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And if you ever feel down, just take a look at this informative graphical timeline from the Big Bang to the ultimate end of the universe.
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Yes, you are.

The issue becomes, does that bother you?

Yeah we're doomed, but why not have some fun in the meanwhile?
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bad guys in real life have tonnes more weaknesses than vampires, a steak through the heart of a person will kill them too and it'd be much easier to get close

All those steaks you are eating with go straight to your heart... (then you'll die of a heart attack).

Also, if my only purpose in life is to spread my genetic code, then I am going to spread it all over the place, if you get my meaning.  :fogetnaughty:
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Life has no inherent meaning; death is going to happen; resources dwindle while population rises, and even bloodshed does not slow down the population boom.  Yes.  You are right.  We are powerless.  Does that really matter?  Sometimes, the only way you can function in this world is by trying to ignore the implications, the bigger picture, and focus solely on the little things that bring us comfort.  That is how we live, how we function, and how we find meaning overall.  Worry as much as you like, but, inevitably, short-sightedness is the natural mode of thought for human beings. 
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Are we powerless?

Not with guns like these, skippy *flex*
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I think things will get worse in no less than 50 years.

Just pray to God you die by then.
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No, I haven't, so do you care to explain why I should go watch it? (This is not the WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND topic.)

It deals with the concept of the inevitability of death and the problems of immortality.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=are+we+powerless%3F&go=Go

looks like youve prove da point....
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No. We are not powerless. We were created in the image of the great creator of the universe and we, like our creator, have the ability to create in our own image. It is only a matter of time before we fulfill the promise made to us by our creator and master all reality.
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I have some suggestions if your really want me to go into it. I was being quite vague in this topic, sorry.

Wow I really didn't expect anyone to take me seriously... I just finished reading though your whole post...and yes I would like some suggestions..that is if you would like to contribute to society by talking to a random lost soul whom you me on the internet...which may result in you saving a life....
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We all live in this planet living day to day without worrying about the future,we are stuck in a cycle of consumption as the world population continues to increase,we got wars going on in some parts of the world,and I ask myself,Wars are horrible..but aren't they necessary? Sure making homes in other planets sounds nice in theory but its really expensive and by the time we successfully terraform another planet,it might already be too late, so like I said are wars the only solution? If we had no wars we would die anyways when the planet`s resources died out,plus on top of the current wars we got all those natural disaster going on that been prophesied by both religious people and scientists.

Is there really nothing to be done? I'm just a simple man who will be nothing more than an electrician or a plumber,am I stuck here living everyday just waiting for someone/something higher than me to come and kill me?

And one last thing,why is reality scarier than fiction? In fiction the bad guys always have a weakness(whether its a vampire or a terrorist),but in reality sometimes they don't...I would rather fight demons in hell than have to kill another human

Meh I know I'm gonna get dissed by alot of you..maybe this is the wrong forum to post in..but..
Hahahahahahah this is awesome. War as the way you represent it (getting rid of humans faster?) is completely unnecessary, in fact the notion of a "just" war itself has been hotly debated over the years. The last "just" war that could have occurred would have been World War II in which a commonly accepted "good" conflicted with a commonly accepted "evil."

The lack of resources won't lead to our destruction for some amount of time, and by then alternate solutions will have opened up. Where I live right now is actually the epicenter of alternative resource development in the world and I can say with some certainty (my dad works for one of these companies) that the energy crisis will be averted well before the mutual destruction of the human race. If you are talking about water, we have already established the process of desalination and thus we can take it from seas.

The "prophesied" natural disasters are being overly exaggerated here as well. Sure the Tsunami and Hurricane Katrina were horrible things, but they absolutely did not lead to the mutually ensured extermination of the human race. Overpopulation really isn't that big of a concern, increased education and family planning in overpopulated areas can easily check this back.

In fact I'd argue that your fear of basically everything creates a self-fulfilling prophecy in which the mutually ensured destruction of humanity happens. If everyone lives in a constant state of fear is produces paralysis means that nothing will ever get done to start solving these problems. You're argument that "nothing can be done" is UNIQUELY the reason why these problems are in existence and a threat right now, and the entire apathetic mindset is counterproductive to society as a whole if we are to in fact solve for these problems.
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In fact I'd argue that your fear of basically everything creates a self-fulfilling prophecy in which the mutually ensured destruction of humanity happens. If everyone lives in a constant state of fear is produces paralysis means that nothing will ever get done to start solving these problems. You're argument that "nothing can be done" is UNIQUELY the reason why these problems are in existence and a threat right now, and the entire apathetic mindset is counterproductive to society as a whole if we are to in fact solve for these problems.

Here is the reason why I made this topic..I was sitting there trying to sleep,when I started thinking about Hitler,most of the time when Im chilling with friends and such,I joke around and do the German voice and Nazi sign,we laugh maybe due to the fact that we always think "Why do I care if someone died 50 years previous?",but anyways I was in bed thinking...wow what if someone came into my house started grabbing my family and forced me to go with them to work? then what if they put me in a gas chamber...for a second I almost felt what it would have felt like had it actually happened to me...so I trying to calm down myself by thinking "Meh thats never going to happen to me.." but then like I said before,we got wars all over the world,and USA is only trying to stop the one in Afghanistan,is it because its the biggest war rigth now? I dont know...im not an expert in those things,but while USA spends years in Afghanistan "checking" for weapons of mass destruction while there are people dying in other places...

Anyways as a final statement.. I started thinking ..what if they suddenly said that people were trying to take over the country(I live in Canada btw)would I move somewhere? What could I do?
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Here is the reason why I made this topic..I was sitting there trying to sleep,when I started thinking about Hitler,most of the time when Im chilling with friends and such,I joke around and do the German voice and Nazi sign,we laugh maybe due to the fact that we always think "Why do I care if someone died 50 years previous?",but anyways I was in bed thinking...wow what if someone came into my house started grabbing my family and forced me to go with them to work? then what if they put me in a gas chamber...for a second I almost felt what it would have felt like had it actually happened to me...so I trying to calm down myself by thinking "Meh thats never going to happen to me.." but then like I said before,we got wars all over the world,and USA is only trying to stop the one in Afghanistan,is it because its the biggest war rigth now? I dont know...im not an expert in those things,but while USA spends years in Afghanistan "checking" for weapons of mass destruction while there are people dying in other places...

Anyways as a final statement.. I started thinking ..what if they suddenly said that people were trying to take over the country(I live in Canada btw)would I move somewhere? What could I do?


Make a stand? Or try to contribute? Who cares if you fail? At least you tried. It's not what you do but why you do it.
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Here is the reason why I made this topic..I was sitting there trying to sleep,when I started thinking about Hitler,most of the time when Im chilling with friends and such,I joke around and do the German voice and Nazi sign,we laugh maybe due to the fact that we always think "Why do I care if someone died 50 years previous?",but anyways I was in bed thinking...wow what if someone came into my house started grabbing my family and forced me to go with them to work? then what if they put me in a gas chamber...for a second I almost felt what it would have felt like had it actually happened to me...so I trying to calm down myself by thinking "Meh thats never going to happen to me.." but then like I said before,we got wars all over the world,and USA is only trying to stop the one in Afghanistan,is it because its the biggest war rigth now? I dont know...im not an expert in those things,but while USA spends years in Afghanistan "checking" for weapons of mass destruction while there are people dying in other places...

Anyways as a final statement.. I started thinking ..what if they suddenly said that people were trying to take over the country(I live in Canada btw)would I move somewhere? What could I do?


If you're afraid of losing your life then you have already lost. People put up with the amount of tyranny they will tolerate, and then when they realize they have nothing to lose with rise up against their oppressors. Yes, there are people actively trying to establish a global police state, and no there is no place to run. You can raise your voice now, and try to expose and overthrow our enemies. Or we will have to raise arms against them... and when it gets to that point we will not have anything to lose. You've got to decide right now if you've got power of not.


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Im pretty sure canada is the one occupying afghanistan right now, and im pretty sure your thinking of iraq, anyways just try to live your life and not worry so much; that being said if you care enough try to change it in politics, if not stop bitching. pretty much what im saying is shit or get off the pot.
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If you're afraid of losing your life then you have already lost. People put up with the amount of tyranny they will tolerate, and then when they realize they have nothing to lose with rise up against their oppressors. Yes, there are people actively trying to establish a global police state, and no there is no place to run. You can raise your voice now, and try to expose and overthrow our enemies. Or we will have to raise arms against them... and when it gets to that point we will not have anything to lose. You've got to decide right now if you've got power of not.
This is a pretty popular theory argument among conspiracy theorists but doesn't hold much water in the sphere of the real world and policymaking. I assume you are talking about the US creating this global policing state, so that's what I will base my arguments off of but they can easily apply to other countries.

1. This theory completely assumes the existance of the concept of hegemony and that such a state (hegemon of the world) would actually be obtainable.

2. The theory assumes that the United States is the hegemon of the world.

3. It also doesn't account for the fact that in the theoretical world of hegemony that soft power (eg benevolent relationships with the other nations) is just as key as military hard power. To establish a position of hegemony would mean that the country would need to have good relations with the other nations as well as military power, neither of these can create hegemony alone. This completely takes out the fact of a "global policing state" as such a state that is being described is being achieved through the means of hard power alone.

4. Survival of the state is what justifies tyranny, not hegemony. Nations will do everything and anything they can to ensure the survival of their nation. In a means to "protect the Fatherland" dictators will justify each and every form of dehuminization, tyranny, and rights violations. So in fact it will not be the hegemon specifically being the tyrant, it will be the repressed states. To the point where survival of the nation-state is of upmost importance to the government they will justify every atrocity known to man under the guise of surviving. It is the oppressee, not the oppressor, that justifies tyranny.

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Im pretty sure canada is the one occupying afghanistan right now, and im pretty sure your thinking of iraq, anyways just try to live your life and not worry so much; that being said if you care enough try to change it in politics, if not stop bitching. pretty much what im saying is shit or get off the pot.

Your telling me to not to worry so much yet you are telling me to "get off" one of the few things that calms me down? This is rather contradicting...
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otomon you are so silly
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otomon you are so silly

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Man, you're the worst member ever.

I can't remember the last time I was so irritated by a new member.
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