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why on earth should that scare me?
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I don't even use Yahoo anymore ever since I got my gmail account. This is pretty uninteresting to me. I also don't see what Microsoft is even trying to gain by buying Yahoo. Yahoo pretty much sucks just as bad so why bother?
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why on earth should that scare me?

Because you should be scared, that's the mainstream opinion. MICROSOFT MONOPOLY!
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How can you have a monopoly by buying off an internet company that's slowly dying off?
I mean, Yahoo has already slowly been selling themselves off? They just sold their rights to Launch (or whatever their calling their music streaming site these days) over to Rhapsody. There's not much left for Microsoft to use except for an outdated, second-rate search engine (then again, it's a step up to MSN's third-rate search engine, which no one uses or even knows about).


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It's kind of disturbing how many people think this is all no big deal! Then again I guess that many people just really don't have a clue about these things but still want to get that extra post count +1.
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Damn.... EA, M$, SCEA, and Viacom are buying up everything.


Who do you will be on the receiving end of a hostile takeover first?


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It's kind of disturbing how many people think this is all no big deal! Then again I guess that many people just really don't have a clue about these things but still want to get that extra post count +1.

It can't be a big deal. This sort of thing happens way too often for it to be a big deal. (Unless you are saying it is a big deal every time it happens. But if that were the case, there'd be more running and screaming in the streets.)
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This sort of thing happens way too often for it to be a big deal.
No, these gigantic takeovers of the most major companies in a major field do not happen all that often. This is Microsoft and Yahoo we're talking about here, not ZilchByte Internet Solutions and MegaSlice Inc.; it's certainly going to have a big effect, as these are big players.

Like, you don't need to go running around screaming when this happens (like I said already) but you're basically clueless about this if you just sit down and say "what's the big deal?"
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Actually I know more than my fair share about this shit and even though I can see what the big deal is it doesn't scare me in the slightest, no siree.
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Okay whatever guys. You obviously don't care about this too much, that's fine. If you cared about this even a slight bit, at least you'd give some kind of reasoning for why you keep saying "eh, no big deal".

It seems as though most of you are just going with your gut feeling that tells you there's no need to care about big (really big) companies buying each other out. Usually, there's no reason to care, that's true, but this time there's quite a bit at stake which we should care about. Namely, the Web. You simply cannot deny the influence that this will have on the Web, since two of the largest players might team up to take on Google.

Have you forgotten that one of them is a convicted monopolist that doesn't care about Web standards and doesn't care that the Internet should be a platform-neutral service? What about their record of messing up Web services they buy? Will Yahoo be compelled to switch to the Windows platform (they mostly use FreeBSD right now I think), potentially forcing them to buy new hardware while they experience technical problems in the meantime? You know that mindshare is very important to Microsoft, so certainly they won't let Yahoo's success story have anything to do with platforms other than Windows. Same for their open-source contributions and contributors; what will happen to Rasmus Lerdorf, the lead developer of PHP, who's currently an engineer at Yahoo?

In any case, I don't see any good coming out of this deal for us, the end users.
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If anyone doesn't think Microsoft acquiring that sort of power in the Web marketplace is a big deal, I'd advise them to read the Halloween Documents, especially the first two.  They're internal Microsoft memos that were leaked by some programmer with a conscience, and they describe Microsoft's worldview:
  • They view anything that has the ability to compete with them successfully as a threat to their way of business.  (In other words, they know they're a monopoly and wouldn't have it any other way.)
  • They believe that the best way to "compete" in business is not through the classical capitalist notion of competition, (producing either a better or a more affordable product, which promotes innovation and benefits everyone) but by driving everyone else out of business.
  • They view the open, published standards of the Internet, which make possible everything you see here, as a threat to their way of doing business.  They believe it would be in their interest to "de-commoditize" the Internet protocols, or in other words, to replace the open standards with closed, proprietary Microsoft ones so that you need Microsoft programs to use the Internet.
This isn't me ranting and making stuff up off the top of my head.  This is from real Microsoft internal documents.  This is their plan for the future of the Internet, and now they're after the #1 biggest site on the Web.

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No, it is a big deal, it's just not scary.

Even in the really unterrifying worlds of computers and corporations, this is not scary.


edit: I must be underestimating how frightening this is if people are pulling out their Orwell quotes, jesus christ.
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No, it is a big deal, it's just not scary.
Well, sure. I never really thought it was scary either, that's a bit of an exaggeration. But it's something worth noting and worrying over.

edit: I must be underestimating how frightening this is if people are pulling out their Orwell quotes, jesus christ.
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  • They believe that the best way to "compete" in business is not through the classical capitalist notion of competition, (producing either a better or a more affordable product, which promotes innovation and benefits everyone) but by driving everyone else out of business.
I know this might sound like a joke or trolling.... but I thought the "classical capitalist notion" was to drive everyone out of business and to strong arm their way into having the public depend on them? You know.... the days of the Robber Barons?
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Wouldn't it be better it microsoft bought yahoo. then we would have to good search engines. and if google ever went off for updating we woudn't die?!

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That has nothing to do with the Web.

Wouldn't it be better it microsoft bought yahoo. then we would have wo good search enigines. and if google ever wne off for updating we woudn't die?!
Not really. Neither have particularly good search technology, so I doubt that combining them would make the product better than Google. Besides, Google doesn't go down so easily. It has so many high-performance servers running constantly that it would take a worldwide disaster for them to simultaneously go down.
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I know this might sound like a joke or trolling.... but I thought the "classical capitalist notion" was to drive everyone out of business and to strong arm their way into having the public depend on them? You know.... the days of the Robber Barons?
Meh.  That's mostly a socialist strawman, although it really doesn't help that a lot of highly visible corporations do in fact behave that way.  But that's not what all businesses are like, and it's not how any of them are supposed to be.
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Well, Yahoo rejected the offer.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/microsoft_yahoo

If Microsoft ups the price, they might accept.
I guess I do care about this somewhat. But I'm not all into this hardcore business shit, etc too much. Microsoft is fucking crazy, though.