Fixed.


I'm impressed he called her bluff, but still...that's pretty disgusting.  Hold it in.  She didn't give him any real choice (for normal people).  But she'll get fired because the victim is always right.  I hear that teachers aren't even allowed to strap or paddle kids anymore. [/1950s]
"Pissing in the teacher's lunchbox?  That's a paddlin'."

She is legally supposed to let him go to the restroom, so of course the "victim" in this case was right.

We were never allowed to go to the bathroom during tests, so applying that rule is circumstantial at best.

The teacher is in charge.  If she decides "No, you can't do <such and such> right now", then that's it.  In this particular instance, the teacher handled her authority really really poorly, but what "she's supposed to do" and what circumstance dictates sometimes conflict and she has to make a judgement call.  It's within her authority to do so, imho.

We were never allowed to go to the bathroom during tests, so applying that rule is circumstantial at best.

The teacher is in charge.  If she decides "No, you can't do <such and such> right now", then that's it.  In this particular instance, the teacher handled her authority really really poorly, but what "she's supposed to do" and what circumstance dictates sometimes conflict and she has to make a judgement call.  It's within her authority to do so, imho.

The district says teachers have to allow students to use the restroom.

Well, you're wrong.


The teacher isn't in charge, as teacher's answer to the principal and superintendent, and more importantly, the school boards. In this district, they are forced to let the kid's go to the restroom, and therefore, this female teacher broke the rules, and got whats coming to her.

i bet she kept the lunchbox

i think you can count the times i've used the toilet in school with 2 hands. Maybe up to 4 but no more.

Well, you're wrong.


The teacher isn't in charge, as teacher's answer to the principal and superintendent, and more importantly, the school boards. In this district, they are forced to let the kid's go to the restroom, and therefore, this female teacher broke the rules, and got whats coming to her.

One, what happened isn't "what's coming to her" - students are expected to exercise a modicum of decency and respect in a classroom setting.  Whipping it out and peeing in a lunchbox in class grossly violates that understanding.  Even if she "asked for it", she has a reasonable expectation of common sense from her students.

Two, I will bet everything I own that there have been instances where a teacher in that district has forbidden a student from going to the washroom during class, and the teacher suffered NO repercussions.  (like, during a test or final, for instance).

One, what happened isn't "what's coming to her" - students are expected to exercise a modicum of decency and respect in a classroom setting.  Whipping it out and peeing in a lunchbox in class grossly violates that understanding.  Even if she "asked for it", she has a reasonable expectation of common sense from her students.

Two, I will bet everything I own that there have been instances where a teacher in that district has forbidden a student from going to the washroom during class, and the teacher suffered NO repercussions.  (like, during a test or final, for instance).

One: and she isn't? Isn't it a bit rude to make someone hold it in? Especially when doing such can lead to diseases and possibly death?

Two: Why are you defending the teacher.

One, what happened isn't "what's coming to her" - students are expected to exercise a modicum of decency and respect in a classroom setting.  Whipping it out and peeing in a lunchbox in class grossly violates that understanding.  Even if she "asked for it", she has a reasonable expectation of common sense from her students.

Two, I will bet everything I own that there have been instances where a teacher in that district has forbidden a student from going to the washroom during class, and the teacher suffered NO repercussions.

One, you can't expect a student to exercise decency when their teacher (hint:  kids are told to listen to their teachers, which this one did) tells them to PISS IN A LUNCHBOX IN FRONT OF THE CLASS.  He was given two options, and he took the only one he could (you can't always hold it).  How can you be decent in a classroom where the teacher not only disobeys the rules themselves but gives you an insanely rude option and watches while you do it?

Two, I'd say the kids don't know that that's a district rule.  If the kids knew it was the rule, they'd probably either argue with their teacher or at some point bring it up with SOMEONE out of class.  Kids rarely go to their parents and say "[teacher] wouldn't let me go to the bathroom."  However, since this was such a unique situation, news got out.  The teacher was fired for not only breaking that rule, but also...just generally being totally irresponsible about the situation!  It's like running a stop sign--most people won't get in trouble for it because no one is reporting them for it and cops aren't around to see it.  Teachers aren't called out for breaking the rule so no action is taken because the only person seeing the teacher do this are kids who don't know the teacher is breaking any rule (especially since they see teachers as a pretty high authority figure, and don't question them (they should but don't)).  If a murder somehow went by unnoticed, the fact that that person was never arrested for it doesn't mean ALL MURDERS ARE LEGAL NOW.

Man he was 13, thats the first year in high school in New Zealand and if my teacher said that to me when I was 13 I definately would of just walked out.

He's 13 in a grade normally made up of 11 years tho.

Yeah. How do some of you not get why this was WRONG?

Children are taught to listen to their teachers, so if the teacher gives them TWO CHOICES they aren't likely to say HEY THIS IS PRETTY UNREASONABLE, I'M GOING TO THE WASHROOM. Some of you are making it seem like this was a joke on the teachers part, when pretty clearly it wasn't. I mean, I'm sure she didn't think anyone would take her up the lunchbox thing, but if she hadn't proposed it wouldn't have happened. Even worse was, that when it did happen, she didn't stop it. She allowed the entire class to witness this, which would be traumatic for any child, because we're taught that this is a private action.

She was in the wrong and that's all there is to it. If she had a problem with kids 'going to the washroom' and then wasting time outside of class, that's something she could have dealt with on an individual basis with the parents and principal for the problematic students, rather than taking it out on the entire class. It was poor judgement on her part and she does deserve to be punished.

edit: actually marcus i am not sure if the quote is supposed to read like "is a high school student more likely to...?" because the way you phrased it could mean something entirely different so idk which you were trying to get across there. I said 'yeah' because I suspect you're trying to point out that a high school student is old enough to figure out a reasonable choice.

edit edit: after re-reading your post (before the one I quoted) it seems like you think this kid was dumb for obeying the authority figure who is supposed to teach them the right thing to do. while at 13 you should be pretty capable of thinking on your own, the fact that he's 13 in sixth grade kind of leads me to believe he's probably not a NORMAL (i am saying he was likely slow) 13 year old, which is why he was the one who ended up doing it.

i never said she wasn't in the wrong i just think it's funny as shit

i mean this is a story about a kid calling his teacher's bluff by pissing in her lunch box how is that not hilarious???

man if he is 13 i am almost certain he did it to troll the goddamn teacher.

i dont think he really did it because he didnt have another alternative.

We were never allowed to go to the bathroom during tests, so applying that rule is circumstantial at best.

The teacher is in charge.  If she decides "No, you can't do <such and such> right now", then that's it.  In this particular instance, the teacher handled her authority really really poorly, but what "she's supposed to do" and what circumstance dictates sometimes conflict and she has to make a judgement call.  It's within her authority to do so, imho.

glad to know that your school district is all about taking away civil rights

man if he is 13 i am almost certain he did it to troll the goddamn teacher.

i dont think he really did it because he didnt have another alternative.

I dunno man, if you're 13 and in 6th grade you're most likely not too bright anyways/possibly in SpecEd.

Peeing when and where I want is a civil right?  What about disobeying the teacher?  Is that my right?  Is that right?

I am defending the teacher because the kid is retarded.  And the article paints the kid as some halpless victimized kid.  I call bullshit.  It's like if I offer you $10,000 or an elephant...yeah, the elephant offer wasn't serious.  Seriously, the kid knows that peeing in a lunchbox is wrong.  He did something wrong.  How can anyone not see that?

Peeing when and where I want is a civil right?  What about disobeying the teacher?  Is that my right?  Is that right?

I am defending the teacher because the kid is retarded.  And the article paints the kid as some halpless victimized kid.  I call bullshit.  It's like if I offer you $10,000 or an elephant...yeah, the elephant offer wasn't serious.  Seriously, the kid knows that peeing in a lunchbox is wrong.  He did something wrong.  How can anyone not see that?

ffffffff The kid either had to do that or pee his fucking pants, do you not see why he would pee in the lunchbox??  And in this case, he's obeying the teacher who isn't obeying the rules of the district.  HOW IS THIS WRONG.

peeing in the lunchbox was obviously a joke answer everyone knows what she meant was pee your pants????

Peeing when and where I want is a civil right?  What about disobeying the teacher?  Is that my right?  Is that right?

I am defending the teacher because the kid is retarded.  And the article paints the kid as some halpless victimized kid.  I call bullshit.  It's like if I offer you $10,000 or an elephant...yeah, the elephant offer wasn't serious.  Seriously, the kid knows that peeing in a lunchbox is wrong.  He did something wrong.  How can anyone not see that?

The teach should have let the kid go to the damn bathroom. I mean, what's the issue here? I don't see where he disobeyed her.