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Wash Cycle

#341 October 06, 2007, 04:19:52 am

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Quote from: Polygon on October 06, 2007, 04:14:32 am

It's just a general term used to indicate a noticeable difference in either intensity or effects.

I was under the impression that that whole tiered plateau system was a really pretentious and dumb way of categorizing different psychedelic drug experiences that only really dumb people buy into.

am I mistakened?

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Lars

#342 October 06, 2007, 01:19:24 pm

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Quote from: Wash Cycle on October 06, 2007, 04:19:52 am

I was under the impression that that whole tiered plateau system was a really pretentious and dumb way of categorizing different psychedelic drug experiences that only really dumb people buy into.

am I mistakened?

The people I know that are deep into psychedellics use the plateau system a lot. I've never bothered learning what the differences are, but it's not just some dumb way of categorizing the experiences imo.

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Wash Cycle

#343 October 06, 2007, 02:56:36 pm

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well this one time I heard two psychonauts talking about it

and they were having an indepth discussion which shifts between plateaus were their favorite. So I just assumed it was extremely pretentious

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#344 October 06, 2007, 03:02:02 pm

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"Closed eye visuals" is what i had, and my eyesight was blurred so i was tempted to close them a lot, it was just a nuisance to me. but yea, get ready for the taste. i had a bottle of mouthwash on hand to immediately flush that nastyness out of my mouth. id rather buy a bottle of liquor with that cash and i dont even drink.

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#345 October 06, 2007, 07:45:21 pm

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Wow, cough syrup is pretty fucking nasty. At least 118mL isn't that much. I've tasted worse.

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Omacatl

#346 October 06, 2007, 08:12:06 pm

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man. all this talk of DXM is making me nasueas. cough syrup

. robitussin cough gels

theraflu thin strips

and last but most disgustingly not least Zycam nitetime cough spray. 800mg of DXM in a single shot.

. double puke.

yeah please, dont do dissociatives.
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#347 October 06, 2007, 08:16:36 pm

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Quote from: Wash Cycle on October 06, 2007, 02:56:36 pm

well this one time I heard two psychonauts talking about it

and they were having an indepth discussion which shifts between plateaus were their favorite. So I just assumed it was extremely pretentious

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the plateau system applies well to DXM because the different dose sensitive platueas really do exist and are so far removed from one another a difference in 70 or so milligrams can make for an entirely different experience. with other entheogens like psilocybin, MDMA, mescaline, and LSD its a lot harder to distinguish between dose levels because EVERY experience is different. low doses of any of those can sometimes floor you. the level system is used by Alexander Shulgin to give qualatative accounts of experiences with +5 being the highest - complete and total imersion in the experience or Ego loss, loss of sense of self. thats a really high dose. i find with psychedelics its almost impossible to rate or compare because each experience to me is so meaningful.

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#348 October 06, 2007, 09:09:09 pm

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So is there a correlation between being a member of GW and becoming a huge druggie or what

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#349 October 06, 2007, 09:53:56 pm

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Idk all i know is that right now music is sounding cooler and its pretty hard for me to see shit. I can't fosuc my eyes and its weird when I move around. Haven't gotten any weird illusions/hallucinasions yet so idk if I did enough. I've been listening to music th ewhole time and I'm having a pretty good time but I'm also really really dizzy.

edit: its been about 2 hours since I drank it. idk if I've peaked but if i have then I'm kinda dissapointed and I'll have to drink 2 bottles next time. oh man what weird looks I'll get at the drug store.....

Last Edit: October 06, 2007, 09:56:29 pm by BravoSector

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#350 October 06, 2007, 09:55:48 pm

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Is this in most cough syrups?

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#351 October 06, 2007, 10:00:55 pm

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DXM is used for controlling cough so yes. Its usually mixed with a lot of other stuff which will either make you thow up or cause you to die. Make sure you get cough syrup that doesn't have anything other than DXM (if you must though....its okay if it has Guiafenesin though cause that just makes you throw up).

editL for future reference...what kind of music should I listen to? I've been listening to what i like: Yes, Floyd, Mars Volta, anything that sounds somewhat physcodelic.

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#352 October 06, 2007, 10:28:43 pm

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Quote from: Ragnar on October 06, 2007, 09:09:09 pm

So is there a correlation between being a member of GW and becoming a huge druggie or what

I'd say quite the contrary, there haven't really been a lot of discussions of it until recently, far less than you'd expect on a forum with 10'000 members anyhow (imo).

Also Omacatl stop telling people to not do dissociatives.

Ketamine is a pretty accepted party drug in Europe.

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#353 October 07, 2007, 09:25:47 am

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Quote from: Ragnar on October 06, 2007, 09:09:09 pm

So is there a correlation between being a member of GW and becoming a huge druggie or what

No,
I was a druggie before a GW...ie

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Wash Cycle

#354 October 07, 2007, 11:50:13 am

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Quote from: Lars on October 06, 2007, 10:28:43 pm

Also Omacatl stop telling people to not do dissociatives.

Ketamine is a pretty accepted party drug in Europe.

I would recommend against doing them as well but I've already made my point pretty clear on that one. Europe != America

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#355 October 07, 2007, 07:02:16 pm

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Quote from: BravoSector on October 06, 2007, 10:00:55 pm

editL for future reference...what kind of music should I listen to? I've been listening to what i like: Yes, Floyd, Mars Volta, anything that sounds somewhat physcodelic.

Probably Royksopp if you want something uplifting and stuff

And Aphex Twin's Selected Ambient Works II if you wanted to die of a heart attack or something

http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/

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#356 October 07, 2007, 07:17:35 pm

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Quote from: BravoSector on October 06, 2007, 10:00:55 pm

DXM is used for controlling cough so yes. Its usually mixed with a lot of other stuff which will either make you thow up or cause you to die. Make sure you get cough syrup that doesn't have anything other than DXM (if you must though....its okay if it has Guiafenesin though cause that just makes you throw up).

editL for future reference...what kind of music should I listen to? I've been listening to what i like: Yes, Floyd, Mars Volta, anything that sounds somewhat physcodelic.

For dissociatives, minimalistic techno is usually considered the best tripping music. For psychedellics, obviously psychedellic music 8) I'd recommend Shpongle, a very psychedellic ambient group. Their music is pretty incredible, and terming it ambient psytrance or whatever just doesn't do them justice. I bet there's some up in the zoo.

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#357 October 07, 2007, 07:37:58 pm

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I don't know if any of you have heard the Across the Universe soundtrack, but it would be awesome for tripping to.

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#358 October 07, 2007, 10:58:49 pm

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Ok guys... drug related question RIGHT HERE. I bought a few grams of weed once to share with a few buddies... and I don't know if it was just really stong or what. But I'm wondering if it was laced?? Anyways after I smoked it I got MAJOR paranoia like I was flipping out.. my legs werre shaking and I could barely walk on them... also i felt like EVERYONE in a car or not was looking at me or whispering to someone while looking at me. Do you think it was laced? If so with that?

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#359 October 07, 2007, 11:13:27 pm

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Quote from: ktd182 on October 07, 2007, 10:58:49 pm

Ok guys... drug related question RIGHT HERE. I bought a few grams of weed once to share with a few buddies... and I don't know if it was just really stong or what. But I'm wondering if it was laced?? Anyways after I smoked it I got MAJOR paranoia like I was flipping out.. my legs werre shaking and I could barely walk on them... also i felt like EVERYONE in a car or not was looking at me or whispering to someone while looking at me. Do you think it was laced? If so with that?

Well, even if it was laced it would be extremely difficult to determine what it was laced with. Chances are though, it was not. A lot of people that have uncommon reactions to weed immediately jump to the conclusion that it was laced, but we have to take a few things into consideration first. It would cost the dealer more to lace their product and I doubt that there was a conscious effort to do so and then sell it to someone. In addition, if it were laced, the dealer could probably sell it for more to someone else. You also need to know if all of your friends had similar experiences or just you. Weed can cause anxiety and thus paranoia in some people, especially someone who isn't used to its affects or when taking a much stronger dose than normal. This could easily include a racing heart, trembling, and rapid and disorganized thinking.

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#360 October 07, 2007, 11:30:48 pm

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Hahah, well I was the only one who got that trip. But it wasn't close to my frist time. I had smoked weed for ahile before this one. I don't know. Anyways I was wondering, a buddy and I are wanting to try lsd and shrooms. In your oppinion which would be safer to take first? I always worry about taking hallucinagens cause I'm scared I'm going to get a bad trip and do something dumb or hurt myself :-/

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