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Vellfire

#401 January 11, 2008, 10:01:40 pm

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Man, I've almost stopped reading Digg because of how much they love Ron Paul. All the posts about his newsletters coming out are ignored or replied to with "WELL HE SAYS HE DIDN'T WRITE THOSE", and there's one that's all about HOW GOOD OF A JOB RON PAUL DID SAYING HE DIDN'T DO IT, and the post goes on and on about "The Ron Paul I love..." That's the essence of it--they don't give a shit what Ron Paul is really like because they're in love with this magical image of him, they don't realize the Ron Paul they love isn't who they want to put in office, it's the real Ron Paul that would be there.

As for Kucinich, does he really think the recount is going to make any difference for him?

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#402 January 11, 2008, 10:08:23 pm

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the recount isn't for him. he payed for it because he thought something was fishy between Obama/Clinton vote. obama got a higher % when the results were handcounted and Clinton got a higher % when Diebold was used or something.

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#403 January 11, 2008, 10:08:56 pm

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Quote from: Velfarre on January 11, 2008, 10:01:40 pm

As for Kucinich, does he really think the recount is going to make any difference for him?

He knows that it won't make any difference for his vote, but I think that it's because he's a bit curious to the debacle between the polls that had Obama winning and the actual vote totals that had him lose. Kucinich has pretty much been in Obama's camp for most of the race so far, going so far as to urge his voters to vote for Obama if they thought that Kucinich had no chance of being viable in the state.

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#404 January 11, 2008, 11:04:21 pm

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Also Kucinich got invited to the Las Vegas debate on the 15th but then NBC Uninvited him. FUCK.

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Wil

#405 January 12, 2008, 05:44:05 am

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http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/new-hampshire-t.html
NH's gonna recount. That'd be crazy if anything changed.

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#406 January 12, 2008, 06:02:23 am

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its gonna be too late for the next primaries though!!!

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#407 January 12, 2008, 06:42:16 am

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This stuff about Ron Paul has gotten me increasingly skeptical about his running as a candidate. I mean, I don't know anything about the guy's character or personality, but his policies, to me, just looked plain ridiculous. Certainly, some of them are good, even great, ideas, but c'mon: The Gold Standard? Withdrawal from trade agreements and the United Nations? Abolishment of several government-funded programs that ensure the safety and protection of our citizens? I mean, I'm not sure if it's all completely true and correct, and I'm sure I'd read up on his policies before our state's primary (except I didn't register to vote 30 days before, which is the cutoff and also IT DOESN'T COUNT), but I couldn't really see him as a president. He's a little too... radial for my tastes. But I suppose that's what his supporters are arguing for, eh? A revolution? It's just too weird.

What's really weird,tough, is imagining all the candidates with the prefix "President". I mean, except Clinton, because there's already been one. But the rest of the sound odd, to say the least.

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#408 January 12, 2008, 07:06:25 am

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Quote from: WunderBread on January 12, 2008, 06:42:16 am

This stuff about Ron Paul has gotten me increasingly skeptical about his running as a candidate. I mean, I don't know anything about the guy's character or personality, but his policies, to me, just looked plain ridiculous. Certainly, some of them are good, even great, ideas, but c'mon: The Gold Standard? Withdrawal from trade agreements and the United Nations? Abolishment of several government-funded programs that ensure the safety and protection of our citizens? I mean, I'm not sure if it's all completely true and correct, and I'm sure I'd read up on his policies before our state's primary (except I didn't register to vote 30 days before, which is the cutoff and also IT DOESN'T COUNT), but I couldn't really see him as a president. He's a little too... radial for my tastes. But I suppose that's what his supporters are arguing for, eh? A revolution? It's just too weird.

What's really weird,tough, is imagining all the candidates with the prefix "President". I mean, except Clinton, because there's already been one. But the rest of the sound odd, to say the least.

paul only has internet support

which prolly means sites like 4chan fake vote for him or shit

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#409 January 12, 2008, 08:22:03 am

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Quote from: Velfarre on January 11, 2008, 10:01:40 pm

Man, I've almost stopped reading Digg because of how much they love Ron Paul. All the posts about his newsletters coming out are ignored or replied to with "WELL HE SAYS HE DIDN'T WRITE THOSE", and there's one that's all about HOW GOOD OF A JOB RON PAUL DID SAYING HE DIDN'T DO IT, and the post goes on and on about "The Ron Paul I love..." That's the essence of it--they don't give a shit what Ron Paul is really like because they're in love with this magical image of him, they don't realize the Ron Paul they love isn't who they want to put in office, it's the real Ron Paul that would be there.

Now, where did I hear about this before?

(One difference is that they're actually willing to vote for him.)

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#410 January 12, 2008, 01:12:19 pm

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IMO McCain is the worst candidate there, while Obama is the least of the many evils. I personally can't stand Hillary, but I think that the republicans are even worse. What saddens me is we can't even get a decent candidate elected here. What happened to the old republican party - the one that voted to keep out of everything?

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#411 January 12, 2008, 06:34:50 pm

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...McCain is the only decent Republican running. what in God's name would make you label him worst, considering he's the only one with immigration reform and AGAINST TORTURE (Romney actually said DOUBLE GITMO!!!)

I mean he's shit but he's way better than the rest of his party.

also

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080112/FRONTPAGE/801120412

I hate these people.

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#412 January 12, 2008, 09:23:56 pm

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The Ron Paul article on Wikipedia is also terrible. There's no real discussion of the criticism that he's received, apart from a section about the newsletter articles. The article is locked, too, so you can't edit it even if you have an old and "trusted" account.

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Wil

#413 January 13, 2008, 12:52:53 am

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well if he says he didn't write them, then he didn't write them!!

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Vellfire

#414 January 13, 2008, 04:17:33 am

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Basically there are almost no sites where you can learn anything about Ron Paul besides how fantastic him and his cock are.

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#415 January 13, 2008, 09:04:31 am

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Quote from: Wil on January 12, 2008, 05:44:05 am

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/new-hampshire-t.html
NH's gonna recount. That'd be crazy if anything changed.

This is taken from the link you posted:

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One voter expressed concern because her district reported 0 votes for Ron Paul when her family all voted for him.

Clearly some miscount of the votes occurred, because it was later discovered that Dr. Paul had several dozen votes for the district.

How fucking retarded is this?

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#416 January 13, 2008, 09:10:17 am

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How fucking retarded is this?

Retarded that Paul only got a dozen votes or retarded because they're recounting something that ended days ago?

I'm kind of interested in this revelation. Miscounting a couple dozen votes is pretty serious.

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#417 January 13, 2008, 09:26:44 am

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this is more symbolic for paul supporters because they think the clerk was "fixing" the vote then made it look normal when she started getting harassment. a lot of them also seem to think this is just the tip of the iceberg and are using the logic that if this occurs even once who knows how many dozens of votes were miscounted and the whole election is a sham. this also plays into their fantasy of the GOV'T trying to shut down paul, rather than the reality that people don't vote for him because he is a crazy old man.

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Sarhan

#418 January 13, 2008, 09:27:35 am

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Quote from: angry black man on January 13, 2008, 09:10:17 am

Retarded that Paul only got a dozen votes or retarded because they're recounting something that ended days ago?

I'm kind of interested in this revelation. Miscounting a couple dozen votes is pretty serious.

Retarded because it shows how fucked up the voting system is when votes go uncounted. That's a few dozen uncounted votes in just one county. There are around 237 counties in New Hampshire. Hopefully this recount will be done before Super Tuesday...it should be if their estimates are correct. Imagine how big of a blow it would be to Hillary if they found that Obama won.

As for GZ's comment, don't know if that was directed at me or not, but I'm an Obama supporter.

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#419 January 13, 2008, 10:46:47 am

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I completely agree with Ron Paul's Ideals. It's about time that America focused more in it's own interest rather than trying to police other nations. Cutting systems from the federal government is a great Idea as well. I mean the government is putting billions of dollars of our tax money to all these organizations that are old and aren't even necessary anymore. Besides Ron Paul did vote against the Patriot Act, and the Government Regulation of the Internet, both of which affects us internet users!. Sure he maybe going for a more socialistic approach, but whats so bad about that? Look at Canada and it's medical system, why do you think so many senior citizens in America cross the border to Canada to get medications. If we had a better Medicare/medicate system they wouldn't have to go to Canada to get cheaper medications in the first place.

But I can't vote, I'm not a citizen. And for the first time ever in the 10 years I've lived in America I finally feel the true importance of voting, which some people take for granted at times.

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#420 January 13, 2008, 04:36:51 pm

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K0LE I don't know if your post was supposed to be funny or something, but if not, you don't know anything about ron paul at all! christ man, like konix said Ron Paul's ideas are the OPPOSITE of what you're saying. he is a libertarian, he hates everything to do with socialism! I mean holy shit dude, Ron Paul actually said "we need to get away from corporate medicine and stay away from socialized medicine" and "move in the direction of delivering the service through free-market forces." Did you bother to look into him at all, or are you just going with the sway of your favorite social networking site?

btw Ron Paul would probably hate you

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