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Mass Effect looks like a great game. Too bad I don't have a 360, nor do I want one anytime soon. Hopefully Bioware chooses to rerelease on PC at some point.

I'll be kicking myself for not having a ps3.

Lol. I already am. I preordered and paid off Assassin's Creed. Picked it up yesterday when it came out, but I don't have a PS3 yet. Fuck.
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Amazing game. But there is a few things I am dissapointed about.
The first one is I was expecting there to be all these awesome planets to explore. Fair enough there is planets to explore, but most of them look like some randomly generated terrain with maybe one or two small features added to them, which was maybe related to some generic quest (such as collect X amount of [item]).
Secondly was Biotic powers. When I'd read about them in the past I though they'd be similar to the force from Star Wars and I'd have all these awesome powers to play with. What I got was... 6(?) boring skills of which two of them had very similar effects (Lift and Stasis both disabled enemies), one wasn't useful at all (I never found a decent use for Singularity, I tried using it then launching a grenade, but it's duration was way to short and the grenade wouldn't even reach the enemies before they'd all ran of) and the rest though somewhat useful had either too short a duration, or a delay that was way to long. Also :[ I was expecting throw to be like some sort of gravity gun that I could use to launch enemies all over the place, but it turns out all I get to do is knock enemies over!
And having melee combat would have been nice too. I can understand why it wasn't really added (Gun > Sword, no exception), but it would have been nice to have at least (because it is really annoying when you are taking cover only to have some massive enemy charge right past you and blow you to pieces while you are trying to get off a wall while flailing a gun around!)

But yeah, other than those it is one of the best games I have played for a really long time. Other games of a similar genre should learn from it!
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It really isn't 25 hours though unless if you're skipping thru lots of conversations or something its more like 35-40 imho.

with no walkthroughs or help or anything my first playthrough was about 40, and I skipped a few sidequests, missed the lesbian sex scene (drat), and just starting new game+

i couldn't of done it in 25 if i tried first time thru.

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none of those really did anything to push their genre or anything. thats why I think Mass Effect is a million times better than them. Crysis kind of pushed MP in the FPS genre to a new level, but man I played Bioshock and yeah, its good, okay, but it does nothing that is going to make me judge later FPS's differently.

ME after playing it, I'm probably going to play an RPG later and go "uh wtf? why doesn't it have [feature in ME that makes it a really good cinematic experiance but still makes you feel like you have control].

Bio/Cry/Uncharted are good yeah, but they don't do anything mind blowing, and in the industry now you kind of want to go for mind blowing, because mind blowing is the difference between you making lots of $$$, or making decent money, and no one really wants to make decent money cause of how expensive games are to produce now and days. the only exception to this rule is when you know your game is going to sell like hot cakes, where you could probably make the main character have a full detail homosexual orgy sex scene (assuming you ignored the ESRB and sold it in some SPECIALTY STORE that doesn't care about the ESRB) and still sell millions of copies, like Halo.

Your pretty much acting like I said 'OMG THIS IS TEH WORST GAME EVAR!'

I really don't base my gaming experiences on the dramticness or whatever, whatever is just the most straight up fun and addictive gameplay are the ones I like best.

Rogue Galaxy had shit dungeons, shit characters, and a shit story. But the gameplay is SOO addictive its one of my favorite games released this year.  And before you say "OH so you think RG is better that ME you fanbitch"... I don't.
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i dont think i ever said your choices were cause of fanboyism or anything...so yeah.

Big difference there man!

There is still no way you did everything in 25 hours.

No way.
Last Edit: November 25, 2007, 09:00:48 am by DarkNecrid
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Man, I know your a Sony fanboy, but how could you say that?

Ok erm, yeah.
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We don't care that you're a sony fanboy, we're just having a good laugh because you did everything (which requires more than one playthrough) in 25 hours.  So unless EVERYTHING by your definition is simply beating the game and skipping the achievements or you have some sort of time altering powers, you didn't do EVERYTHING or you certainly didn't time it right.
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I played this for about an hour yesterday, I started the game and it was pretty awesome. The different classes and the need to be "good" at the weapons your using really makes it feel....uh, cool I guess. Not being able to use the sniper well right from the start was coo​
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It took me about 20 hours to beat the game.  I rushed through, though, because I know I'll want to replay it someday.

Anyway, it's possibly my favorite game ever made. 
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I heard one of the makers beat it in less then 5 hours or so, skipping everything possible.
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i've played a decent chunk of it just now and so far it reminds me a lot of deus ex 2 in some good ways. it's mostly the style of the graphics, the music and the atmosphere created by the two. talking to people in this game is a lot of fun. sometimes it gets a bit stupid but i don't really mind. one thing the game done pretty badly was teach me how to play it - for the first 5 hours or so i was barely aware of half of the stuff i was doing and just running along trying to keep up. now i've got a clearer idea of how to play and what the world is all about, but they could have worked the first couple of missions better.

i'm glad i went ahead and bought it.
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I bought Mass Effect today, and I think its really badass so far. I hope Bioware keeps up the good work and makes a third KOTOR!
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I bought Mass Effect today, and so far it's pretty badass. I'm really impressed with Bioware and their work. Now I hope they make a third KOTOR.

(sorry about the double post. The first time I posted, the server seemed to have timed out. I went back to see if my message was actually posted and it wasn't on there. So I did it again.)
Last Edit: November 26, 2007, 05:57:34 pm by Draykon
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Gamespot also gave Twilight Princess an 8.something and there was nearly a mutiny.  Basically, if a "big name game" doesn't get a 9 or above then it's not worth shit as if a fucking NUMBER and one man's opinion has anything to do with how enjoyable a game is.
Gamespot also gave Simpsons Hit & Run 8 or something as well... Can't take that site seriously  :tsk:

Okay, I've been having a discussion with my brother whether Mass Effect is good or not!
Basically he hangs around a forum with geeky tech-nerds (no, geek and nerds are different)! There they share thoughts on the game and how incredibly bad it is.

For one, it's terribly short according to them! I dunno, I've heard 20-25 hours on your first playthrough which is pretty much the standard time for an RPG-like game, summary: I think they are twats on this statement. The second statement is that the framerate sucks as well, but again, almost all games these days show signs of lag every now and then, and as long as it's not waiting around the corner for every 1 minute, I honestly don't care. The third statement is that the AI sucks (remind me where a RPG actually had an impressive AI where they would actually just hit you in the head with a sword rather than waiting for you to do your attacks and blast them into an oblivion).

Oh well, that was just some random crap I wanted to type down... bye
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For one, it's terribly short according to them! I dunno, I've heard 20-25 hours on your first playthrough which is pretty much the standard time for an RPG-like game, summary: I think they are twats on this statement. The second statement is that the framerate sucks as well, but again, almost all games these days show signs of lag every now and then, and as long as it's not waiting around the corner for every 1 minute, I honestly don't care. The third statement is that the AI sucks (remind me where a RPG actually had an impressive AI where they would actually just hit you in the head with a sword rather than waiting for you to do your attacks and blast them into an oblivion).
Unfortunatly most of that is true.
If you don't do any side quests then the game is VERY short. I'd say with no side quests/extra a first playthrough would last 12-15 or so hours. If you know what you're doing it would be easy to half that time. But there is a fair amount of extras and side quests, so if you include those then the length of the game is fairly long. Add to that you can play as different classes and be good or evil and it gives the game a fair amount of replayability (if you ask me, being evil is a how lot more awesome than being good, which is boring).
As for framerate drops. It isn't as bad as people make out. It does happen, and it can make the game unplayable while it is happening, but it rarely happens.
But the AI... Ugh. Enemies can pretty much see you from anywhere on a level, and have 100% accuracy even from the other side of a planet (obviously you can't even see them). But other than that the enemy AI isn't too bad. However... Ally AI is terrible. They will constantly get in your way and jump infront of your bullets, or they will try to shoot through you. The problem with this is that you cannot shoot through an ally and they can't shoot through you because shields block the bullets. That and they like to inappropriately use skills and abilities (such as using a skill that drains shields on an enemy with no shields). And a problem I've had is that they tend to like changing weapons... To weapons they have absolutely no training in, which makes them totally useless until you've forced them to change their weapons back. But I didn't find allies to be too useful later on in the game, I'd more or less end up using them as meat shields while I picked off enemies with a sniper rifle (which will 1 hit kill more or less anything later on in the game).

But yeah. The only one of those that really annoys me is when allies jump infront of bullets (or sometimes grenades... Oh how fun it is to commit accidental suicide with a grenade!). The others don't have that much of an impact on the game at all (if you play through twice, one good and one evil and do everything you should be able to get at least 50-60 hours of gameplay out of it, and the slowdowns tend to only happen at the start of an area).
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We don't care that you're a sony fanboy, we're just having a good laugh because you did everything (which requires more than one playthrough) in 25 hours.  So unless EVERYTHING by your definition is simply beating the game and skipping the achievements or you have some sort of time altering powers, you didn't do EVERYTHING or you certainly didn't time it right.
please stop being an idiot, man.  half of this entire topic has been you and darknecrid acting like morons over whether the guy technically did EVERYTHING 100% COMPLETE or whether he just beat the game like a normal person.  maybe when he said everything he meant, ohhhhhh i don't know... everything worthwhile?  as in, he did not play through the game multiple times to access the secret lesbian sex scene!!! perhaps because he is not a creepy bastard (seriously who the fuck would actively seek something like this out and what is wrong with you if you did).
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please stop being an idiot, man.  half of this entire topic has been you and darknecrid acting like morons over whether the guy technically did EVERYTHING 100% COMPLETE or whether he just beat the game like a normal person.  maybe when he said everything he meant, ohhhhhh i don't know... everything worthwhile?  as in, he did not play through the game multiple times to access the secret lesbian sex scene!!! perhaps because he is not a creepy bastard (seriously who the fuck would actively seek something like this out and what is wrong with you if you did).

its not like i actively seeked it out (cause i dont use guides for RPGs) i found it on my own, and its not even that bad cause they don't show anything AT ALL. they just hint at it. i think they changed it cause some random country was going to ban the game there if they didn't.

its just dumb that he complains the game is short, gives an unreasonable amount of time he beat it + everything in, and then complains its short.

it isnt short if you idk, actually explore everything and do all the side quests or at least a good amount of them, and replay it to get all the extras in the NG+, but apparentally its okay to say something is short and complain about it when you do like half the game.

if thats the case then a lot of games are very short.

its just not a very valid point.
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uh, not that i have played the game or anything, but what i'm saying here isn't even specific to this game, so i think it's more or less okay.  i think we need to differentiate between content and, again, worthwhile content.  you're saying you can't complain about a game being short because they throw a bunch of stupid shit at you that adds a couple dozen hours onto it?  that's dumb.  i don't think 25 hours is too short for a game, but if you do, and a game takes that amount of time to beat if you just play the GOOD parts of it, then yeah, that is too short.  it doesn't matter if there are lame, shallow, and irrelevant sidequests to perform, or if you can play it again for slightly new features (are you seriously listing this as a reason why a game isn't too short?  because you can PLAY IT AGAIN?  give me a break dude), because all that shit tends to be filler content in a lot of games.

it's perfectly valid to say a game's too short after you beat it and only did the mainquest and not all the other shit you can do, if you think that all the other stuff is fluff/afterthought content they tacked on to add time to the game.  if someone called shadow of the colossus too short, i wouldn't excuse it by saying "well sure but there's the option to ride around aimlessly for 10-20 hours in addition to the main quest so your point isn't very valid."  there's a serious difference between legitimate content and filler content, and at least with kotor, a lot of people seemed to gloss over the fact that the game was pretty short if you didn't do half of the sidequests because they were superficial and uninteresting, and i have a feeling this exact same argument would've been had if someone had come into a forum years ago and said "i beat the game in 15 hours and it was too short" having just beaten the game and not gone out of their way to do every pointless little task.  i wouldn't put it past bioware to do it again, or past people like you to pretend like a game's not too short just because they throw a bunch of stupid shallow shit in it to take up more of your time in addition to the sparse main story.
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Some of the best games I've ever played were pretty short going by what people here are defining as short. Metal Gear Solid, Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, BioShock, etc. Quality>Quantity always.

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Mass Effect, may have a short story, but there are still a number of side quests to do, and replayability because of the multiple classes and "paths" you can go about doing things.
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the side quests add to the backstory and character developement

if you dont think thats worthwhile then i got nothing