Topic: 'Watchmen' movie... and videogame... (Read 29861 times)

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Yeah but it kinda fucks the whole watches thing.
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what watches?

there's the watchmaker father of Dr. Manhattan but other than that the main motiff is clocks, not watches.
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dunno if this has already been linked to:
http://www.wired.com/entertainment/hollywood/magazine/17-03/ff_moore_qa?currentPage=all

it's a good recent interview with mr moore, it has some really good bits
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God that guy... He wants to sit and talk about the deeper meanings and everything in watchmen and how people are seeing things in it today that weren't originally intended, ugh. You'd think these types of things would have been considered while the guy stuffed the thing full of loaded imagery.

I haven't read the "League" yet, does anyone know if it's good? It seems like a Smash Brothers-esque comic or something. The thought of Captain Nemo and Dr. Jeckyl working together seems pretty ridiculous.
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league is good but it's very wordy and this is from me so you know it's actually pretty wordy, especially black dossier. he also does dig a bit into mythos, more than I knew, once again especially in black dossier. idk maybe avoid it until you are really acquainted with his other work to get into why he wrote it.

also what are you talking about? he's annoyed that people aren't going to pick up subtext, not that they're picking up different things.

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But it seems to be that things that were meant satirically or critically in Watchmen now seem to be simply accepted as kind of what they appear to be on the surface. So yeah, I'm pretty jaundiced about the entire "caped crusader" concept at the moment.
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dunno if this has already been linked to:
http://www.wired.com/entertainment/hollywood/magazine/17-03/ff_moore_qa?currentPage=all

it's a good recent interview with mr moore, it has some really good bits

Holy shit the next League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen will apparantly be based on the Threepenny Opera! To be honest I was kinda underwhelmed by the first two books but this sounds really cool.
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I didn't give a shit for league of extraordinary gentlemen when I read it
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man i just got back from finishing the book because i'd heard about how good it was. and then i come here and all of a sudden there's a movie coming out what???

i really don't like how the movie looks based on the trailer(s). the color tone, style, music, special effects, and the overabundant action/slow motion is leaving a rather funky aftertaste in my mouth. the whole thing just feels wrong.

but who knows it might be entertaining and the trailers could just be shitty. the lack of black freighter and giant psychic alien is kind of throwing me off, but movies do need to be significantly different than their source materials to be good so i dunno.
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what is this i don't even

so, rorschach's comment about ozy being gay has been removed

and i liked lxg and didn't find it too wordy at all!  i thought the ending (2nd volume) was pretty abrupt and like all of moore's work RAPE RAPE RAPE RAPE but the fact that all of the characters pretty much HATED each other really added to the characterization.  mr. hyde was a ticking time bomb, quaterman a old fart, nemo is bitter at everyone who's british, the invisible guy was a massive dick, campion bond was a weasel, and the chick with the scarf was more bitter than nemo. 

haven't gotten around to reading black dossier but i heard gollywog is in it!
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what is this i don't even

so, rorschach's comment about ozy being gay has been removed


Maybe the live-action character will portray come off pretty gay as it is.  Maybe he's a pretty shitty actor, though, who the fuck is this guy?

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He said: “The negative feedback is relayed by my friends. I think the fanboys aren’t particularly happy – there are a load of people they’d have rather had in before me.

“It’s already being slated before they’ve seeing anything.

“But if fanboys still hate the film after going and seeing it, they can all line up and s*** my d***.

“I don’t give a f***.”

Matthew added: “I’m having a child and that’s more important to me – so I don’t give a f***.

“Grow a d***.”


Sounds like a grade-A idiot, with self-esteem issues.
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but who knows it might be entertaining and the trailers could just be shitty. the lack of black freighter and giant psychic alien is kind of throwing me off, but movies do need to be significantly different than their source materials to be good so i dunno.

Not entirely correct. Although it has been omitted from the Theatrical Cut, it's being released as a DVD tie-in, along with a faux television interview with Hollis Mason discussing his autobiography, Under The Hood.

http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/8922060/Watchmen-Tales-Of-The-Black-Freighter/Product.html

so, rorschach's comment about ozy being gay has been removed

Zack Snyder has stated that this line will be included in the Extended Cut. I'm unsure as to why they axed such a brief, but insightful comment from the Theatrical Cut, though.

Maybe the live-action character will portray come off pretty gay as it is.  Maybe he's a pretty shitty actor, though, who the fuck is this guy?

Sounds like a grade-A idiot, with self-esteem issues.

On the contrary, I actually rather admire him after reading those comments. Alan Moore said it himself: the responsibility of the artist (I hate the use of this title outside of the visual arts, but as I'm paraphrasing I'll let it slide) is not to give the people what they want, but what they need.

Now, to paraphrase Goode: FUCK the fans! So long as Watchmen makes enough profit to justify the investment, Warner Brothers, Legendary Pictures and Paramount are sure to be pleased. I'm in love with the comic, but if the film is good in its own right then I'm going to be more than pleased. Sod the fucking squid, sod Goode's "mis-casting" and sod the fucking fans! They're taking this way too seriously.

Oh, and do bear in mind that these are probably the same fanboys that slag-off Batman & Robin, but are intellectually incapable of backing their bullshit up. I could write countless essays on that film's overlooked credibility, but to the average fanboy it boils down to a couple of latex butt-shots, an excess of neon and a few throw-away (but admittedly cringeworthy) ice-related puns.

And don't even get me started on how fucking difficult screen acting is. Judging by the clips I've seen so far, Matthew Goode's done a fantastic job of portraying Adrian. From the line delivery itself (I'm quite fond of the snippet I heard of the speech he gives to his Vietnamese aides), to the duality of his private and public persona. He's taken the two-dimensional source material and really crafted a character of his own, whilst ensuring that it remains true to the spirit of its comic book counterpart. Unless you've done screen acting yourself (and I have), you'd probably have no idea just how tough it is.

Once the fanboys have finished swallowing Goode's load, they can start on mine next! I'm going to judge the film on its own merits, even though I'm very familiar with the work upon which it is based. These half-baked critics that are slamming the flick before they've seen it don't deserve to have access to such a masterful tome as the Watchmen comic, let alone what looks to be a faithful and equally masterful cinematic interpretation of it. 

Fucking "Generation X" taking everything for sodding granted...

By the way:

dunno if this has already been linked to:
http://www.wired.com/entertainment/hollywood/magazine/17-03/ff_moore_qa?currentPage=all

it's a good recent interview with mr moore, it has some really good bits

I read most of this the other day. As much as I disagree with him on a number of things, I do love the fella! I got a chuckle out of his observations regarding the post-Watchmen trend of "pretentious and unecessarily sadistic" comic books. That said, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen wasn't too pleasant; but at least its horrors were consistent, as opposed to contrived.
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no he's an idiot because instead of levelheadedly saying "I'm a bit disappointed by fan reaction but you know, I'm going to do the best possible job I can, and hopefully we'll both be satisfied with the end product" he said FUCK YOU GROW A DICK.
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wait isnt the sun like british tabloids though? i doubt that story is even real


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Oh, and do bear in mind that these are probably the same fanboys that slag-off Batman & Robin, but are intellectually incapable of backing their bullshit up. I could write countless essays on that film's overlooked credibility, but to the average fanboy it boils down to a couple of latex butt-shots, an excess of neon and a few throw-away (but admittedly cringeworthy) ice-related puns.
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the sun is notorious for making stuff up.
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Also Batman and Robin had a great effect. It made it uncool to make comicbook movies for a few years, meaning less people were forced to wear generic/cheesy rubber outfits that look like bondage gear.

Also also Leage is fantastic I love it. I guess IDK you kind of need to have some knowledge of literature/the period to get what's going on/referenced half the time(sorry mongoloid but if you thought the cold war stuff wasn't obvious in Watchmen then this is likely to go right over your head!) otherwise it'll probobly end up like some silly mess.


Also also also that interview just reminded me of that time George Lucas shat on the star wars fans a few years ago.
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no he's an idiot because instead of levelheadedly saying "I'm a bit disappointed by fan reaction but you know, I'm going to do the best possible job I can, and hopefully we'll both be satisfied with the end product" he said FUCK YOU GROW A DICK.

To be fair, the guy's been taking a lot of flack; he was bound to break eventually. Note that he's hitting-out at those who haven't seen the film yet. They're not criticising the performance, but the presentation. The quality of Goode's contribution to the film should be judged by the product of the marriage between the former and the latter.

But I reserve and maintain the opinion that fanboys are thick as pigshit. They claim to possess a deep and thorough understanding of the material that they so revere, but would probably be stumped when asked to articulate said comprehension.

Also Batman and Robin had a great effect. It made it uncool to make comicbook movies for a few years, meaning less people were forced to wear generic/cheesy rubber outfits that look like bondage gear.

I would argue that Batman & Robin is a far more accomplished film than The Dark Knight. If you find that hard to swallow, I suggest reading the previous sentence again and thinking about it for a minute or so.

Also also also that interview just reminded me of that time George Lucas shat on the star wars fans a few years ago.

As a cinephile who happens to prefer the Star Wars prequels to the originals, I invite you to elaborate upon this. How exactly did George Lucas "shit" on fans of Star Wars? What promises were made to the fans, and where exactly did the films fall short of the bar set by these promises?

Watchmen the Motion Comic: for those of you who are too cool to buy comic books or don't want to be seen browsing too close to the manga section that every book store lumps "graphic novels" with.

I'm intending to buy this as soon as it's released. Having seen a couple of clips on Youtube, I've come to realise just how much potential this medium holds for the future of comics. That said, I agree with Alan Moore in that it denies you the option of pausing on a single image to fully appreciate its majesty. Even the film cannot possibly replicate the impact of...



This gives me goosebumps every time I see it. The juxtaposition of Moore's punchy prose with Gibbons' bold and raw illustration...
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I would argue that Batman & Robin is a far more accomplished film than The Dark Knight. If you find that hard to swallow, I suggest reading the previous sentence again and thinking about it for a minute or so.

lol if you mean Kaworu's sentence what it wasn't actually a troll and if you mean FANBOYS uh everyone hated Batman and Robin not just fanboys.
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As a cinephile who happens to prefer the Star Wars prequels to the originals

jesus fucking christ.
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