Help PS3, Backwards Compatibility, RPGs, and Other Issues (Read 2082 times)

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Well does Chrono Cross work right on the 80GB one because it is one of the games I play the most.
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Okay so backwards compatibility on PS3 is really confusing and here is how it goes:

- All units play PS1 games through pure software emulation.  Most PS1 games should be fine (I have heard nothing either way about Chrono Cross though)
- The original run of units (like the 60 and 20 gig) have full hardware backwards compatibility and has trouble only with peripherals, so unsupported games are limited to things like Guitar Hero.  Since they have PS2 hardware inside of them, they also have PS1 hardware inside of them.  Emulation is almost completely perfect.
- The 80 gig units have *partial* software emulation for PS2 games.  They still have the graphics chip from the PS2 but emulate the processor.  This is sort of a big misconception.  The result is that the emulation is actually more or less perfect for almost all games that matter (I think Madden 2001 had a few bugs or something).
- From now on, all of the new PS3s (such as the 40 gig and upcoming 100+ gig) will have the PS2 graphics chip removed and there will be no PS2 backwards compatibility.
- There is a good chance that Sony will add pure software emulation for PS2 through a future firmware upgrade.  Their company position is that their legacy as a licensor is important and they seem to see the value in supporting classic games as it is perceived as a valuable feature.

Anyway, about RPGs:

PS3's only real jRPGs that I know of are Folklore, Enchanted Arms, and Eternal Sonata; I have all three and they are all pretty terrible.  Enchanted Arms is actually, as Dada would put it, profoundly insulting.  That said, every gamer at this forum will probably tell you to buy an XBox360 regardless of which genre you prefer.  Right now there are a lot more Japanese RPGs for 360 (there aren't really many on 360 either) than there are for PS3, and the PS3 has something like 3 exclusive major RPGs announced for the US anytime within the next several years.  If you like Japanese RPGs, I'd probably tell you to stick with handhelds or something. 

But if you are set on buying a PS3, it's not like it matters when you compare it to 360 because either way you'll have lots of awesome games to play.  I have both a 360 and PS3 and it seems like most major games come out on both.
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Well does Chrono Cross work right on the 80GB one because it is one of the games I play the most.

From what I've read online (Official PS3 forums among other places, do a google search for "Chrono Cross PS3" and you'll find several sites) Chrono Coss has the same issue for both the 60 and 80GB PS3's.

I haven't yet come across any evidence that it's an isolated problem.  It seems literally everyone who plays CC on their PS3 has this problem.

I'm hoping for an update or something that will fix the problem but it doesn't look particulaly likely.

I already got rid of my PS2 so I guess I'm S.O.L.
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Why are all of FF's latest protagonists girly-men?

 Because it is no longer 1950 and there is a greater range of aesthetic principles afforded to the male gender than the following:
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Wait, if there is a greater range....then why do all of the male FF heroes look identical?  (sissy girly boys with a half-smirk, spikey hair and a slight build, and couldn't weigh more than a buck-20).

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FFXIII's protagonist is actually a woman...
But yeah, Vaan looked way too girly.
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FFXIII's protagonist is actually a woman...
But yeah, Vaan looked way too girly.
technically, so was FFXII's. sure you PLAYED as Vaan but the protagonist of the story was Ashe.
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TOPIC HIJACK

so i bought a ps3 today and i want to know some things:

1) Can I play ps1 games with the 40gb version? (prolly yes based on maladroithim's earlier post)
2) Are PS3 games region free or not? Even though I live in Europe and I have a PAL console, I buy a lot of games from America and sometimes Asia, so I need to know if my console can play them or not. If not, I'll probably have to mod my ps3 when I can afford it.

And then, game recommendations. I got Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted: Drake's Fortune with the console but I'm probably going to buy 1-2 other games as well. Folklore, DMC4 and Assassin's Creed are the games I want the most so if anyone has played those, opinions would be appreciated. I have also been thinking about buying Heavenly Sword and Jeff recommended Dynasty Warriors 6.

so....he;lp.

also mgs4 soon :naughty:
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1) Yes, you can. But not PS2 games.
2) I'm pretty sure they are.

As for recommendations, I'd say Warhawk and Call of Duty 4 (you probably already have the PC version of CoD though). Heavenly Sword is okay, but it's short, and easy, and once I beat it I never touched it again, so there's hardly any replay value. Assassin's Creed, I dunno. At first I disliked it, then I kind of got into it, then I disliked it again. It's incredibly repetitive. I haven't played Folklore or DMC4. Uncharted is currently my favorite PS3 game so it's cool that you already got that.

There are some worthwhile PSN games, like Everyday Shooter, Pixel Junk Monsters, and GripShift.
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Do not get Assassin's Creed for PS3. It is buggy as hell.
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Do not get Assassin's Creed for PS3. It is buggy as hell.
I really had no problem with it. I thought the patches fixed all the bugs. I finished the game a few days ago and had a pretty good experience.
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Pixel Junk Monsters on co-op is by far the best purchase I've made from the PSN. Can't really make any reccomendations, as all I keep an eye on for the PS3 is shooters. COD4, Warhawk and Resistance were all solid purchases for me, but shooters might not be your thing.
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I like shooters but I don't play FPSes on consoles because I don't like playing them with a controller so yeah, no need to recommend any FPSes.
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Playstation system = 2 year wait for RPGs.
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Do you guys still see xbox360 as a better buy in the long term? My main reason for getting ps3 would be that it is a relatively new system and could outlast 360 and beat it in terms of good games in the future. MGS4, Tekken, GTAIV and FF would be the names pulling me towards ps3.
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Pixel Junk Monsters on co-op is by far the best purchase I've made from the PSN.
Yeah, agreed. That game is incredibly addicting. Everyday Shooter is also really good, but Pixel Junk Monsters is 3 dollars less and has way more content.

I like shooters but I don't play FPSes on consoles because I don't like playing them with a controller so yeah, no need to recommend any FPSes.
Well, Warhawk isn't an FPS (it's third person). It might be worth looking into it at least. It's online only though, so I dunno if that's a problem or not.

Also, on that note, tell me your PSN ID (if you got one yet) so we can friend each other. :)

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You mean 2 years from when it was released, right? In that case, yeah, it's true.

But definitely (or, well, at least hopefully) not 2 years from now. More like half a year. Which is still pretty sad I guess, but there are plenty of games to hold me over 'till then, so whatever.
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Well, Warhawk isn't an FPS (it's third person). It might be worth looking into it at least. It's online only though, so I dunno if that's a problem or not.

Also, on that note, tell me your PSN ID (if you got one yet) so we can friend each other.
I'll check out Warhawk. And I don't have PSN ID yet as I don't have the console yet. It should arrive in a few days. I don't know if I'm going to even use PS3 for playing online though, maybe someone wants to tell me about the online functions it got. Is it easy to set up and is it free?
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Is it easy to set up and is it free?

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An awesome thing about the PSN: It has no real way of linking your account to a single PS3. So basically if you wanted you could have a buddy log in using your ps3, and you could download all his purchases off the store free of charge.