you all lie, this never was a problem. It was implemented in the game, i just beat it and realized that they intentionally put the codec moments in EVERY COPY OF THE GAME. This is part of the games plotline, confusing yes but nevertheless it is not a bug. Like one odvious proof: Last codec moment before the fight with solidus explains it all, basically what angry black man said in post #5 is true, partly. Rose is real, but there is an AI posing as rose to modivate raiden. Also the fact that the diologue does not at all seem cut up, it is well stringed together and seems like it is part of the script. Its just one of the many qualities that make metal gear's storyline the most fucked up anyone has ever seen!

I'm not sure if people were trying to be dicks or see if darkjak would actually buy it but yeah, it's obviously not a bug and he knows it so enough of that.

uh, hideo kojima gave konami instructions to make two slightly different copies of the game: one with the codec glitches and one without. The one without actually has a different ending. what's less known is that you can actually tell what copy you're getting from the barcode number of your game. If it's odd you have the glitched copy, if it's even, you've got the alternate ending.

admittedly, the alternate ones are harder to find. they don't really have any marks distinguishing them from the normal copies, but since the ending of the game was completely different, konami had to register a separate ISBN. If you really want to see the alternate ending, buy or rent one with an even ISBN number.

If it was me continuing to post shit after an admin said to stop, I'd get warned so fast.

hey can someone please turn this into a saga i can claim to have been a part of a little ways down the road

Big Shell isn't real.  It's a simulation designed to collect data in order to create the perfect super soldier (the genome soldier project failed because of the rapid aging process which is why the Snake bros are so fucking old looking).  Raiden is the test subject.  Big Shell was designed after Shadow Moses.  The main group of badguys represents FOXHOUND.  The entire thing was a setup from the beginning.

Dude, that turned out to be fake, remember? The real purpose of Big Shell was a hiding place for Arsenal Gear, IIRC.

Damn awesome. How comes everything in Metal Gear always turns out to be a setup or some kind of shit like that?

You know that if you read just ONE more line of Marcus's post, he actually said exactly that.

I thought that with set-up, he meant the actual things happening on Big Shell, not the Solid Snake Training thing.

EDIT: I really can't find anything in his post that tells us that S3, as Ocelot explains it, was a set-up by itself.

i just flicked on my copy of MGS2 and decided to check in with colonel




looks pretty normal, right? yeah well that's what i thought until i decide i should probably do a level 4 geist scan. y'know, better safe than sorry.

resluts of scan:

Hidden content (Click to reveal)

...i...i think it's too late for me.

talk about being a wiseass... honestly its odvious you ms painted that so called ''scan'' someone show him the REAL skull general codec pic, please -.-

You were talking about the purpose of Big Shell in what I quoted.

In the second paragraph, Marcus says "Big Shell itself is actually Metal Gear Arsenal, the super computer through which the rogue AI (the patriots) run the world."

Meh, thought it was worth noticing too that S3 as a training program for creating a new Solid Snake was a hoax on itself. I'll just say that you're right, don't want to get in any fights.


EDIT: Shit, I've been MGeiSt-ed, btw.