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Well I'll let you guys know since I'm downloading trying the game out soon.
I doubt it's the same as the jap version...but I guess I'll find out and let you guys know.

---UPDATE---
Okay so I tried the game out just now. It seems that Severus is right, the game FUCKING LAGS.
It's a pretty bad slowdown, but it doesn't affect the gameplay. You might be sitting there for an extra 2-3 seconds, but that's it. They also renamed all of the Squire commands. "Guts" is now "Chant" or something. "Static Sword" is now "Judgement Blade", etc. The cutscenes are pretty incredible, and the voice acting is top notch. I haven't gotten far yet, but I'll see what other changes were made along the way. By the way, the dialogue is WAY better than before.
So yeah, the only thing that I'm hating right now is the lag. I find it pretty amazing that the game even lags when you THROW A STONE.
Last Edit: October 02, 2007, 06:51:08 pm by Neophyte
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whoah wait voice acting???

i'm sold.  i don't care even care about the lag, i'm sold.
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The US release apparently has all the fixes. I'm hyped for it. BUT CAN I AFFORD IT!?!?! (PS3 tomorrow... going to burn a hole right through my pocket!)
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The US release apparently has all the fixes. I'm hyped for it. BUT CAN I AFFORD IT!?!?! (PS3 tomorrow... going to burn a hole right through my pocket!)
Um....my post above stated that they DID NOT have all of the fixes. Even the ones that are in the original FFT are not fixed.
Still, it's definately worth the money to buy it. And yeah, the voice acting is awesome. Ramza's voice is PERFECT, as well as Agrias's.
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lol you have warez copy.

clearly the americans are holding the american copy to keep from warez getting hands on
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I'm pretty sure he is playing the Euro version. I don't see the other version out yet and it's supposed to be out Oct 9th (unless it was leaked). I'll be trying that version out now before I get the US Version.
Last Edit: October 03, 2007, 06:14:23 am by Macubex
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Yeah, I am. I seriously doubt the Euro and US version are different. IGN said the US version still had the slowdowns in their review.
You never know, though!
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There is no slowdown... if you have the Slim PSP.
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There is no slowdown... if you have the Slim PSP.
That's simply not true, the lag is a progamming issue not a problem with the psp, custom firmware can set your fat psp to the same processor speed as the slim and it won't make a difference. The easiest and fastest way to notice the lag is to watch Gaffgarion's Shadowblade (Night Sword) in the first battle it's clearly much slower. Even the walking on the spot animation visibly slows to a crawl during laggy attacks. As far as I'm aware the lag is identical to the Japanese version despite claims otherwise.

Why would the US version be fixed when the Euro version released less than a week before wasn't?
If only they had fixed the issues they themselves put into this port such as distorted sound effects, lower music quality (despite their claims of a remastered soundtrack, what is the point) and lag before most attacks then this would be the perfect version of FFT.

I'm enjoying the translation so far, most names are changed but some are still the same such as Wiegraf (a much better name then Wiglaf) but names like Argath Thadalfus aren't really an improvement over Algus Sadalfas. The squire's commands have gone from Accumulate, Throw Stone Dash, Heal to Focus, Stone, Rush and Salve. With Ramza's Guts skillset becoming Mettle with the additional Tailwind (Yell) and Chant (Wish), I don't have Scream or Cheer up yet. Gafgarion's Dark Knight class is now Fell Knight (to further distinguish it from the generic Dark Knight class). The Knight class's command Battle/Break Skill is not "Arts of War" with Power break and the like now being Rend Power. I haven't got this far yet but I know that Rafa and Malak's truth skills now hit up to 10 times and Meliadoul's Mighty Sword skills hit monsters and unequipped humans now as well. Descriptions of monsters, places and abilities are improved, for example monster's descriptions include the full list of their innate abilities and weaknesses rather than the half hearted effort of the first. The quotes from the original Japanese version are back in when you click on a characters name, before it only worked for Specials. Job requirements and JP costs are the same as the Japanese version so they weren't dumbed down for this release. No complaints against the voice acting so far and I haven't tried multiplayer yet but I'm sure I'll need to do some configuration for xlink kai.

Currently at Dorter Trade City.
Last Edit: October 04, 2007, 12:51:22 pm by Severus
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was the dialogue always like that?
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I haven't got this far yet but I know that Rafa and Malak's truth skills now hit up to 10 times and Meliadoul's Mighty Sword skills hit monsters and unequipped humans now as well.
Which is kick ass because Rafa and Malak had potential but their weak skills made the whole HEAVEN and HELL knight thing TERRIBLE.

Man... I'm dreading fighting those two ninjas but I'm curious as to what (or IF) they renamed the stitch ability.  I thought it was fucking lame that they had an instant death move but they were my favorite semi-silent enemies in any final fantasy game.

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was the dialogue always like that?

No.  They pretty much retranslated the entire thing and it's good.  The dialog isn't all dumbed down like the old US release and everything is a lot clearer and makes more sense.  Algus (I'm sorry, I have to call him Algus) is a lot meaner yet he's still a big prissy bitch and the slow change from a loyal friend to a disillusioned soldier by Delita in chapter 1 is a lot more imperative.  In the ps1 version, when his sister is kidnapped he just SUDDENLY becomes all emo and shit but in the PSP version the dialog seems to imply that he's treated as a second class citizen more clearly.  All the scenes involving Miluda are now much more powerful than they originally were.  I haven't gotten far into Chapter 2, but despite the slowdown (which I barely notice, honestly) this is a pretty excellent effort on Square's part to revive a classic that was desperately in need of a face lift...

Because Tactics was my favorite Final Fantasy. 

Delita >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
Last Edit: October 05, 2007, 05:29:44 am by angry black man
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well, i didn't know about all that, but it's good to hear i guess.  i never played the original, so i was thinking i might pick this up, if it really is a better version.  but mostly i meant was the dialogue always full of cheesy references to earlier games.  like all that spoony bard/BUNCH OF GOONS or whatever stuff is kind of disruptive to the rest of the dialogue i think.  it sort of kills the experience, for me, to be reading something and then just sort of out of nowhere have the writers drop a humorous reference to something totally unrelated and outside of the story's universe.
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Square's always included references to their older games.  In Parasite Eve 2, you find an arcade called EINHANDER which Aya says was a good game.  In a weapon shop in Final Fantasy 9, there's a buster sword hanging on a wall and Zidane says "I knew a spikey haired guy who used this!"

It's not like they throw a joke in every paragraph, but Final Fantasy Tactics is probably the darkest of the FF stories so they just tossed a little humor in to keep things from getting too dramatic.

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lower music quality (despite their claims of a remastered soundtrack, what is the point)
Wait, what?  Lower quality music?  Dude, I can actually hear INSTRUMENTS in this version... it sounds like it was recorded with an actual orchestra or atleast a small band of woodwinds. 

Maybe your speakers are fucked up or you played some sort of godly ps1 version because the PSP music is miles above the ps1.
Last Edit: October 05, 2007, 05:57:53 am by angry black man
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Um....my post above stated that they DID NOT have all of the fixes. Even the ones that are in the original FFT are not fixed.
Still, it's definately worth the money to buy it. And yeah, the voice acting is awesome. Ramza's voice is PERFECT, as well as Agrias's.

I meant now that I bought a PS3, will I be able to afford FFT:TLW?
It was a rhetorical question. :P
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I also stopped at Dorter City. The game lag isn't as bad as people say it is. It's a known fact that certain (or most) moves will lag but it isn't really bothering me too much. I played the game expecting it, I witnessed it, I forgot about. The only reason why I even remembered it was because it was mentioned in this topic multiple times. I don't know about later when you learn all those flashy moves and what not though.

Overall, it's pretty darn good. There are some multi-player features available in this one as well. Like the whol rendevous thingy where you join up with other people via Ad-hoc and do missions. I pretty much play my games privately at home or something when I'm bored so I don't think I'll get to try this out. You can take your party and battle another person over Ad-hoc as well (items are restored after battle as well).

It's funny, long ago I hated FFT so damn much. I got a little accustomed to it in the later years of the old playstation. Now, I am enjoying this old gem from time to time.
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Maybe your speakers are fucked up or you played some sort of godly ps1 version because the PSP music is miles above the ps1.

Maybe, but the sound effects are definitely inferior and distorted for some things.

I've spent the past few days trying to get the Dark Knight (Master Knight, Black Mage, Job Level 8 in Dragoon, Samurai , Geomancer and Ninja and have that unit kill- as in crystalise/treasure chest 20 foes, poach doesn't count). I'll probably then spend ages lowering that unit's faith to 03.

I have the Onion Knight class but I haven't used it yet since I know it will be crap until I mastered a load more jobs. The Onion Knight class can't set abilities, level up or gain EXP. It's based purely on other jobs, but it gets very strong at Job Level 8 and some of it's unique multiplayer equipment makes it more powerful than Orlandu. Currently at the start of chapter 3.
Last Edit: October 10, 2007, 12:01:15 pm by Severus
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you join up with other people via Ad-hoc and do missions.

Somehow I forgot about that!?
:| I guess I gotta buy two copies then, since me and my friend will be working through the game co-op, if possible. :fogetmmh:
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Somehow I forgot about that!?
:| I guess I gotta buy two copies then, since me and my friend will be working through the game co-op, if possible. :fogetmmh:
The missions aren't story related, you choose them from the pub and more are unlocked as you progress through the game. They're like saving a bunch of chocobos from poachers to an allstar fight against various bosses or the special playable characters (including Ramza) and some of them are quite hard.
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So I stole this game, because it was leaked, and I have a road trip this weekend, and I COULDN'T WAIT OKAY.

Anyway, it's ridiculously amazing.  It lags a bit, and yes, it *does* make the game worse, but it's still one of my favorite games ever and I can't tear myself away from my PSP.  I keep pooping at times that I don't need to poop, because it gives me an excuse to play.

The translation is excellent and really makes the game shine.

Does anyone else think this version is more difficult?  I am avoiding grinding, which I used to do constantly (grinding is pretty fun in this game), so it might be that.  But I seriously think it is harder.

It also bums me out that I can't play the co-op missions by myself.  It drives me nuts knowing that there is this way cool content on the UMD that I'll never get to see, because I don't have any friends.
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So I stole this game, because it was leaked, and I have a road trip this weekend, and I COULDN'T WAIT OKAY.

Anyway, it's ridiculously amazing.  It lags a bit, and yes, it *does* make the game worse, but it's still one of my favorite games ever and I can't tear myself away from my PSP.  I keep pooping at times that I don't need to poop, because it gives me an excuse to play.

The translation is excellent and really makes the game shine.

Does anyone else think this version is more difficult?  I am avoiding grinding, which I used to do constantly (grinding is pretty fun in this game), so it might be that.  But I seriously think it is harder.

It also bums me out that I can't play the co-op missions by myself.  It drives me nuts knowing that there is this way cool content on the UMD that I'll never get to see, because I don't have any friends.
Poop.  :gwa:

Like I told you though, I don't think it's that difficult yet, but I haven't gotten too far. When I got into my first random encounter, it was pretty tough. If I didn't have Ramza, I might have died.
I wish the missions weren't Ad-hoc only. Infrastructure multiplayer would be fucking AWESOME.
Oh, and the only thing I don't like about the translation are the name changes to moves like "Guts" and "Yell". Now I always have to press select to see what each move does. Oh, and it's ALGUS.... I just can't say Argath. I'm pretty sure anybody who played the PSX version can't say Argath.
Last Edit: October 05, 2007, 10:09:21 pm by Neophyte