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Garou: Mark of the Wolves


Garou: Mark of the Wolves is the final chapter in the Fatal Fury series. It would go on to be endlessly compared to Street Fighter 3: Third Strike. The game is amazing, its really fun and solid, and until recently infinites were not found. But no not freak out, the infinites in this game are INSANELY hard and there are only 2 of them.


MAME Info
We currently play on MAME32k 0.64 which you can download here: http://www.anti3d.com/dl/mame32k0.64en.zip
We also use a new kailleraclient.dll which enables near flawless Peer 2 Peer netplay connections which you can download here: (coming soon. We use an older one so that we can still use Kaillera. You can ask someone in #capcom to send it to you for now.)

Game Info

All info on this game can be found on #capcom's very own website. Link to the info is here: http://www.capcom.leafo.net/Garou.htm

FRAME DATA


FRAME DATA:
Due to the first post getting pretty massive and close to the cut off point for a post here at GamingW, here is all the frame data condensed into one post. I would like to thank Kouga, Toodles, Howard Arena, and the japanese Garou Mook for providing these frame stats. I am merely providing them here for your ease.
















Awesome Vids

These 4 vids are the best I have ever seen and show masterful play:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDfABrqkvSQ - Terry vs Gato
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjC8XWWkOkI - Rock vs Kevin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRopookPtDc - Dong vs Jenet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO2lSMrDpJ0 - Gato vs Rock EPIC FINISH!!!

Howard Arena Videos:
Howard Arena 2v2 Tournament: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=5E64582DFDD67BE3
Howard Arena 1v1 Tournament #2 (no sound) : http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=14F3693A9D916290
Howard Arena 2v2 Tournament #2 http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=BB525E74C3DE2474
Howard Arena 1v1 Casuals: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=F390073758DA1E65

Final Word

So yeah this is the topic for one of SNK's BEST games imho. Post combos I may of misseeed, infinites if any more get discovered, tips, BNB's, etc.

Make sure your info comes from Set 1 of Garou and not the prototype edition (you know you have prototype if Hoku has a yellow cape in the character select screen instead of red.)
Last Edit: April 06, 2008, 06:51:07 pm by handsome lamb
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For fun Jae Hoon Combo:  ( I think this is corner exclusive but it might not be can't remember) J.A, J.C,(land) J.A xx D+B or D.

Also anytime you land a comet crusher and knock them midscreen and they choose not to quick stand you can get an easy cross up using j.A which can easily combo into another comet crusher or another BNB.

However in my case people just about always quickstand after getting hit by it which is ok, you can dash over them before they quickstand and put a standing A on top of them to go into a comet crusher. 
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A.W.E.S.O.M.E. topic man! Way better than Corel's!
And yeah guys, this game is fucking good. Get it right now if you haven't already.

Also DN, Kim originally appeared in one of the Fatal Fury games, and was later put into KoF, just like Terry, Andy, Joe and others.
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Great topic IMHO

uuh Jenet combos:

B&B: Standing A/C -> qcf + A
Crouching C -> qcf+A
Crouching B/C -> qcf+B (BR) -> qcf+B or B/D super
Backdash -> Harrier Bee


Also a neat Hotaru combo:

A -> qcb+B (BR) -> qcf, u then K (Rengeki-shuu) -> qcfx2 + whatever button the rape super was on, P or K I forget


By the way why teh fuck is Hotary low tier
Hotaru isn't low tier you faggot
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Awesome topic man!


Anyway, some Dong Hwan combos you could include...

ANYWHERE
QCF+B/D, F, D, DF+C
QCF+B, Crouching B/C, F, D, DF+C
QCF+B, Close C
QCF+B, Standing/Crouching C, QCFx3+C
QCF+D, HCB+C
QCF+D, QCB+B/D
QCF+D, Jump, QCFx2+A/C (Does 80% in TOP mode with C and proper timing, works better when you're not in the corner)

CORNER ONLY
Jumping D, Crouching C, F, D, DF+C

That is all I have so far, so add them to the list.
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I finally got a gamepad for my comp, and this game is amazing! I just wish there were more people playing it, though. Get on Netplay, people!
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Uhm...#capcom is still the place for fighters bub.
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By the way why teh fuck is Hotary low tier
Hotaru isn't low tier you faggot
This. Hotaru is at least a mid tier.
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OK i will explain this again:

The tier list on srk is like 6 tiers, so I mixed it so that it was 4. Therefore Mid Low got mixed with low, and mid high got mixed with high.

ok?
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Not ok.

You should have mixed mid-low with mid instead. What you're doing now is telling people that Hotaru and Rock are on the same level as (i.e. as bad as) Tizoc and Freeman, which is pretty fucking wrong since at least Tizoc is stone cold rock bottom. So better tiers would be:

Top Tier

Kevin

Upper Tier

Jae
Grant
Gato
Jenet
Terry

Mid Tier

Butt
Dong
Kain
Hoku
Hotaru
Rock

Low Tier

Tizoc
Freeman
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Except I'm not because:
a- The tiers change quite a bit based on opinion.
b- I've already fucking said on IRC they aren't in an order (IE: JAE IS NOT BETTER THAN GATO OK) but just represenative. I am not saying Hotaru is on the same level as Tizoc, I am saying she is in the same VERY GENERAL quality as Tizoc. She might be better, she might be worse, but hey whatever.

There is no definite Garou tier list, just because you think Hotaru is higher doesn't mean this one is wrong. This is just a general tier list.
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I'm new to Garou, so I must ask, what makes Freeman and Tizoc so bad? Any tips on the others?
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Freeman has lol moves that generally suck, and he has so few options, and Tizoc is a grappler in a game where yes, grapples are strong, but there is so many ways to stop tizoc because he has no options that well, against a good player, tizoc is very lucky to get a 360 grab out.
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UPDATE:

*Changed all instances of Kim being in KOF to Fatal Fury (FF).
*Added posted combos to Jenet, Jae, Dong, and Hoku.
*Changed tier list to be more to the point rather than represenative, now people at the top are better than the people at the bottom and the same tier listing (ie: Hotaru is better than Rock who is better than Tizoc)

TO COME:
*Frame Data for every Special and Super Move.
*More combos.
*A more to the point Gameplay System section.
*Gameplay Videos from a famous Japanese tournament that does Garou ranbats constantly.
*Tips to maximize your feint and brake usage.
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http://www.youtube.com/user/JaimeDL hefty source of match videos for this game.  Subscribe to him or whatever (i think that helps him or something i dunno).

EDIT: Also Terry needs more combos.

On a standing opponent:
Standing A, Standing C, QCB+A or QCF+A or QCFx2+A, B, C, or D. (Buster Wolf or Power Geyser whichever you want (in other words buster wolf))

On an opponent no matter what the much harder
Standing C, Down A+C, Crouching C, QCF+A or B, or QCFx2+A, B, C, or D.

Both combos work after a jump in if the jump in is a cross-up.
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By the way, kids, if anyone ever wants to play me, look for me in IRC, or if I'm not on there, I'm usually on AIM under Perpetual Moogle. If I'm online, I'll usually get off my lazy ass and play any game you want, even if it means me getting the ROM if I don't have it.
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Also, is there a way a little guide to the tiers and a overview of the characters can be written? It's one thing to have a tier list, but I'd like to know why the characters are where they are.
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they are that way because the guys at the top generally have more options and advantages than guys at the bottom but sure i'll work on it right now
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Yo tournament for this is hur http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?topic=63338.msg1129383#msg1129383


Maybe you Hotaru guys can go show how much she owns.
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Maybe you Hotaru guys can go show how much she owns.
Actually I think i'll stick to Terry and show y'all what mad priority can do!!