you can't even get brand new hardware without some corporate virus or ad-ware PRE-INSTALLED on it nowadays??  it's bad enough that companies are already barraging people with their mal-ware shit at every corner of the internet.

They aren't talking about China being a "mean place to live" they are talking about the Chinese using slave labour (there is a huge difference between low wages and slave labour, it is not just a matter of pay) like they are fucking animals or something, and when questioned about it his defence is "YEAH BUT CHINA" like that explains it.

I admit my last post was pretty stupid and I kind of expected to get warned for it (where are lazy mod's??!!?!) but it is just a gut reaction to over saturation by the media (China is bad because of socialism) and I'm not OK with that (I am not a media conspiracy nut or anything but China gets a pretty raw deal)!

I am curious whether or not, if these drives came from some manufacturer stateside, people would just blame Americans (or maybe it was the Mexicans!) or something. Just because one company (or one individual factory) has poor standard operating procedures does not mean anyone should indite the Chinese people (or government or any combination of the two) as a whole. I am aware that there have been more than one instances of this, but while there exists in China a completely alien market structure that may sometimes facilitate negligence, that doesn't mean it promotes it.

Plus I really don't like Pepoke and his person offends me.