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Warlin

#1 February 03, 2008, 11:51:11 pm

I did ok on this one but his feet are kinda wierd!
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Ok, so I just installed the CD Drive into my Barebone PC and the rig runs great.... So I pop in SuSe Linux 9.2 because its the only software I have right now.... "Cool PC, but you're about to install a 32bit OS on a 64bit system". Now, this thing is brand new. Everything in it is. So I'd rather not screw it up from the start.

So heres the issue:
I have a Celeron D proccessor. It fits the socket LGA 775. Yay!
But for some reason I'm confused as to if its a 32bit processor or a 64bit processor. Wikipedia just confuses me more. Someone tell me if I can run Windows XP on this without having to get the fancy 64bit edition.

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RedScythes

#2 February 03, 2008, 11:57:07 pm

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Even if you have a 64bit rig, you can run 32bit OS/software on it.

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Lord Kamina

#3 February 03, 2008, 11:58:56 pm

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You can run 32bit just fine on a 64bit processor.
In fact, a friend of mine had a 64bit Athlon (Assembled by my bro) and he ended up using 32bit Windows because 64bit compatibility was pretty lacking.

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Ghost_Aspergers

#4 February 04, 2008, 12:02:27 am

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Quote from: Lord Kamina on February 03, 2008, 11:58:56 pm

You can run 32bit just fine on a 64bit processor.
In fact, a friend of mine had a 64bit Athlon (Assembled by my bro) and he ended up using 32bit Windows because 64bit compatibility was pretty lacking.

This is me. Though... to be fair... it's impossible to install XP on this thing due to some [known] bug. It says a file is missing during installation... but the file is a file the installer is supposed to generate on it's own. It's a convoluted issue... but that's for another topic. I have been using Win2k on 64bit hardware... and everything is running just fine. It could be better (if it ran in 64!) but it's fine.

Do not get the 64bit windows though. It lost support from Microsoft about 3 years ago... not that it supported much to begin with.

Last Edit: February 04, 2008, 12:04:30 am by Chainer

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Warlin

#5 February 04, 2008, 12:20:35 am

I did ok on this one but his feet are kinda wierd!
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Well as long as my computer doesn't flip.
Because I hear that some of the earlier 64 bit proccessors can't run 32bit. =\

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dueledge

#6 February 04, 2008, 09:54:07 am

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Yeah my family computer had a an Athlon 64 but we used XP 32 bit because the 64 version had no drivers, making it pretty much useless. Its annoying but hey thats windows for you (Unlike Mac which pretty much just scrapped everything and rebuilt it with better 64-bit support). They are going to have to go properly 64-bit at some point though because 32-bit cannot support enough RAM.

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mar77a

#7 February 04, 2008, 11:49:54 am

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I'm running Windows 2000 Pro on what seems to be a 64 bit processor. Of course I got no warnings, but hey, now I know (and you know that it'll probably work).

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goat

#8 February 04, 2008, 12:50:36 pm

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Athlon 64 processor is new enough to support 32 and 64 bit OSes. Very few early 64bit-only processors were made, so very unlikely you would have one (and you'd know it if you did).

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Stadsport

#9 February 04, 2008, 04:53:54 pm

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The earlier 64 bit processors that didn't support 32 bit were Intel Itaniums, which came out a bit before AMD did their x86-64 extensions for their processors. Then everyone saw 64 bit didn't have to be retarded and the Itanium, its funky workstation/server applications aside, became almost laughable. But its still a decent platform that is still in use, I hear they're even working on a 128 bit version.

tl;dr: 64 bit is backwards compatible, so it'll work.

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dom

#10 February 05, 2008, 10:21:16 pm

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Quote from: Chainer on February 04, 2008, 12:02:27 am

Do not get the 64bit windows though. It lost support from Microsoft about 3 years ago... not that it supported much to begin with.

Quote from: 'Microsoft

Windows XP Professional x64 Edition Service Pack 2 12/03/2007 Review Note Review Note Support ends 24 months after the next service pack releases or at the end of the product's support lifecycle' date=' whichever comes first. For more information, please see the service pack policy at http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/#ServicePackSupport .[/quote']

xp pro x64 has 5 year mainstream support and the latest service pack was released last year. where the hell did you pull 3 years from?

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ATARI

#11 February 05, 2008, 10:44:36 pm

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There is a 64bit windows XP and a 64bit Windows XP Professional edition (the one that you quoted) and they are quite different: as far as I know, the 64bit regular was discontinued because it had a lot of compatibility problems. I know that the professional 64bit XP edition is still avaliable and supported. I'm not sure if Chainer was referring to the other version or not though (and I'm also unsure of the current support status of the first mentioned edition)

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Warlin

#12 February 06, 2008, 04:28:55 am

I did ok on this one but his feet are kinda wierd!
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Just so I don't have to make another topic:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144122
What do you think? Should I get it =o?
I'm not likely to use 80 gigs on my own. I'm not heavily involved in PC gaming and the like.
Yeah I'm still not done building my computer. Its almost finished though.

Last Edit: February 06, 2008, 04:30:54 am by Warlin

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dom

#13 February 06, 2008, 05:17:10 pm

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Quote from: ATARI on February 05, 2008, 10:44:36 pm

There is a 64bit windows XP and a 64bit Windows XP Professional edition (the one that you quoted) and they are quite different: as far as I know, the 64bit regular was discontinued because it had a lot of compatibility problems. I know that the professional 64bit XP edition is still avaliable and supported. I'm not sure if Chainer was referring to the other version or not though (and I'm also unsure of the current support status of the first mentioned edition)

i didn't know anyone still bought non-professional editions of XP

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