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Bondo

#41 April 03, 2008, 03:52:48 am

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I have a Samsung SyncMaster 932bw 19" widescreen LCD monitor. It runs natively at 1440x900 at 75hz. LCDs have come a long way. This baby displays even the fastest games with no blurring or ghosting. I bought mine for 232usd.

When shopping for a monitor, look at the contrast ratio, and the response time. My Samsung has a very fast response time at 2ms, and a very good contrast ratio at 3000:1. A standard Dell or Gateway monitor, for example, usually has a 6ms response time and a 600:1 contrast ratio, so it's slower and has lower color range (But it's still better than the LCDs of yesteryear.)

Every LCD you will find these days will be widescreen. It's hard to avoid it, so you might as well get one.

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goat

#42 April 03, 2008, 08:02:30 am

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2ms or even 1ms still means it's present. I can't tell when a LCD is running at 60hz, however I can tell when a CRT is. Combine this with the fact that I love using vsync whenever possible, and the higher refresh will give me a much smaller hit to performance when it's on.

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Bobberticus

#43 April 04, 2008, 01:10:43 am

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Quote from: goat on April 03, 2008, 08:02:30 am

I can't tell when a LCD is running at 60hz, however I can tell when a CRT is.

That is probably because CRTs flicker like shit at 60hz

Also, when it comes to response times, I'm sure 2ms must be pretty fucking good, I mean, I have 8ms and unless I'm playing an NES game or something, it's not going to be noticed

btw response time and refresh rate are pretty different issues

fuck it all, dd is dead

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goat

#44 April 04, 2008, 03:00:01 am

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Quote from: Bobberticus on April 04, 2008, 01:10:43 am

That is probably because CRTs flicker like shit at 60hz
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btw response time and refresh rate are pretty different issues

It's because they're different technologies. They don't display an image the same way.

Last Edit: April 04, 2008, 03:11:57 am by goat

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Mama Luigi

#45 April 04, 2008, 04:19:25 am

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Quote from: goat on April 03, 2008, 08:02:30 am

Combine this with the fact that I love using vsync whenever possible, and the higher refresh will give me a much smaller hit to performance when it's on.

What do you mean by this? Your monitor (regardless of CRT/LCD) won't display FPS above your refresh rate anyways, so performance hits mean nothing with vsync enabled, in your case. If you are getting 120 fps without vsync, and 60 fps with vsync, they should look identical because the monitor doesn't display at infinite FPS.

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goat

#46 April 04, 2008, 05:46:35 am

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Quote from: Mr Epic Hero on April 04, 2008, 04:19:25 am

What do you mean by this? Your monitor (regardless of CRT/LCD) won't display FPS above your refresh rate anyways, so performance hits mean nothing with vsync enabled, in your case. If you are getting 120 fps without vsync, and 60 fps with vsync, they should look identical because the monitor doesn't display at infinite FPS.

Actually, the picture with vsync will have less vertical tearing, and since vsync is enabled it will have lower framerate than if an identical machine had vsync enabled, but a maximum fps limit of 60. The performance hit to vsync doesn't just come from the absolute limit to framerate, but because it also introduces a bottleneck since it has to wait for the RAMDAC to fully draw a frame before going on to the next one. Even though you wont be able to tell the difference between 120fps and 60fps, setting refresh to 120hz and turning on vsync would allow you less of a framerate hit by reducing the bottleneck.

Last Edit: April 04, 2008, 05:54:09 am by goat

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#47 April 05, 2008, 07:37:37 am

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Quote from: Bondo on April 03, 2008, 03:52:48 am

I have a Samsung SyncMaster 932bw 19" widescreen LCD monitor. It runs natively at 1440x900 at 75hz. LCDs have come a long way. This baby displays even the fastest games with no blurring or ghosting. I bought mine for 232usd.

When shopping for a monitor, look at the contrast ratio, and the response time. My Samsung has a very fast response time at 2ms, and a very good contrast ratio at 3000:1. A standard Dell or Gateway monitor, for example, usually has a 6ms response time and a 600:1 contrast ratio, so it's slower and has lower color range (But it's still better than the LCDs of yesteryear.)

Every LCD you will find these days will be widescreen. It's hard to avoid it, so you might as well get one.

Good advice.

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