Dev - Gamemaker Love and War: Act I (New Revamp Released!) (Read 6815 times)

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I played the first installment of LAW and I played this. I didn't complete it, but I think I should. However, I think that I am capable of giving some decent opinions of what I've experienced so far.

The better part of this game is truly, as most stated, the dialouge and the backstory (ie. the politics that are going on). I think you really managed to pull off what began as (in my opinion) a half-assed teenager-goes-to-hollywood but then SOMEHOW escalated into a intriguing plot. I would say that some of the dialouge between NPCs and the characters feels a bit off and sometimes odd, but you did manage to conjure a few laughs back here, so all in all, I wouldn't complain about that. Even though I could connect to the characters, I couldn't bring myself to like them; I do, however, really, really hate Juno :) so I guess you got me there.

Gameplaywise, it is simple, but simple works. One single thing that managed to greatly annoy me however, was the constant switching between random and on-touch encounters. You either have one or the other - and absolutly NOT on the same map I think this was the case in the mines at some point)

Graphics are... probably one of the weaker aspects of this game. They're clashing, are pretty horribly mapped and whatnot. The art looks very good I'd say, but the rest is...
Try and focus on a single source and style of graphics and practice. Take inspirition from other games with better mapping and blablabla thousands told you this already.

Musicwise and sounds, I think I absolutley DETESTED the songs in Davenport. That's the only impression it left on me, unfortunately.

Hope it helps.
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Well, that sounds like a pretty sober and reasoned assessment Mr. Nemo, I appreciate it. :) It might be neat if you finished it (if you made it to the mines, you're pretty close to the end already!) but I wouldn't force it or anything. Glad you found some things to like about it, though, maybe I can improve a bit in Act II.

Oh, and: you really hated the music in Davenport? I guess there was a fair amount of RTP lurking there still, but I did think the Davenport theme was awfully nifty... Ah, well!
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In my opinion, Mr. Nemo's post should be ignored. There's such a thing as being objective and constructive, but if you aren't completely satisfied with Love and War, then there's nothing in this world that can please you.
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In my opinion, Mr. Nemo's post should be ignored. There's such a thing as being objective and constructive, but if you aren't completely satisfied with Love and War, then there's nothing in this world that can please you.

Actually, you are 100% right. There is nothing in this world that can please me - it's all sex and death, as far as I can tell ;D
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Um, what happened to love and war page? It keeps telling me it doesn't exist.
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Ah, it's been moved to: http://www.antiochforever.com/law/

Please update your links.  :)
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No way, you moved the page! ;-0
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I'm replaying the game due to a small trick by my friend requiring a system restore and making me lose all of my RM Games and savefiles and... I'm even more amazed by this game.

Now that I generally know how the games go, I regret that I did not explore as much as I did this time through. There is TONS of stuff, even if they don't reward you for looking (perhaps a Moon Herb or something) that easily show the best mapping of the game, and every little thing shows so much detail and nuance. I find myself going to Glendale after every sleep, just to see the man say "The weather gods should be fastidious about Thursdays" and then Fridays, and then Saturdays. Or going to the Royal Navy Base to see what are Ryan/Lavie/Armin/Henrik's opinions on joining the Navy. I just keep on saying "WOW! Admiral Styles really thought this out." This is definitely my top RM game of all time, and is definitely on my top 10 list of games in general of all time. I just can't believe how well the characters are made, how much detail is placed into this game, how many little references here and there and small jokes, and personalities (even for secondary and even tertiary characters) there are in this game. This is not fanboyism: I cannot stress how much I believe Mr. Nemo is wrong. This is simply an amazing game.
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Ouch. System restores are no fun, no fun at all. Even when they work...

I find myself going to Glendale after every sleep, just to see the man say "The weather gods should be fastidious about Thursdays"

Heh, I totally forgot about that... I think I put it in because I personally tend to notice things like that myself when I play RPGs. :) But only the truly dedicated will finish the game with the "rank" of Emperor Cool!

Well, once again, I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed Act I. But I do think that whether a player likes Love and War themselves depends on their own personal preferences. To use something of an example: the Metal Gear Solid series can be pretty polarizing. People tend to either love, love, love it, or find it to be a totally nonsensical mess and a complete waste of time. Something along those lines. Different things appeal to different people!

The funny thing is how Act I is just the tip of the iceberg in so many ways. It can be frustrating "building the base", and sometimes I just wanted to leap ahead and have big, huge, sweeping events happen all at once. But no, if I wanted to make the game true to my vision, it has to be a slow and steady progress. That's just me. :)

I really need to finish Act II. *grumbles*
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Still waiting for the Act II. I offered help but had to drop out of the offer due to time restraints. Maybe you should release Act II in Parts rather than in one huge Act? (Like Act II: Part 1 then Act II: Part 2?)
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yeah whenever this topic gets bumped i just like to shoutout that this is probably one of my favorite rm games : ]
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Yeah dude I'm still waiting for more!
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Will try it out seeing as this game has so many goods feedbacks...
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Aw, you guys...  :cry:

james_the_composer: I've actually thought about that. In fact, I'm strongly considering doing just that for Act III, splitting it into two parts (Act III, Scene 1, and Act III, Scene 2?), though I'm not absolutely certain. As for Act II, you think that might be a good idea? It makes a certain amount of sense I guess, since many moons and suns ago I had planned Act I, Act II, and Act III as all part of one mammoth RPG...
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When I first started playing the game (mythological gods knows how long ago), I really thought the dialogue didn't fit. Like it should belong in a book or something. But then as I went along with the game it really latched on to me, one of the few RM games that make me smile from just one sentence. Here's to hoping you continue this project.
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So I get this error when I try to download the game:

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Fatal error: Call to undefined function sqlite_open() in /home/antioch5/public_html/law/downloads/counter.php on line 19
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Sorry about that, there's some odd problem going on with the webpage, I think... For now, I've reuploaded it here: http://www.antiochforever.com/law/misc/Law1-RTP.zip

Hope that works!
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Nice to see you again Admiral Styles. Remember me? Your number one fan. ;)

So how near release is Act II? LAW is one of the best RPGs I ever played. Period.

BTW, noticed my "new" game? Sorry for moching for players, but it was hard to find many for that game.
Last Edit: December 09, 2008, 11:52:06 pm by Lachie Dazdarian
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lachie, if you're going to do that, just post it in your signature.

also, I am wondering from people who played this: What makes the writing so good? What do you like about it? Specifics please. Just give me some reasons. I'll probably try it tonight if I have my laptop with me.
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Sorry about that, there's some odd problem going on with the webpage, I think... For now, I've reuploaded it here: http://www.antiochforever.com/law/misc/Law1-RTP.zip

Hope that works!

Thanks! Going to try it out right now.  :fogetsmile: