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"Oh and Ryan, Ahmadenijad is one strange and wonky dude man I'll admit. However, he is much more educated then Bush and a lot of the members of the Bush Administration. Him questioning the whole holocaust thing is his own problem, however dumb it may sound. Personally, I'm sure the holocaust did happen but I still have a lot of questions and remain skeptical about the deathtoll and other statistics. I think what he is just doing is pushing the whole Zionist control of the media thing to the extreme. It seems he is completely consumed by that idea. Frankly though, I would not be surprised if he was actually right though."

Did someone miss the University speech with this guy? He refused to answer very basic yes or no questions. One of which happened to be, "Did you say that you wanted the destruction of Israel as a state?" There's a difference between education and civility by the way. I don't believe that Ahmadenijad has one ounce of what we would describe as civility. He mentioned that, "There are no homosexuals in Iran like you have here in the United States." ..yeah, because they stone them all. I am not sold on the validity of this man's ability to lead  in a unbiased manner anymore than I am Bush. Though, so what if Bush can't speak all that well? As for the argument that, "Bush would do it if he could." ..I don't think he would, and then you have someone on the opposite spectrum promoting their own propaganda that IS doing it, and has done nothing to condone it. But, this person is more educated and cultured than Bush. If you also noticed? He got offended that they were asking him questions of this nature and walked off stage, saying that he was being treated badly. Why? Because the Press just started to ask him actual legitimate questions about his government and his country that we've heard about for YEARS. Bush deals with this all the time. Hm.

The Holocaust's numbers are accurate simply because of the fact that the Germans were meticulous in their record keeping of all the people they killed and all the ways that they killed them. The numbers are not made up, nor is the evidence, anyone that can honestly have any doubt of this after Germany has admitted it and shunned the Nazi culture? I'm not sure what to say about your point of view on the matter, other than it's absolutely wrong. Yes. Omg. Your opinion on the matter is wrong, and you must have been protected from this 'touchy' subject matter in school.

As for the actual topic. What Israel did here, is morally wrong. I don't blame them for having done it, but I still believe it's wrong that they're punishing the people of the Gaza strip because of people that shoot rockets from the Gaza strip at them. Simply for the fact that, it's likely military from Egypt doing it.

The Palestinians sold the land to the Israelies, The Israelies cultivated it, the Palestinians wanted it back, the Israelies didn't want to give it up. If you look up something called the Six Day Way, you can learn a lot about the war over the Gaza Strip and what all this infighting is all about. It's a LONG read for something that only actually occurred for 6 days, but there's a lot of information in that - that you can't learn from anything else. They've spent more than 40 years trying to undo the effects of this particular event, and that's what a lot of the problems are caused by. This also happens to be why most people are confused as to the ownership over the Gaza Strip. This small footnote in history is the cause of what have been years of aggression and bloodshed.
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Yeah Blizzard your right on a few points there. I'm not entirely sure about the validity of land ownership just yet so I won't comment on that.

I also like to point out that harvard shit is just something I heard and I probablly shouldn't have even mentioned it. It would be nice if someone could try and confirm that though.

As for my viewpoint on the holocaust. I'm not going to sit here and deny it happen when I know for a fact it did, I acknowledge it 100%. I also acknowledge how much the Jewish people suffered and fuck genocide isn't cool at all man. I don't think it's right for you to say I have to believe everything I heard and read about though. I told you I had question SOME statistics personally that's all, am I not entitled to my own opinion on the matter?

I think Israel and Palestine should try there best to work this stuff before it gets even more out of hand. Israel is already in dangerous situation because of it's location and the many muslim enemies they've seem to accumalated. They don't have a very big population either which is even more scarier.

The worst thing that can happen is that Israel provokes even more of the neighbouring countries and Iran gets invovled. Another scenario would be the United States invading Iran which they're definately in no state to try and do right now. I think those two situations would spell a world war.

What do you guys think?
Last Edit: October 28, 2007, 12:53:36 am by Macubex
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" I don't think it's right for you to say I have to believe everything I heard and read about though. "
I didn't quite say that. Again, the Nazi's were incredibly meticulous in their record keeping. That's why we can say for certain how many were killed. Then again, that's not even the greatest genocide in history. Stalin killed more of his own men than Hitler did. We didn't seem to care about that one too much though.

Personally, I think the US should worry more about the mass exodus of Mexico on it's southern border than about countries that aren't even close to being able to actually injure it really.  It has what is essentially a 3rd world country as it's next door neighbor, and has done nothing to attempt to help them.
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Blame the french.  England. Ottoman Empire.
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Blame the french.  England. Ottoman Empire. Roman Empire.

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Blame the french.  England. Ottoman Empire. Roman Empire..Cavemen

Man seriously I don't even wanna comment on this shit anymore... There have been a ton of Palestinian/Israeli threads of issues in the past so you all already know my opinion towards this... but a lot of the comments in this topic have been full of shit and show so much ignorance and bias ism, its sickening.. (Inri on one end and Martini on the other but the Doc makes some worthwhile points that you can't ignore so I'm puzzled as to why Inri's shitty and ignorant comments didn't get as much flack as Martini's!)
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(Inri on one end and Martini on the other but the Doc makes some worthwhile points that you can't ignore so I'm puzzled as to why Inri's shitty and ignorant comments didn't get as much flack as Martini's!)

Because no one has ever taken him seriously (he is practically a joke account).  Doktormartini on the other hand firmly, truly believes everything he says.
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