hahahaha

Hayter needs to write a MGS script, I think between himself and Snyder, they could pull it off.  I honestly wouldn't mind seeing MGS filmed in this way.

considering twin snakes featured plenty of slow motion and MISSILE BACKFLIPS i kind of agree

i might be going to see this with someone tomorrow. i read the comic a long while ago and i enjoyed it a lot when i did. i've never thought this movie looked good and i defintely don't now.

brgfh.

http://www.youtube.com/v/QggOfblvt4U&hl=en&fs=1&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1&start=254&autoplay=1

you mean like this

they could have tom cruise or some faggot as raiden, hugh jackman or hayter himself a solid snake.

I don't know, maybe Michael Bay would be better for this one.

MGS2 was supposed to be intentionally stupid.  MGS1 Twin Snakes was like... directed by the Wachowski bros or something.  When the Hind D shoots missiles at Snake he uses one of them as a springing platform and does a back flip or something.


It's blurry, but 1:00 in Snake does a backflip in slo-mo, lands on the missile, and springs off it without somehow detonating it.

MGS2 was supposed to be intentionally stupid.

would you quit with this stupid shit

The only way a Doom Patrol movie would be watchable was if terry gilliam did it. Everybody else would just do a dumb superhero movie.

Also Ryan MGS2 seriously was meant to be stupid, that was kinda a central point to it.

Also Ryan MGS2 seriously was meant to be stupid, that was kinda a central point to it.

I don't know if I'd say stupid but certainly self-aware. Like some of Godard's movies. It's not the same level of, let's say, depth, but the idea is the same.

when you have a generic action vamp, a fat guy on roller skates planting bombs, cyborg ninjas, magic boxes which render you invisible in the middle of corridoors, a battle against numerous nuke-carrying mechs and shit.
It's more than self awareness. It's to the level where it's stupid deliberately to say "hey look games are stupid, stop taking them so seriously".
I think MGS are comedy games set out to affectionately parody the absurdity of games and movies.

would you quit with this stupid shit

quit with what?

MGS2 was specifically designed to be as campy, dumb, and ridiculous as possible.  Kojima was trolling everyone by making fun of hero worship and preconceptions of the generic action hero.

MGS2 was supposed to be intentionally stupid.  MGS1 Twin Snakes was like... directed by the Wachowski bros or something.

Ryuhei Kitamura.

there is absolutely no evidence that kojimi intended mgs2 to be intentionally stupid or a troll. sorry, but there's not! i don't know why you guys keep repeating this same argument when there's absolutely no evidence supporting your claim!

when you have a generic action vamp, a fat guy on roller skates planting bombs, cyborg ninjas, magic boxes which render you invisible in the middle of corridoors, a battle against numerous nuke-carrying mechs and shit.
It's more than self awareness. It's to the level where it's stupid deliberately to say "hey look games are stupid, stop taking them so seriously".
I think MGS are comedy games set out to affectionately parody the absurdity of games and movies.

every metal gear solid game has ridiculous enemies. they're videogames.

I've never seen so much penis in a movie before.

It was pretty good, but the changed ending was kind of weird.  Other than that, there wasn't a whole lot changed, just omitted. 

Some fucking idiot brought his five year-old daughter to the movie, and the girl cried several times during it.  There needs to be some kind of law for movies like this that keeps kids out of the theater because they can't fucking handle that shit. 

there is absolutely no evidence that kojimi intended mgs2 to be intentionally stupid or a troll.

nah it's pretty clearly a postmodern videogame. why would you think otherwise? every character is designed to be a send up of another character while pushing just what "character" is. you can argue how successful the experiment was but it's definitely intentional.

there's a clear difference between what they were saying (big joke..) and what it actually was! (retelling of MGS, postmodern, etc etc)

Ok, I'm surprised. I was mad at the slow motion bullshit and whatnot from before, but coming back I am surprised. I liked it more than I expected to. Granted, it has it's problems, but overall it's well put together and isn't entirely dumbed down into a generic gritty supe flick. It still had some of it's "message" and some "intelligence" intact despite the changes (which I don't mind since I haven't read it in a while). Pacing I felt was off, I was really into it especially at the Dr. Manhattan interview sequence, but after the first half it kinda lost it's touch. Probably due to the material that was cut out. I liked the idea of the new ending, but I didn't necessarily dig the execution. Some dumb final showdown fight scene and whatever...

Some guy expecting a generic supe action flick left the theater towards the end and yelled "this movie sucks!". Call me a  dumb as fuck, but I do think that shows how much more this film conveys than most shit these days.

Still dislike Zack Snyder. The cast was great, Rorshach was the bomb... Also was into all the historical figures they put in, it was fun picking them out. I thought it was clever what they did with Andy Warhol.

I liked it.