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EDIT: oke I put the short film ,finished on youtube.      --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SXD8tTqU6E

tell me what sucked... and what was good

And I have finally send it with my other material to the academy,  I tried to post it but I was a day late, this was because the day before i had to make photos for the registration but the photographer couldnt get his lighting working and I had to rush of to work.
I eventually went to Amsterdam around 7 am delivered it personaly and headed back to my city for work around 10 am,  ... I arrived at 12.. . .



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Oke so I'm making a short movie, it will support my application at the Dutch film and television academy. ( I have texts, storyboards, sketches and paintings to support Aswell. )
And the plan was to make a short movie that would highly depend on images and music instead of cheezy text, and well this was very hard but things are starting to shape, and I'm hoping it will work out great since the academy only accepts like 15%.


moving on:

Title: Autumn Doubts

The story centers around a young guy who is ( as suggested) into illegal practices and has to meet a contact and retrieve a certain object, this being a classic metal suitcase.





so far I have 2 teasers ready, one more slow and heavenly, the other more urban and straight to the point it also resembles the completed work more.
and I'm hoping to have the final product soon, like 2-4 days, and for now I'd like some comments on the two teasers, and hopefully get you guys ready to comment on the finished product.


( I'd love the C&C , however by the time I'm finished I won't have any time to edit any suggestions you guys give, since the deadline is 18th feb )


here is teaser/trailer 1, heavenly and slow, the finished product will differ alot from this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbR4XtKp4kc


teaser/trailer 2, a bit more heavy and resembles the films style more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPHbvPcHVHY
Last Edit: March 10, 2008, 09:41:40 pm by TheMonster
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Ok, so far it looks like you're making good progress and coming up with something that has the potential to be a great short.

Now the first trailer, is not BAD, but personally I don't really like it. The music choice is great, the slow pace of everything. The atmosphere is really set. Everything is good for me up until the guy looks at the camera. The shot lingers slightly too long and it just feels...cheesy. The part with the shadows is pretty creative, but it doesn't really work. Mostly because of the two conflicting textures on the ground. The gun pulling out, is pretty damn cool and sets some mood. If that shot is in real time, then it shouldn't because something like that should be done at normal speed and slowed down. The part where the black guy quickly extends the gun is pretty terrible, I don't like that at all. The way the music fades out isn't so smooth.

Honestly I really like the second teaser. The title coming up first, the build up, the guy walking into frame and the interceding light is perfect. Text is fast and furious. Theres a few shots in there I think could be adjusted, but I really feel it's perfect for what it is.

Personally I think you should experiment with different filters.Your footage looks like it's just been adjusted with contrast.

It's better than anything I could put together. Really depressing since I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Good job though . Looking forward to it.

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Last Edit: February 11, 2008, 01:27:25 am by McLovin
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just the man I was hoping to post,

oke I edited some things on the trailer, I agreed with alot of what you said ( like the shadows, however I kept it in, since it was so calming )

and yea I used alot of contrast balance, and color mixers, but I most footage is doomed, since I used 3 different camera's from bad, worse to worst , and filmed at every different weather type possible, so balancing shots is almost impossible, but alot came out better.

gald you liked the second one more, since its exactly like the finished product, the classical music thing was more like a experiment

anyways , I redid it with some different shots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHATKHv-ET8

also new cover art
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Yeah, it's definitely better. I don't have much more to comment on, but I forgot to mention that I think combining the two teasers would come out pretty cool also.
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thx man, liking it more with the edits I did, combining would be a nice idea, im just gonna focus on getting the main film done first :P
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sry for the double ( and maybe the necro) post,  but I edited the top with the finished film and the title
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Uh... I dunno man, I'm honestly not sure what to think. It's not bad, but it tries WAY too hard to be REALLY EXCESSIVELY HIGHLY STYLIZED. Little crazy, not my kinda thing so I can't really comment on how good or bad it is. I liked it though, I love the way you just flash random shit, ESPECIALLY in the credits.

It would have been nice to have some sound, if you were having audio issues you could have dubbed over the dialogue. Music is great, I personally didn't like it but yeah. Also the crane shots were great. Nice moving shots too, I personally have a SHITLOAD of trouble with those because every time I try to do some kind of closeup of a guy walking, camera always ends up being extremely shaky.

Nice job man.
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wel to be honest I was very limited, I couldn't use spoken dialoge because a dutch can't speak english for shit, and it will automatically come out cheezy,   very cheezy..
and having a very large story in a film that could only be 15 mins at max wouldn't work either, and the one thing I wanted to avoid was getting that bullshit hollywood vibe, thats why most is left suggestive.

so yea I traded audio for 1 short subbed conversation and a music track, and story for style and hard camera work.


the zoom, .. that was hard, but if you walk extremely slow, it seems your moving but not coming into the camera fast, so you wont loose focus point



btw hows it coming with your project
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Alright I saw this and decided to comment some. I don't think what I'll say will be constructive or anything but I'll comment some, because homemade movies need more comments 8^)

I'd say it's a bit long. The music is great and all but there's really nothing happening in the movie anywhere in the beginning. It's just walking. I think at least half of that walking could have been removed. The only thing that could perhaps have been added is a wide-shot from afar of them walking.

I would also have preferred there to be no dialogue at all or the dialogue in voice. Just having it subbed felt very wrong. Why couldn't they just have spoken Dutch? Everyone loves Dutch.

In the end I didn't quite "get it". What was the point? Why? What happened? I didn't really get a grasp of any narrative anywhere, though I had a feeling that there was supposed to be one. There was the long "bonding" walk toward a common goal but then what was the goal? The end showdown was a bit weird too since it seemed to take so long for the hairy person to get up when the blonde just seemed to do nothing (after clearly being on his way out. Turning around watching the hairy guy crawl around a bit to get up doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.)

Hmm, this came out a bit too negative, but it wasn't bad. I would have shortened it a bit and possibly cut the dialogue completely. The rest is so obviously dialogue-less (like the post-credits scene) that having that bit of dialogue in seemed a bit unnatural. Other than that it was a nice piece.
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Shinan gave some good advice. I definitley think you need to re-edit it to be shorter and more punchy. Also, nex time you film, use a tripod or something. A lot of the shots were quite jumpy and I could tell you weren't going for handy cam style.