a) ff7 is overrated and it was pretty obvious people were going to drool over this, regardless of its quality, purely on the basis of what it's a prequel to

I don't know, Dirge of Cerberus or whatever got universally poor reviews and pretty much every critic worth their salt blasted Advent Children for being DBZ with Final Fantasy characters.  I enjoy this game but I can chalk that up to not expecting it be something it's not specifically a replacement for FF7 or a console game in general.  I only play the game in short 30 minute bursts and for something that I bust out on trains and bus rides I don't find it boring or too contrived. 

I can understand this opinion changes radically if you actually sit down and play it like a normal console game but I play handheld games on the go so my opinion of them is usually based on how well they can be picked up and played.

I am going to ask again since aten gayed up the last page.

Anyone know where to get phoenix downs (NOT the 99 from the big boss)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385700/

7.6 on Advent Children.

I only play the game in short 30 minute bursts and for something that I bust out on trains and bus rides I don't find it boring or too contrived. 

Man this is the second time tonight that I have to quote you instead of actually making my own reply

Anyway yeah I think this game is pretty decent and I think it's too bad that you feel so offended that it exists bazookatooth!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385700/

7.6 on Advent Children.

Man that was such a terrible movie by conventional standards but if you wanted to see swordfights and motorcycles it was pretty adequate.  It's sort of like XXX or Earth Defense Force or Styx.

EDIT: I mean XXX the movie and not XXX as in the porn industry.

Man that was such a terrible movie by conventional standards but if you wanted to see swordfights and motorcycles it was pretty adequate.  It's sort of like XXX or Earth Defense Force or Styx.

none of those were tied to anything that had any amount of intellectual pride attached, as opposed to Advent Children, a sequel to the most beloved RPG of all time.

none of those were tied to anything that had any amount of intellectual pride attached, as opposed to Advent Children, a sequel to the most beloved RPG of all time.

I don't know man Dennis DeYoung is serious business.

I'm not much of a FF7 fan, however, this game surprised me. I was expecting good graphics, and had already heard the excellent soundtrack. While the world and characters fit exceptionally well with FF7, the battlesystem feels like a Mana game almost. I knew it would be "Kingdom Hearts-ish" but it turned out completely different. It's as people say, jamming on the X button. Sure I used blizzard, cure and fire... but only because I wanted variety. Otherwise, I could have dodgerolled and attacked my way through. A RPG setting would have been very welcome, imo.
I say I was surprised by Crisis Core, this is mostly because of Dirge of Cerberus. After that putrid -thing- my hopes for CCFF7 were setting themselves up for let down. As I mentioned the setting and music and characters flowed exceptionally well with this crazy ol' FF7ology.

In the end... 'whatever'. I'd rather a typical Final Fantasy. Side-view same ol' battles. Sorry, but it was and still is highly appealing. Ah well. It passed the time. Crisis Core is alright in my books.

I just beat this. I am going to regret staying up to do so in about two hours when I get up for work buuuut I have a question. Aten don't respond to me.

Was Cissnei supposed to be Elena? Since she said that's not my name, and Elena was the only girl in the Turks I can remember, I am wondering that's what they were eluding to.

Also, also, chapter 10 was pretty cool! The music really helped a lot when you finally get back to town and he was getting dragged away.


I think the best part about this is it shows how big a faggot Cloud really is. In Final Fantasy 7 he STEALS zacks identity basically, and pretty much completely forgets about him except in TWO SCENES. Zack was like the BEST BFF EVER and Cloud shits all over his memory AND steals his fucking girlfriend. What a douche.

is chapter 10 the one with the hub dungeon and there are paths to a bunch of other dungeons? that was probably my favorite part.

I didn't really like the game too much. I guess it was okay though. fusing materia and doing missions was sort of fun I suppose, if only because I love getting super-powerful really early on (POWERGAMING HEH). the game was really easy even when I got too lazy to do that and my power starting averaging out. I don't think my hp ever went below max in the final battle because of that crazy shit where you break your hp/mp/ap limits. basically I wish the game would have just explained more of the mechanics, or better yet, not had so much complicated and arbitrary shit to explain. I don't really give a shit about that story because I don't remember anything beyond "sephiroth is evil" and "cloud thinks he's zack" from ff7.

it's definitely better than a lot of the games on PSP but it's really not that great.

Was Cissnei supposed to be Elena?

That all depends what happened in that Before Crisis cellphone game. A lot of backstory and sidestory stuff happened in that, and it took place between FF7 and Crisis Core. They should release FF7BC on... say, PSP, so those of us who don't own that certain japanese cellphone can finish the FF7 series.

Was Cissnei supposed to be Elena? Since she said that's not my name, and Elena was the only girl in the Turks I can remember, I am wondering that's what they were eluding to.

No, Cissnei is just Cissnei, a Turk from Before Crisis who previously didn't have a name.

Was Cissnei supposed to be Elena? Since she said that's not my name, and Elena was the only girl in the Turks I can remember, I am wondering that's what they were eluding to.

Nah, she's not Elena, just another Turk. He 'real name' is just alluding to whatever you named her in Before Crisis. There's plenty of Turks (maybe around 10, at least?), but most of them are in hiding by the time Final Fantasy 7 (the main game) rolls around.

I think the best part about this is it shows how big a faggot Cloud really is. In Final Fantasy 7 he STEALS zacks identity basically, and pretty much completely forgets about him except in TWO SCENES. Zack was like the BEST BFF EVER and Cloud shits all over his memory AND steals his fucking girlfriend. What a douche.

It wasn't intentional. Due to the Jenova Cells in Cloud's mind, he unintentionally replaces his own past with Zacks as a subconscious way to fill in the time gaps, so he could function. He didn't do it on purpose, it was Jenova's influence on Cloud's mind that made Cloud mix up his own past with Zack (and he really believed it himself)


As for my opinion of the game, it was pretty fun! I wasn't a fan of all of the story sequences (the game could have done without Genesis/Angeal and whatnot), but several clarifications of the story, the Wutai War, the Nibelhiem incident, Zack on the run with Cloud, how they met, and Zack/Aerith's relationship, were done really well, and I'm glad Square gave us a second look. I liked the voice acting, and except Angeal sounding a little stale at times, I think it's really solid. The gameplay is fun too. Normal IS very easy, but Hard Mode is another animal entirely. The game is really worth the game in Hard Mode, and that's what really drives me to play. Overall, I like the game, and it's very solid.

is chapter 10 the one with the hub dungeon and there are paths to a bunch of other dungeons? that was probably my favorite part.

no it's the one where angeal and cloud break out and you have to protect him. it really all showed how good a guy zack was and i think the music also made him seem more HEROLY while he was striking down the soldiers dragging him away. plus the sniper shit was awesome


What the hell is before crisis? Is that the game that was originally named Crisis Core for the cell phone that looked like balls? You play as cloud being a turk or something?

What the hell is before crisis? Is that the game that was originally named Crisis Core for the cell phone that looked like balls? You play as cloud being a turk or something?

Before Crisis is a cell phone game that originally came out in Japan. It takes place a number of years before FF7, and you play as one of the Turks. The game introduces several other Turks besides the ones we know of in FF7, and the story mainly revolves around Shinra trying to stop AVALANCHE, a terrorist group, (while they have the same goals, its not the same AVALANCE that Barret's in, it's a larger, worldwide, more violent one)

Cloud isn't a Turk, but you do see him in his regular grunt status in a mission or two. I could go on, but it's easier to just wiki it.

cant change my mind, I still like it, and apart from gw (and a few people whose opinions I have come to find out doesn't matter that much at all), everyone else loved it, so yeah 

*plugs ears* LALALALALALALLALA I CANT HEAR YOU LALALALALALALALALALALALA

Alternatively I was going to post something about FFX sucking and FFXII being really cool but I couldn't figure a way to phrase it.