I don't think its truly selling out if a band commercialises its sound more.

so says someone with paris hilton in their avatar

mozart

This was the only thing that made me lol.

I'd definitely say that Saosin started sucking ass when they acquired Cove Reber. Sure, Anthony Green may have an unorthodox voice and high pitch screams, but he was a good frontman. Cove Reber doesn't have nearly the range at all or the lyrical awesomeness of Green. But guess who I heard on the radio a little bit ago with some gay fucking single. That's right. Reber. Not really sure whether I'd call it selling out by Saosin in getting some mediocre talented douche for a new singer or just a bad decision on whoever owned that radio station to put them on the air.

if a band sounds commercial to begin with-> it is impossible for them to sell out
if a band sounds a certain way and gets better-> this is not selling out.
if a band sounds a certain way and sacrifices their sound for mainstream appeal-> this is selling out.

What about "if a band sounds a certain way and gets worse, but for no reason related to mainstream appeal (like just getting older / run out of ideas / bad idea for a new direction)"?

What about "if a band sounds a certain way and gets worse, but for no reason related to mainstream appeal (like just getting older / run out of ideas / bad idea for a new direction)"?

it has nothing to do with selling out, they just got worse over time.

lots of bands do this (All comes to mind).

Aye, I was thinking the same. I wasn't sure what you thought about it though.

it has nothing to do with selling out, they just got worse over time.

lots of bands do this (All comes to mind).

rofl I just realized it sounds like I was saying all music becomes worse.

I was referring to the band All.

Haha, I did have to think about it for a second.