys are shunning to the past because, ugh, it was the worst bits of our history.

I mean, Give it a break ok? Vellfire, stop treating it as if it was the DARK AGES of GW history. It was hardly so. We had great times. Personally, it was the best times.
When it stopped being like that, many left. I left. I came back to remember those great times. Now I find out that the few that remained don't want to know anything about it. Tough shit.

Louis CK bit, which he himself is turning away from these days.

I'm not buying this. Unless he says somewhere that that slurs routine was stupid.
But I find the routine funny and not offensive, except for uptight people.

i like how the word 'evolved' was being used as a pejorative

i like how whenever someone says 'i like', everyone reading immediately knows that the phrase is being used in the ironic sense. for no reason other than because it is always used like that, literally 100% of the time, with absolutely zero exceptions.

except this time. I am using the word like actually sincerely in this one and only instance. perhaps this is the very first time this has ever happened in the entire history of this forum.

I guess I'm the only person that cares about intent universally.

There's a saying that goes "intent isn't magic".  If you don't intend harm, you can still DO harm.  The key (in this scenario) is to then apologize for it and not cause that same harm in the future.  Most people don't do this though.  If you want to prove your intentions were good, apologize and stop doing that same harm.  THEN people will care about intent.

Also, if Louis CK was black, gay, or a woman (or all of those) would that change how you felt about that video?

Well, if he was, he probably wouldn't be making those jokes.  And, if he did, then it would have ENTIRELY different connotations than someone who isn't.  A straight white man is not the one who gets to decide how much fun it is to say slurs where he's the one in power.  It's really damn easy to talk about how much you miss saying faggot when you've never had to live as a gay person.

But I find the routine funny and not offensive, except for uptight people.

"I find this joke about how cool it is to say faggot, nigger and cunt hilarious!"

~ forums poster shepperd who isn't gay, black or a woman, so has no idea how these slurs feel

Wow sure am glad you're the one who gets to decide that it's Officially Funny, everyone!  Glad you're the gatekeeper of what's funny and that if we don't agree, we're uptight!


e: I mean seriously how dense can you be that you're saying "well I don't find it offensive!!!"  Of course you fucking don't, why not actually look at people who those slurs target instead of YOU.  Why do you think you're the one who decides this for everyone else?

shepperd I don't know why you care so much as to obviously rile people up, though. I know why everyone cares, because this is serious stuff that they deal with in their everyday lives, and it's really annoying to see yet another guy* bringing this stuff up like it's a revolutionary subject no one here has ever thought about before. I guess this is a fun exercise for you, and that's what irritates me. if you're just ignorant, fine, but if you know what you're doing and are just trying to upset people about significant parts of their lives, that's kind of despicable, don't you think?

I dunno man, I'm talking about our common past and I'm kinda disappointed most don't have fond memories of the humour at the time, whereas I do, although I can understand why it couldn't be replicated nowadays