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#41 October 10, 2007, 04:09:09 pm

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I still haven't got it!!

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#42 October 10, 2007, 04:48:53 pm

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I haven't listened to all of it yet, but so far my favorite track is Nude. It kind of sucks that I missed out on CD2, but I guess I could just torrent that when it comes out.

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#43 October 10, 2007, 05:26:56 pm

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Quote from: dangerousned on October 10, 2007, 03:53:31 pm

if you got shitty speakers maybe but cymbals always sound washed out as fuck to me at that bitrate!

I really don't like listening to much below 192. and it's more the principle of the fact that some people did PAY for it and they should at least get a good bitrate.

standard itunes tracks are 128kbps aac and people pay for that. if you want super high quality for your golden ears, wait for the cd release. they cant be expected to cater for audiophiles when 99% of listeners are absolutely fine with 160kbps. raising the quality would also raise their bandwidth cost considerably.

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#44 October 10, 2007, 06:44:53 pm

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...are you kidding.

Radiohead fans are the biggest fucking audio dorks on the planet.

ahahaahahahhaha you're not serious dude. go on any other music forum and you will see at least half of them kind of pissed off about the fact that they paid money for a shittier version. some of them expected FLAC lossless shit.

99% of listeners are also fine with commercial radio but we're not talking about LISTENERS, we are talking about the most intense fans for a band that made a name for subtle audio tricks.

edit: also I'm glad I never buy shit from Itunes if you're serious. most music sharing sites ban your account if you upload anything less than 192, let alone fucking 128.

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#45 October 10, 2007, 07:05:08 pm

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I don't know why everyone is bitching about the audio. It sounds fine.

I think Faust Arp is my favorite track.

Quote from: dangerousned on October 10, 2007, 06:44:53 pm

...are you kidding.

Radiohead fans are the biggest fucking audio dorks on the planet.

I go to a Radiohead fan forum, and they seem fine with it. Just a few people bitching. Like here, like you. I am a big Radiohead fan, but I like the music first. My copy of Headphone Masterpiece by Cody Chesnutt is 64kbps, and I listen to it all of the time- it's still a fantastic album.

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#46 October 10, 2007, 07:08:18 pm

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perhaps it is 160kbps because you can choose between a price of FREE and WHATEVER

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#47 October 10, 2007, 09:38:18 pm

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Quote from: ASE on October 10, 2007, 07:08:18 pm

perhaps it is 160kbps because you can choose between a price of FREE and WHATEVER

that's not a good enough excuse for people who paid the whatever though. plenty of people paid the price they would, were the album available in stores, since they didn't have 80 dollars to spend on a boxset. that's a complete ripoff for anyone who paid more than free, and I know plenty of people (like I said, despite what prefix says, most Radiohead fans are huge audio buffs) who are pretty disappointed considering the previously high standards the band has set!

I...don't see how anyone is arguing it is a good thing they released the album in two formats only, one of which costs 80 dollars and the other of which you have to take a shitty quality regardless of what you pay?

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#48 October 10, 2007, 11:19:59 pm

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Whoa this is exciting. Listening to it now. The first track is like a mix of Eraser and Thief maybe I dunno.

They should have mentioned the bitrate on the website, but it's not like 160 kbs is not listenable or anything. Most people will actually not notice nor give a shit. Someone who paid for the album at all is a dork, kid. It is FREE after all. I bought the box and assumed the download would include disc 2 though but wahtever, I can wait. And then I will burn it to my mp3 player and listen with 200 dollar headphones.

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#49 October 10, 2007, 11:38:29 pm

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Quote from: Schalt on October 10, 2007, 11:19:59 pm

Whoa this is exciting. Listening to it now. The first track is like a mix of Eraser and Thief maybe I dunno.

They should have mentioned the bitrate on the website, but it's not like 160 kbs is not listenable or anything. Most people will actually not notice nor give a shit. Someone who paid for the album at all is a dork, kid. It is FREE after all. I bought the box and assumed the download would include disc 2 though but wahtever, I can wait. And then I will burn it to my mp3 player and listen with 200 dollar headphones.

well, KID, maybe you didn't realize this, but you were supposed to pay for it pretty much if you wanted to support the band at all. so basically anyone who gave money to support the band and this experiment is a dork, cool. this from the guy who spent 200 dollars on headphones and 80 dollars on a box set.

it must be nice sitting on an ivory tower and disdaining people who didn't have 80 dollars to waste but still wanted a product that they paid for! OH BUT SOME PEOPLE GOT IT FOR FREE okay cool whoopee still a ripoff for the ones who paid!

how am I the only one following the line of thought here that just because something was potentially free does not mean having it shitty is good. do you seriously think people who don't like Radiohead are downloading this album? the ones who would have bought the album are also usually the ones who would donate money for a scheme like this, and it's pretty ridiculous that they get a subpar version than if they had gone through the corporate bullshit and bought a cd in the record store, or to expect them to pay 80 fucking dollars for a version where the cymbals don't sound like they are underwater, for a band that once again is pretty important to listen to as clearly as possible.

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#50 October 10, 2007, 11:50:13 pm

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Well usually you don't go ahead and spend money on any product until you have an idea of what it is you're buying. Most people learn that early in life.

WHat I am saying is anyone who handed Radiohead their money when they could easily have got it for free is a pretty big fan so they won't get ANGRY or anything if it turns out the product isn't exactly what they expected. Plus man everyone is just gonna bittorrent the 320 kbs version in 2 months anyway so who cares?

I don't have 200 dollar headphones too I was just kidding.

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#51 October 10, 2007, 11:50:18 pm

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MAN this album feels underproduced after Kid A/Amnesiac/Hail to the Thief.

I'm liking it so far but I've heard live versions a while back and it's kind of hurting my brain hearing the "official" album versions. Like I heard this live version of Arpeggi that didn't have any drums or anything like that, it was very minimalist and I still think I like that version better. I think that version needed more but not in this way, this is just more layers.

But yeah then again I like way weirder music than this usually, so I was hoping for KID B or something when I downloaded it.

Edit: Bodysnatchers is pretty awesome, I love the second part, it's so reminiscent of Paranoid Android but it seems to end up in a different place than that song.

And Nude reminds me of the theme from Platoon combined with How to Disappear Completely, for some reason.

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#52 October 10, 2007, 11:54:55 pm

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oh also this album wasn't that great! I'm kind of surprised Prefix liked it so much. Yorke's voice is a little better but yeah, it was just aight.

Quote from: Schalt on October 10, 2007, 11:50:13 pm

Well usually you don't go ahead and spend money on any product until you have an idea of what it is you're buying. Most people learn that early in life.

WHat I am saying is anyone who handed Radiohead their money when they could easily have got it for free is a pretty big fan so they won't get ANGRY or anything if it turns out the product isn't exactly what they expected. Plus man everyone is just gonna bittorrent the 320 kbs version in 2 months anyway so who cares?

I don't have 200 dollar headphones too I was just kidding.

they are actually pretty mad dude! I am looking at a topic now and a lot of people are kind of ticked because they were paying full price for an album that is pretty low fidelity. I'm not making shit up just to cause trouble, there's actually a bit of angry backlash.

granted, it's just nerds grumbling but if Radiohead does this again, they probably won't give them a dime. it's pretty sad because you will go into discussion threads and someone will say "how good fidelity do you think?" and they will all say "OH RADIOHEAD...YOU WON'T DO US WRONG" and then two pages later they are all "nooooooooo...thom why...."

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#53 October 11, 2007, 12:00:28 am

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Man maybe it would help if there was some weird production or album art or something, because it feels so much like a COLLECTION OF SONGS now when the other albums had a pretty pervasive mood to them. This just feels like a bunch of tracks in sequence. I dunno, I guess all the tracks are STRINGY or something.

Edit: I kind of REALLY LIKE Faust Arp because I can't predict where the song is going to go at all

plus the name reminds me of Faust

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#54 October 11, 2007, 01:00:39 am

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Quote from: dangerousned on October 10, 2007, 11:54:55 pm

oh also this album wasn't that great! I'm kind of surprised Prefix liked it so much. Yorke's voice is a little better but yeah, it was just aight.

It's a matter of opinion really. I think this album is definitely something that will grow on you if you listen to it enough.

-I like it because it's stripped down and very minimal in some spots.

-Thom's voice is excellent quality, and very focal. He is incredibly clear and very delicate.

-Jonny Greenwood's arrangements are also a very big highlight. He has improved so much as a musician, and I think that the string arrangements are really what moves this album along.

-The lyrics are also a big reason why I love this album. Every single song has very beautiful lyrics, and really, most of them are love songs which Radiohead doesn't seem to produce all the time - they lightened up as a whole - but its incredibly eerie at the same time. I love the guitar riffs a lot as they are all so fresh - I love that slow guitar riff in 15 step.

-It also seems that this album isn't so tightly wound or strict like the other ones were with the exception of HTTT (Hail to the Theif). It doesn't seem they felt so perfectionist, and they might have been, but they worked at their own pace so it didn't reflect in their music. Things are a lot more loose. A lot more comfortable. I think I could compare to Radiohead right now to a worn out shoe that fits now the way you want it to fit. It's got a few smudges on it, but you like them more than a new pair of shoes- which I would consider OK Computer to be.

-The climax's in the songs give me goosebumps, most notable, All I Need.

-It is not the same as Radiohead's other albums, and I think it's a great direction they were heading. It has a very romantic, but also equally eerie and colorful and very serious theme to it. It's so distinct, but I could not put words to it. It can be so fucking RAW with songs like Bodysnatchers (and to a lessor extent, Jigsaw Falling Into Place,) but so smooth with Faust Arp and Nude. It is very dreamlike, especially tracks like Arpeggi. Which, I think the title of the album "In Rainbows" fits perfectly.

-Anyway, it definitely has a large sense of accomplishment and a sense of everything being alright no matter.

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#55 October 11, 2007, 01:10:11 am

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My only complaint is that it's too short. I played it like 5 times already and it's only getting better, but I want the second disc, dammit.

Thom's voice reminds me a lot of the Eraser, but it's so much more of a vibrant album instrument-wise that he sounds mellow and pleasant comparatively. The bells in All I Need and violins in Faust Arb are very classy, it's symphonic in a way.

This is how the band has always wanted to sound and it is pretty great I think.

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#56 October 11, 2007, 01:56:54 am

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Quote from: Schalt on October 11, 2007, 01:10:11 am

My only complaint is that it's too short. I played it like 5 times already and it's only getting better, but I want the second disc, dammit.

yeah I think that's the issue. the themes feel a little underdeveloped atm.

I see a download for the bonus disc right now so I guess I will tell you what I think after that?

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#57 October 11, 2007, 10:10:14 am

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I've found what claims to be 320kbps on Isohunt . Anyone want to verify as I'm shitty at detecting quality differences.

Edit: Also, does anyone else think they've heard Videotape's intro piano before?

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#58 October 11, 2007, 01:30:50 pm

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I think I noticed there was a sample from Kid A or OK Computer somewhere - maybe they re-used the odd pianos at the very end of Karma Police?

For some reason when I thought Radiohead and pianos that sprung into my head.

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#59 October 11, 2007, 04:50:34 pm

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Quote from: holloway on October 11, 2007, 10:10:14 am

I've found what claims to be 320kbps on Isohunt . Anyone want to verify as I'm shitty at detecting quality differences.

Edit: Also, does anyone else think they've heard Videotape's intro piano before?

There is no 320kbps release, it's just the 160kps release. The 160kbps is the only available format for this album currently

Quote from: dangerousned on October 10, 2007, 06:44:53 pm

...are you kidding.

Radiohead fans are the biggest fucking audio dorks on the planet.

ahahaahahahhaha you're not serious dude. go on any other music forum and you will see at least half of them kind of pissed off about the fact that they paid money for a shittier version. some of them expected FLAC lossless shit.

99% of listeners are also fine with commercial radio but we're not talking about LISTENERS, we are talking about the most intense fans for a band that made a name for subtle audio tricks.

edit: also I'm glad I never buy shit from Itunes if you're serious. most music sharing sites ban your account if you upload anything less than 192, let alone fucking 128.

radiohead fans on the internet are the biggest audio dorks on the planet. if you really think a few nerds on forums represent anything but a tiny share of radiohead's market, you're wrong.

Quote from: dangerousned on October 10, 2007, 09:38:18 pm

I...don't see how anyone is arguing it is a good thing they released the album in two formats only, one of which costs 80 dollars and the other of which you have to take a shitty quality regardless of what you pay?

anyone who looked around before putting down there money would realise radiohead have stated a standard retail release early next year.

anyone who pays a lot of money for a digital download where no information was given for the quality and then saying GODDAMN YOU RADIOHEAD I EXPECTED LOSSLESS FLAC YOU CUNTS when THEY NEVER PROMISED ANYTHING EXCEPT THAT YOU WOULD GET A DOWNLOAD OF THE ALBUM. if they were that bothered about quality then maybe they should have WAITED to find out what the quality was, or waited for the retail release.

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#60 October 11, 2007, 05:00:02 pm

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Quote from: microsoft word document on October 11, 2007, 04:50:34 pm

There is no 320kbps release, it's just the 160kps release. The 160kbps is the only available format for this album currently
radiohead fans on the internet are the biggest audio dorks on the planet. if you really think a few nerds on forums represent anything but a tiny share of radiohead's market, you're wrong.anyone who looked around before putting down there money would realise radiohead have stated a standard retail release early next year.

anyone who pays a lot of money for a digital download where no information was given for the quality and then saying GODDAMN YOU RADIOHEAD I EXPECTED LOSSLESS FLAC YOU CUNTS when THEY NEVER PROMISED ANYTHING EXCEPT THAT YOU WOULD GET A DOWNLOAD OF THE ALBUM. if they were that bothered about quality then maybe they should have WAITED to find out what the quality was, or waited for the retail release.

you got a sentence fragment!

also uh...the radiohead fans on the internet maybe just maybe are the ones who found out about this? I mean, the ones NOT ON THE INTERNET are not ones who are going to find out about this. also nerds on the internet are a huge part of radiohead's market! I don't see how you can say THEY ARE SMALL when this entire experiment caters to those exact fans that would find out first.

also also your options are paying a price to support the experiment and get a shitty version, paying 80 dollars for a box set, or waiting...what is it, OCTOBER? at least three months of waiting?

that doesn't make this a successful experiment at all, and they fucked up by giving a shitty version for download!

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