Scary New Season of Heroes [SPOILERS] (Read 19150 times)

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I am pretty sure the snow falls in miami thing, is that they(the group of heroes) stopped the tsunami, or something...or stopped someone else from making one?

I dunno, also, Kensei obviously doesnt have OMG AWESOME POWERS, since the company were holding him prisoner, and he ended up using peter to escape
"He escaped 2 weeks ago" is what Bob said
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Also did anyone get that snow falls in Miami thing?

I got a theory! Remember how Molly's parents were killed and frozen from Sylar? I think maybe Molly's dad or mom had the cryokinesis power and he froze the tsunami or something. I dunno.

Adam is pretty obviously just immortal-esque, due to not aging, etc. I don't think he could learn to heal others; they're totally different. Candice, Matt, and Morrie all had very similar powers but different areas. Candice was good at illusions, while Matt was good at reading the mind, while Morrie apparently specialized in 'nightmares' and the like. They all deal with messing with other people's minds, so that's different from cell-regeneration, etc.
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Seeing as how Adam's power is simply celluar regeneration in himself, it would make more sense if he was able to extend this power in order to produce extraneous body parts rather than being induce regeneration in others (although Bob did say that Linderman, the only actual "healer" we've seen was his "disciple", so if you wanted to take a loose interpretation of that, I assume that it is possible...). 
If Adam has a power like Peter's, that means he would have needed to come in contact with someone else with cellular regeneration, which is possible, but more complicated than just assuming that regenerative ability is his only power. In addition, he most likely would have demonstrated some time control abilities during the time that Hiro spent with him.

(I thought that Maurie's power was supposed to be pretty much identical to Matt's, just brought up to a higher level...)
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Seeing as how Adam's power is simply celluar regeneration in himself, it would make more sense if he was able to extend this power in order to produce extraneous body parts rather than being induce regeneration in others (although Bob did say that Linderman, the only actual "healer" we've seen was his "disciple", so if you wanted to take a loose interpretation of that, I assume that it is possible...). 
If Adam has a power like Peter's, that means he would have needed to come in contact with someone else with cellular regeneration, which is possible, but more complicated than just assuming that regenerative ability is his only power. In addition, he most likely would have demonstrated some time control abilities during the time that Hiro spent with him.

(I thought that Maurie's power was supposed to be pretty much identical to Matt's, just brought up to a higher level...)

Matt's and Maurys have the same power, Maury's just better at it but Matt's learning quickly, especially since he trapped Maury in his own nightmare. I remember in the alternate future Matt could read entire minds in a few seconds, not just surface thoughts, even if they didn't think in English (Hiro).
I don't think you can really strengthen your own cellular regeneration it's pretty powerful as it is and they have no control over it, I don't think it would extend to healing others that seems to be a seperate power (especially since Linderman didn't heal himself).
Last Edit: November 07, 2007, 11:10:36 pm by Severus
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Alright, I'm convinced that Adam isn't like Peter. Matt, Maury, the Haitian, and Candice all probably fall under the same power. They can all manipulate the mind. And I believe it was Maury that caused Peter to have amnesia.
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    'Heroes' Creator Apologizes to Fans
    Tim Kring admits mistakes were made at the beginning of season 2, but promises to get back on track
   
    ''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us,'' says Kring of the love stories starring Claire and Hiro
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    Jeff Jensen, an EW senior writer, has been despondent since the cancellation of ''Twin Peaks''

    On the chilly Monday morning that Hollywood's writers went on strike, Heroes creator Tim Kring called from the streets outside the Hollywood studio where his NBC series is shot. ''Yes, I'm picketing my own show,'' says the 50-year-old writer-producer. ''So surreal.''

    But Kring wasn't calling to discuss labor woes - he was calling to explain why Heroes, suffering a creative decline and a 15 percent ratings drop from the same period last year, went from Human Torch hot to Iceman cold. The good news? A turnaround appears to be under way. After weeks of sluggish storytelling, the Nov. 5 episode recaptured some of last season's fanciful energy. We've also seen the next two episodes - and we like them, too. The cliff-hangers are back. Narrative purpose has been discovered. Old favorites like Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) and Horn-Rimmed Glasses (Jack Coleman) take center stage. Even more encouraging: Kring himself is keenly aware that Heroes is broken. Here's his candid critique:

    THE PACE IS TOO SLOW ''We assumed the audience wanted season 1 - a buildup of intrigue about these characters and the discovery of their powers. We taught [them] to expect a certain kind of storytelling. They wanted adrenaline. We made a mistake.''

    THE WORLD-SAVING STAKES SHOULD HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED SOONER The premonition of nuclear apocalypse created a larger context that unified every story line last season. Kring now sees that Volume 2 (the first 11 episodes of season 2) would have been better served if Peter's vision of viral Armageddon had appeared in the season premiere rather than episode 7. ''We took too long to get to the big-picture story,'' he says.

    THE ROOKIES DIDN'T GREET THEMSELVES PROPERLY New Heroes Monica (Dana Davis), Maya (Dania Ramirez), and Alejandro (Shalim Ortiz) ''shouldn't have been introduced in separate story lines that felt unattached to the show. The way we introduced Elle (Kristen Bell) - by weaving her in via Peter's story line - is a more logical way to bring new characters into the show.'' (That said, Kring says a few newbies won't make it beyond this second volume, which wraps Dec. 3.)

    HIRO WAS IN JAPAN WAY TOO LONG Hiro's (Masi Oka) time-bending adventure in 17th-century Japan - where he mentored samurai hero Takezo Kensei (David Anders) - finally came to an end on Nov. 5. But Kring says it ''should have [lasted] three episodes. We didn't give the audience enough story to justify the time we allotted it.''

    YOUNG LOVE STINKS Kring regrets sticking Claire (Hayden Panettiere) with a super-dud boyfriend and forcing Hiro to moon over a cutesy princess. ''I've seen more convincing romances on TV,'' he admits. ''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us.''

    Yet while Heroes has finally found some dramatic traction, this second volume is pretty much a wash. The Dec. 3 episode has been retooled to function as a potential season finale - a move inspired by the writers' strike and a desire to give the show ''a clean slate'' when it goes back into production for Volume 3. At that point, Kring wants to craft a rebooted Heroes that can attract new fans and win back those who've tuned out: ''The message is that we've heard the complaints - and we're doing something about it.''

Hopefully this means things will turn out better in the storytelling department in the future. The last episode was good, so it seems like they're finally getting back on the right track. With the writer's strike though that means that we only have 4 episodes left... so we'll have to see.
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It's both good and bad news I suppose. I didn't really mind season 2 though.
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It has been stated by the crew over on their Behind the Eclipse thing at CBR that with enough dedication and practice, people can learn to use other powers within their "school" of powers....the example given was that Matt, his dad, and Candice could all learn to use one another's powers with enough work.  Presumably someone like Kensei, with all the time in the world to study and practice, would be able to extend his powers to whatever their limit is. I'm just not sure what the healers' suite of powers would be. I guess most likely he could probably heal other people now, too, like Linderman. Other than that, I'm sort of at a loss.

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Here's to hoping Sylar learns to absorb powers a-la Peter... He's the worst fucking character now. It'd be great if they made him an anti-hero instead of... You know, generic evil.

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Ooh, that article really is some good news. At least they're acknowledging how much Hiro's storyline sucked. Other shows' writers and producers have a tendency to deny that it's their fault when a show starts to suck.
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Am I the only one who actually liked that timeline?

Man, I guess I'm to much of a Japfag.
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Oh man.... The 'original' Kensei turns out to be Adam in the modern world as part of the group of 9 (or was it 12?)... Parkman's dad was used by Adam AND PETER.. WHAT THE FUCK, this is crazy GOOD NOW...

And frig... I was kinda right about Hiro being Kensei in the past... Alright this has gotten me off my feet now... And I think from that painting of Noah dead and Mohinder with the gun.... I think Mohinder ends up killing off Noah...
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I'm pretty sure Peter and Adam probably never formally met. Adam is definitly manipulating Peter and his amnesia to make him believe they were old friends and were going to take down the company. He knows how powerful Peter is, so he probably wanted to recruit him.
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Am I the only one who actually liked that timeline?

Man, I guess I'm to much of a Japfag.
I liked it too, but I have also been accused of japfaggery.
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I think Peter and Adam did work together, why else would someone (Kristen Bell) try to kill him for no reason?
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I think Adam and Peter met and escaped together. Adam might be manipulating Peter though, who knows.

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And I think from that painting of Noah dead and Mohinder with the gun.... I think Mohinder ends up killing off Noah...
I think they are trying to make us believe that but something else will happen. Mohinder will kill someone else instead. And I really hope Noah won't die.
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Hmm, the pictures haven't been wrong before. :(

BTW: The picture  that Mat posted of the painting of Peter doesn't have Sylar behind him, it is Nathan.
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Hmm, the pictures haven't been wrong before. :(

BTW: The picture  that Mat posted of the painting of Peter doesn't have Sylar behind him, it is Nathan.

You are both very wrong. I easily recognized the painting is of peter looking at the deaths by the virus of the future. The part that starts at 11.55 minutes of episode "7 - Out of Time" (at this moment the last episode). Easily recognized by the red biohazard sign.

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Edit: Actual all paintings are recognizable in episode 7, only the one with Mohinder and dead Noah are still left (7/8, 8/8).
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You are both very wrong. I easily recognized the painting is of peter looking at the deaths by the virus of the future. The part that starts at 11.55 minutes of episode "7 - Out of Time" (at this moment the last episode). Easily recognized by the red biohazard sign.

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Edit: Actual all paintings are recognizable in episode 7, only the one with Mohinder and dead Noah are still left (7/8, 8/8).

What? The painting of Peter has Nathan standing behind him.
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No he has not, but because you obviously are to lazy to even check my statement out, I'll gladly post some screenshots for you here:





So, please, take a good look at them and prove me wrong again if  you wish, but I guess this is solid evidence.
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Herowned.

In other news, boy, I'm glad to even have Heroes season 2, loving to be easily entertained!