Topic: U.S Presidential Primary Thread (Read 20603 times)

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seriously though I dont know any atheist that hates gays or doesnt think they should have the same rights as other people.
I do. (If we're going to play the "everybody I know agrees" game, let's be fair.)
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I do. (If we're going to play the "everybody I know agrees" game, let's be fair.)
I'm sorry to hear that man. Because while discriminating against people based on religion is tragically misguided it is understandable imo, but having no reason for said hatred is just pathetic.

also considering the second half of that thought sarcasms no?
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WC, people don't hate gays just because the bible says so
They may also hate them because it offends their masculinity, or find it completely awkward, or let's put it this way: It offends nature (not god, just MOTHER NATURE (very misterio))

I'm pro gay marriage, because I don't give a damn about them.
As for having kids, now this is an issue I don't like. I mean, I don't like the idea of a kid having 2 fathers. They need a maternal figure. It is the way nature works. Now the idea of a kid with 2 mothers seems more apropiate, although still not as much as the standard heterosexual family.
However, even though I don't like this, I am not going to stand against it. WHO ARE YOU TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. We have equal human rights, and there are absolutely no reason to make distinctions based on the color of your skin or your sexual orientation.
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I don't mind gay people. 

I've been around them, and they're entertaining. 

Those benefits are for a man and woman who, likely, will have a child or two someday.

I don't care if I'm surrounded on both sides with anal exploring fudge packing faggots as neighbors in a house who consider themselves a "couple." 

this is like a hundley fakepost.
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WC, people don't hate gays just because the bible says so
They may also hate them because it offends their masculinity, or find it completely awkward, or let's put it this way: It offends nature (not god, just MOTHER NATURE (very misterio))
if it offends their masculinity then they have some serious issues with their own sexuality and some lingering immaturity/possible oedipus/electra complex I would say

but lets not digress any further from the topic at hand. I cant wait for the hilary ship to finally sink on tuesday

anyone else agree?
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fudge packer is the most appetising insult ever.



also this topic will get back on track after new hampshire in a couple of days i expect.
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yeah tuesday is new hampshire. any predictions?

as horrible as it is i have a hunch that Paul will do better than expected. New Hampshire is a very libertarian state!
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yeah, he might take...fourth...

all the polls except rasmussen have him at fifth, though not by a great margin.
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yeah tuesday is new hampshire. any predictions?


Predictions:

Republicans
1. McCain  30%
2. Romney  28%
3. Huckabee 15%
4. Guiliani 11%
5. Paul 10%
6. Thompson 6%

Democrats
1. Obama  35%
2. Clinton 30%
3. Edwards 28%
4. Richardson 7%
5. Kucinich 0%
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the demographics of NH are very different from those of Iowa

I really doubt they will vote exactly the same way (though the humor is appreciated)
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if it offends their masculinity then they have some serious issues with their own sexuality and some lingering immaturity/possible oedipus/electra complex I would say
sure, so?
the point is that homophobia is digressive
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Man, did anyone else watch the Simpson's episode about the primaries?  It was terrible and it only made my hatred of the show grow to insane heights.  One quote in particular:

Lisa: It's in the constitution.
Bart: I thought the Patriot Act destroyed the constitution.

FAIL HUMOR IS FAIL.  FOX should go on strike until the writer's union provides capable writers.
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Man, did anyone else watch the Simpson's episode about the primaries?  It was terrible and it only made my hatred of the show grow to insane heights.  One quote in particular:

Lisa: It's in the constitution.
Bart: I thought the Patriot Act destroyed the constitution.

FAIL HUMOR IS FAIL.  FOX should go on strike until the writer's union provides capable writers.

Unfortunately, I watched it just because I heard Jon Stewart would be a guest star. It was a shitty episode and Stewart was only in it for a minute (and even that wasn't entertaining).

Sorry for the derail, but aren't the Family Guy writers (including McFarlane) all going on strike? From what I've heard, Fox isn't going to budge and they're going to continue writing episodes with new writers and with new voice actors.

On topic - Go Obama. I'm glad to see he's taken the lead over Hillary after the NH debates. She seems way too irritable to me, while Edwards and Obama just take it easy and knock her arguments down. Pretty entertaining to watch.
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I dunno, I can't help but think this all depends on three factors

How much does america hate/like the concept of a black president?

How much does america hate/like the concept of a woman telling them what to do?

How much we hate/like the idea of republicans taking office again?

I really wish for change, I'm really tired of this Corprate centered America...it's so awful.
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Political Realism.
Although I might be mixing things up a bit as well. Realism is an international theory, about the relation between predominant states concerning the dichotomy between war and peace.
It is a theory that has a pesimistic view on human beings in which they will always end up causing wars. That we never learn. Realists, don't give a shit about negros, homosexuals, abortion, or any other moral issue. They are all about the possesion of power, military power. They believe that the direction of the world depends solely on the predominant states, terrorism action from lesser states is not even a big thing for realists (at least for the purist, there are those variations that consider it important).
But well I was bringing this international theory to the national level, but the point in my previous post is to show you that the "human progress" paradigm is not embraced universally at all, and that the main actors of our world as we can see nowadays with these wars and the conflict with iran, do not share this paradigm.

all existing states act through realpolitik. i dont think it has anything to do with a "pessmistic attitude", it has more to do with the present order of things etc. realpolitik can be justified ideologically with "progressive" paradigms by the ruling class etc.

people who are not part of the elite/ruling class that believe idyeologicall "political realism" are really sad  creatures, because in their hatred for humanity, they ironically hate themselves too.
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ron paul supporters chase sean hannity down the street

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all existing states act through realpolitik. i dont think it has anything to do with a "pessmistic attitude", it has more to do with the present order of things etc. realpolitik can be justified ideologically with "progressive" paradigms by the ruling class etc.

people who are not part of the elite/ruling class that believe idyeologicall "political realism" are really sad  creatures, because in their hatred for humanity, they ironically hate themselves too.

Believe me, nobody here believes there is one of the world's greatest hegemonies happening in the United States right now more than me, but I would like to believe this can be solved through us getting out the vote.

If this doesn't change in the next 10 years MAYBE we will need more action


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ron paul supporters chase sean hannity down the street


my friend who loves ron paul sent me this saying "I was going to go to that but i had to work lololol"

I do not like him very much anymore

(although fuck sean hannity)
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I feel bad for Sean Hannity thanks a lot Ron Paul.

WHY WONT THEY TREAT US SERIOUSLY *forms lynch mob to chase celebrity with sticks*
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I feel bad for Sean Hannity thanks a lot Ron Paul.

WHY WONT THEY TREAT US SERIOUSLY *forms lynch mob to chase celebrity with sticks*

I wouldn't be surprised if Ron Paul had this video on his You Tube channel with a comment of something like.. "The people have spoken, the revolution has begun!"
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