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maladroithim

#21 January 23, 2008, 03:02:49 am

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Quote from: jman00 on January 22, 2008, 11:05:31 pm

but due to the Anti-2D policy the game was cancelled

This is something that japfags have made up and as a policy it does not actually exist. If it did, Nippon Ichi and Vanillaware would have had a much harder time publishing their products! Furthermore, you could always take a look at the myriad of no-name NIS games on PSP (especially the awful Idea Factory games).

While you might think Tales Of has a dedicated fanbase, a dedicated fanbase of a few tens of thousands people that browse RPGamer are not really worth trying to market a product towards. You could always try and make the assumption that a product is being marketed towards you because your taste represents the minority, rather than assuming that there is some conspiracy out to keep your favorite videogames from you.

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#22 January 23, 2008, 04:52:14 am

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sweet more bad, homogeneous rpgs

just what the psp needs

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#23 January 23, 2008, 06:21:54 am

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Man... Tales of Eternia is all the Tales anyone needs. Fuck the rest.

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#24 January 23, 2008, 06:48:47 am

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So much tales hate. Well, I don't have a PSP so I obviously won't be getting these. I do have these, and the Destiny Remake for PS2 though, and they're insanely fun. I still think Tales of Rebirth is the best 'Tales of' Game ever made. Screw Abyss and Symphonia. Too bad it hasn't come here...yet.

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#25 January 23, 2008, 07:20:33 am

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The hate is well founded. Every Tales game is exactly the same. The only thing that ever changes are some static naming conventions... and that's it. It's the reason how they are able to pump out the games they do. Their entire creative process consists of is changing the elemental's names and collection themes (harness the 8 elementals,find the 8 swordians, defeat the 8 craymels,visit the 8 temples, and so on) and little else. From there... they the rehash light-fantasy-anime settings by merely changing the names of STARTING TOWN, FORREST TOWN, DESSERT TOWN, GHETTO TOWN, UPPER CLASS TOWN, SNOW TOWN, and DOCK TOWN. After that... throw some characters together with assorted colours, hair cuts, and cookie cutter personalities and voila... you have all you need to create a new Tales game. The fight system... the items... the enemies... SKILLSETS... the story... everything about the series is a rehash of a rehash. It's like all of the games are running off of the same GENERIC JFANTASY mad libs sheet. They invent some fantastic crisis that throws the characters across the map to save the world... and that's it. It's disgusting.

Tales of Eternia did it best though.... but they fucked it up by making that embarrassing anime series and the soul crushing MMORPG sequel.

Last Edit: January 23, 2008, 08:30:49 am by Chainer

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Skie Fortress

#26 January 23, 2008, 07:58:48 am

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It's also disgustingly amusing time and time again. Your points are totally true. That doesn't stop the series from being fun to me though.

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#27 January 23, 2008, 08:59:16 am

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Tales of Destiny and the Abyss are the best IMO. I kinda stepped away from it after that awful Tales of Symphonia....and from what ive heard Tempest is shit, too. Idk for sure.

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#28 January 23, 2008, 01:43:31 pm

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Quote from: katsuya_filgaia on January 23, 2008, 08:59:16 am

Tales of Destiny and the Abyss are the best IMO. I kinda stepped away from it after that awful Tales of Symphonia....and from what ive heard Tempest is shit, too. Idk for sure.

Tempest was the worst game in the series, hands down.

@Mala - Some points you say are true, like Nippon Ichi releasing the 2D games, but I also think that its the Sony Industry that doesn't like 2D games... and while RPGamer isn't too big with the Tales games, the main offical Tales forum site or whatever has dozens of fans and they are waiting for games like them to arrive. But everyone has their own opinion about the Tales games, like much my opinion about FFXII being one of the worst FF games in history with FFXI follwing it, you have yours with the Tales series. But I still think that they chances of ToR and ToD2 being released stateside is very slim, if it doesn't come out and you really want to play it just import it and there you go, there is plenty of translations on Gamefaqs.

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#29 January 23, 2008, 02:07:32 pm

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Quote from: katsuya_filgaia on January 23, 2008, 08:59:16 am

Tales of Destiny and the Abyss are the best IMO. I kinda stepped away from it after that awful Tales of Symphonia....and from what ive heard Tempest is shit, too. Idk for sure.

I agree, though I would have to place Tales Of Symphonia above Desitny for me. So, as of now, my two favorite "Tales Of" games are Abyss and Symphonia. They're extremely fun and very enjoyable to play through. It's a good series, IMO, and I wish they would release Tales Of Destiny Remake over here as it looks damn good.

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#30 January 23, 2008, 02:37:10 pm

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This is something that japfags have made up and as a policy it does not actually exist. If it did, Nippon Ichi and Vanillaware would have had a much harder time publishing their products! Furthermore, you could always take a look at the myriad of no-name NIS games on PSP (especially the awful Idea Factory games).

I believe the anti-2d policy is in effect for Namco, not necessarily Sony. After Tales of Destiny and Tales of Eternia's psone failure in America Namco pretty much said "We are never releasing a 2D Tales game on a next/current gen system again!"

And yeah the Tales of games are pretty much generic rehashes of each other. I think the newest release is called Tales of Sleep/Innocence or something horribly stupid like that.

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#31 January 23, 2008, 07:47:00 pm

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Quote from: Chainer on January 23, 2008, 07:20:33 am

The hate is well founded. Every Tales game is exactly the same. The only thing that ever changes are some static naming conventions... and that's it. It's the reason how they are able to pump out the games they do. Their entire creative process consists of is changing the elemental's names and collection themes (harness the 8 elementals,find the 8 swordians, defeat the 8 craymels,visit the 8 temples, and so on) and little else. From there... they the rehash light-fantasy-anime settings by merely changing the names of STARTING TOWN, FORREST TOWN, DESSERT TOWN, GHETTO TOWN, UPPER CLASS TOWN, SNOW TOWN, and DOCK TOWN. After that... throw some characters together with assorted colours, hair cuts, and cookie cutter personalities and voila... you have all you need to create a new Tales game. The fight system... the items... the enemies... SKILLSETS... the story... everything about the series is a rehash of a rehash. It's like all of the games are running off of the same GENERIC JFANTASY mad libs sheet. They invent some fantastic crisis that throws the characters across the map to save the world... and that's it. It's disgusting.

HAHAHAHA! Wow, lol chainer, awesome man.

However, Tales of the Abyss is NOTHING like that. You should play it sometime.

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#32 January 23, 2008, 08:13:36 pm

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Quote from: Aten on January 23, 2008, 07:47:00 pm

However, Tales of the Abyss is NOTHING like that. You should play it sometime.

I bet you $100 that if Chainer plays the game he will decide that you are lying. No kidding.

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#33 January 24, 2008, 12:01:54 am

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Quote from: maladroithim on January 23, 2008, 08:13:36 pm

I bet you $100 that if Chainer plays the game he will decide that you are lying. No kidding.

Well, once he see's Jade Curtis in action, he'll come back for doubles.

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STARTING TOWN, FORREST TOWN, DESSERT TOWN, GHETTO TOWN, UPPER CLASS TOWN, SNOW TOWN, and DOCK TOWN.

imo, every game ever made in history has that setup, so I dont see what the complaining is about

Last Edit: January 24, 2008, 12:04:03 am by Aten

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#34 January 24, 2008, 12:10:17 am

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Quote from: Aten on January 24, 2008, 12:01:54 am

Well, once he see's Jade Curtis in action, he'll come back for doubles.

also,

imo, every game ever made in history has that setup, so I dont see what the complaining is about

Hmm that sounds like ALOT OF FINAL FANTASIES.

I agree, it does sound like every other game. Its how its set up which makes it fun. Locations have nothing to do with it sometimes.

As far as Tales of The Abyss, it would be much better if it did not have that obnoxious voice cast, (ESPECIALLY Johnny Yong Bosch..) but overall its a damn good game. In fact, wasnt it close to getting all perfects from Famitsu? (9/9/9/9)

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#35 January 24, 2008, 12:34:51 am

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Quote from: Aten on January 23, 2008, 07:47:00 pm

HAHAHAHA! Wow, lol chainer, awesome man.

However, Tales of the Abyss is NOTHING like that. You should play it sometime.

o.k.

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#36 January 24, 2008, 12:50:21 am

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Quote from: maladroithim on January 23, 2008, 08:13:36 pm

I bet you $100 that if Chainer plays the game he will decide that you are lying. No kidding.

What is that supposed to mean? Are you saying that it isn't the same as the rest... and I'd be too stubborn to admit it?

Last Edit: January 24, 2008, 04:17:09 am by Chainer

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#37 January 24, 2008, 03:29:44 am

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Quote from: Aten on January 24, 2008, 12:01:54 am

Well, once he see's Jade Curtis in action, he'll come back for doubles.

also,

imo, every game ever made in history has that setup, so I dont see what the complaining is about

Ha ha, yeah, Jade is probably the best character in there for me. Great character, and I like his personality. The voice actor is good as well.

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#38 January 24, 2008, 03:53:05 am

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I think I would only play Tales of the Abyss for the awesome battle theme song.
It looks okay I guess....I might try it out one day.

Tales of Eternia and Tales of Phantasia are the only ones I've played. Oh wait, and Radiant Mythology, but I stopped playing it half way through.

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#39 January 24, 2008, 04:09:06 am

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Quote from: Chainer on January 23, 2008, 07:20:33 am

The hate is well founded. Every Tales game is exactly the same. The only thing that ever changes are some static naming conventions... and that's it. It's the reason how they are able to pump out the games they do. Their entire creative process consists of is changing the elemental's names and collection themes (harness the 8 elementals,find the 8 swordians, defeat the 8 craymels,visit the 8 temples, and so on) and little else. From there... they the rehash light-fantasy-anime settings by merely changing the names of STARTING TOWN, FORREST TOWN, DESSERT TOWN, GHETTO TOWN, UPPER CLASS TOWN, SNOW TOWN, and DOCK TOWN. After that... throw some characters together with assorted colours, hair cuts, and cookie cutter personalities and voila... you have all you need to create a new Tales game. The fight system... the items... the enemies... SKILLSETS... the story... everything about the series is a rehash of a rehash. It's like all of the games are running off of the same GENERIC JFANTASY mad libs sheet. They invent some fantastic crisis that throws the characters across the map to save the world... and that's it. It's disgusting.

Heh, if that doesn't say it all...but I still find the series entertaining despite being through some of that time and again.

Bring on Innocence and Knight of Ratatosk I say.

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#40 January 24, 2008, 04:17:51 am

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Quote from: Neophyte on January 24, 2008, 03:53:05 am

I think I would only play Tales of the Abyss for the awesome battle theme song.
It looks okay I guess....I might try it out one day.

Tales of Eternia and Tales of Phantasia are the only ones I've played. Oh wait, and Radiant Mythology, but I stopped playing it half way through.

RM was garbage, and I can understand why you stopped. As for TotA, the battle music is actually why I decided to try it. Since Legendia was god-awful, I didnt think any of the PS2 counterparts were any good...

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