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Moses

#1261 March 05, 2008, 11:54:13 pm

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Quote from: Ryan on March 05, 2008, 06:49:12 pm

it's been stated about 6,000 times that she has to win over 60% of the delegates in every state yet to come to even TIE obama in pledged delegates.

That and she's a giant bitch.

I was really surprised last night's polls turned out the way they did. I was pretty sure Obama would get Texas, and Hillary would get Vermont. I live in Vermont, and everyone I've to whom I've talked has said they're voting/voted for Hillary. I guess that's just my town, though.

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#1262 March 06, 2008, 03:10:22 am

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#1263 March 06, 2008, 03:17:43 am

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not appreciating that one bit rwildcat.

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#1264 March 06, 2008, 04:04:58 am

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Quote from: RWildcat on March 06, 2008, 03:10:22 am

thats funny. i cant stop watchin it

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Cho

#1265 March 06, 2008, 05:37:26 am

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Hillary and Bill aren't the same person? Well damn, you'd think she was basing her entire "experience" claim on her being.. his wife during his presidency or something.

Also that whole "Hey I've been active in politics since I was like, 18, which was before Obama was even born" thing. But let's ignore that and focus on the fact that she was just the First Lady (which, I mean, still, that's more experience in the White House than Obama or McCain).

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And uh, as a DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT, you don't go saying that the other potential DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT is not as qualified to be president compared to the REPUBLICAN nominee for president. Unless of course you're unbelievably desperate and selfish and will stop at nothing to get the nomination, even if it means absolute suicide for you and your party.

So like, McCain shouldn't say that he thinks Obama would make a better president than Ron Paul? It shouldn't be about what's best for the party, it should be about what's best for the American people. HEY MAYBE WE WOULDN'T HAVE AS MANY PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY IF DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS DIDN'T SPEND SO MUCH TIME DEMONIZING EACH OTHER???? idk tho. Frankly, it shows that she's willing to bridge the gap between the parties, something Obama only talks about

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edit: and christ go watch the news or something. it's been stated about 6,000 times that she has to win over 60% of the delegates in every state yet to come to even TIE obama in pledged delegates.

Which, realistically, she could do. In fact, if I were to watch the news right now, they'd all tell me she's gaining momentum or whatever the hell term they're using. But you're right, its not like a Democrat to screw up his front runner status during the primaries by doing something stupid.

Hey I bet if Michigan and Florida get to actually have delegates, I bet all the Obama supporters will call Clinton an evil conniving bitch who's trying to cheat their man out of his nomination.

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Something I don't feel like quoting, but you brought up the telephone ad earlier. I just wanted to point out that Obama's campaign retaliated with this. Obama's just as guilty of fearmongering as Clinton.

Last Edit: March 06, 2008, 05:42:45 am by Cho

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#1266 March 06, 2008, 06:01:54 am

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Quote from: Cho on March 06, 2008, 05:37:26 am

Hey I bet if Michigan and Florida get to actually have delegates, I bet all the Obama supporters will call Clinton an evil conniving bitch who's trying to cheat their man out of his nomination.

what would that make her then?

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#1267 March 06, 2008, 06:53:36 am

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#1268 March 06, 2008, 02:29:28 pm

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The whole thing about experience pisses me off as a basis for voting for someone.

guess who had experience? george w bush!

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#1269 March 06, 2008, 02:42:03 pm

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Using experience as the main criterium makes a dictatorship a very viable alternative.

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#1270 March 06, 2008, 03:04:22 pm

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Quote from: Cho on March 06, 2008, 05:37:26 am

Hey I bet if Michigan and Florida get to actually have delegates, I bet all the Obama supporters will call Clinton an evil conniving bitch who's trying to cheat their man out of his nomination.

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Something I don't feel like quoting, but you brought up the telephone ad earlier. I just wanted to point out that Obama's campaign retaliated with this. Obama's just as guilty of fearmongering as Clinton.

1. You just lost your bet, Obama's stance is that he's all game for Michigan and Florida, as long as they are redone, because his name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan, and In Both states he wasn't allowed to campaign. And he was following the rules layed down.

2. The add was not fear mongering, it was mocking in my opinion, Clintions ad. He even got laughs out of it in the last couple of speeches he made.

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#1271 March 06, 2008, 06:31:07 pm

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It was no surprise Hilary won Texas. Cause they rather choose a white woman than a black man. Racist ass America.

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Ryan

#1272 March 06, 2008, 06:57:38 pm

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Quote from: Cho on March 06, 2008, 05:37:26 am

Also that whole "Hey I've been active in politics since I was like, 18, which was before Obama was even born" thing. But let's ignore that and focus on the fact that she was just the First Lady (which, I mean, still, that's more experience in the White House than Obama or McCain).

how is being active in politics in any way a measure of how much experience you have towards RUNNING A COUNTRY? is rush limbaugh experienced enough to be president? how about chris matthews?

and.. how is being FIRST LADY in any way a qualifier to RUN THE COUNTRY? is barbara bush qualified to run the country? what about betty ford?

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So like, McCain shouldn't say that he thinks Obama would make a better president than Ron Paul? It shouldn't be about what's best for the party, it should be about what's best for the American people. HEY MAYBE WE WOULDN'T HAVE AS MANY PROBLEMS IN THIS COUNTRY IF DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS DIDN'T SPEND SO MUCH TIME DEMONIZING EACH OTHER???? idk tho. Frankly, it shows that she's willing to bridge the gap between the parties, something Obama only talks about

uhh.. no? since when did politicians give a shit about what was best for the american people? they want what is best for them and (concurrently) best for their party. besides, ron paul is not a relevant candidate with a serious chance at the nomination. obama is. hillary is throwing the fucking kitchen sink at him and shit like that will destroy her political career if she fails to get the nomination.

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Which, realistically, she could do. In fact, if I were to watch the news right now, they'd all tell me she's gaining momentum or whatever the hell term they're using. But you're right, its not like a Democrat to screw up his front runner status during the primaries by doing something stupid.

so you think there is a realistic chance that hillary will get 60% (or even win) wyoming, mississippi (largest % of african americans in the country!), indiana, or north carolina? sorry but every one of those states has like 20 point margins between obama and clinton. everyone with even the slightest bit of intelligence knows that clinton can not overturn obama's delegate lead. she just can't. her only option is to convince the superdelegates to swing to her.

and if a huge obama scandal does erupt, ok fine. but that's still besides the point: clinton will not win this thing based on pledged delegates

ssorry to burst your bubble...

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#1273 March 06, 2008, 07:14:35 pm

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Quote from: Velfarre on March 06, 2008, 02:29:28 pm

The whole thing about experience pisses me off as a basis for voting for someone.

guess who had experience? george w bush!

Well yeah, that's a good point, but I think the argument has even worse problems with it.

I think the experience, aside from jading her, makes it likely for her to have a much larger personal agenda. If she were to ultimately win the presidency, the past four presidents will've been bush, clinton, bush, clinton. So yeah, people argue the experience thing as if it's something in her favor, but really it's just highlighting that she's part of a political dynasty, and I don't know why anyone would like that.

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#1274 March 06, 2008, 07:20:57 pm

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Quote from: Velfarre on March 06, 2008, 02:29:28 pm

The whole thing about experience pisses me off as a basis for voting for someone.

Same here. The thing that really pisses me off though is that it's a really stupid argument to make since McCain has a hell of a lot more experience than she does. It's an argument that would backfire on her if she used it in the general election.

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#1275 March 06, 2008, 07:44:39 pm

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Quote from: Impeal on March 06, 2008, 07:14:35 pm

I think the experience, aside from jading her, makes it likely for her to have a much larger personal agenda.

Yeah, that's the thing. Obama is a (relatively) young politician who hasn't allowed himself to be corrupted by the game of politics.

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#1276 March 06, 2008, 08:50:42 pm

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This is insane, Obama raised $55 million dollars during the month of February.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23504993/
I really don't like how Hillary plays that experience card as well. It's obvious experience doesn't matter. I hate how people just want the same shit over again(Bush, Clinton, Bush), it sickens me really.

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The Truth

#1277 March 06, 2008, 09:47:54 pm

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Uh, no to burst your bubble Velfarre but I don't like misinformation being spread.

Dubya had LESS experience than Obama, and ZERO legislative experience.

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#1278 March 06, 2008, 10:47:32 pm

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Yeah he came directly from being a CEO for some oil company I beleive.

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#1279 March 06, 2008, 11:54:28 pm

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Quote from: The Truth on March 06, 2008, 09:47:54 pm

Uh, no to burst your bubble Velfarre but I don't like misinformation being spread.

Dubya had LESS experience than Obama, and ZERO legislative experience.

yeah but he was reelected which means he had experience being a president

he was still FUCKING BAD AT IT

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#1280 March 07, 2008, 12:45:15 am

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Quote from: Ryan on March 06, 2008, 06:57:38 pm

ssorry to burst your bubble...

This is great news. I've been hearing how hard it would be for Hillary to catch up in delegates, but I never understood why. Great article.

I want to see what Cho has to say now.

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